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    Although this newsletter tends toward the sensational, its author raises some interesting questions in this edition:

    http://market-ticker.denninger.net/a...e-Warning.html

    Some interesting sections:

    Just wait until you see what will come next.

    If you're playing "Buffett", following his claim (note: there is no penalty for lying on national television about what you're doing in your personal account) that he's buying here, there is a little ugly fact you need to be aware of.

    That fact is treasury issuance.

    See, to fund all this crap that Congress, Paulson and Bernanke have in the pipe (you know, the TARP, the newly-minted SIV that Ben announced this morning to buy commercial paper, etc) the treasury issue requirements will be north of three trillion dollars in this fiscal year.

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    See, Treasury has only two options here:
    1. If they issue all in the short end of the curve (as they're doing now) they flatten the banks, as the entire point of a bank is to borrow in the short-term market and lend in the long term. When you compress the yield curve you destroy their capacity to make money off their ordinary business model.
    2. If they issue in the long end of the curve (e.g. 10s and 30s) then the long end will skyrocket in yield. Anyone remember 18% mortgages? They could reappear. This, of course, will destroy what's left of the housing and consumer credit markets.
    Now sure, The Fed can start printing money like mad and buy all these Ts, making their balance sheet expand like a balloon - or a bubble. And Bernanke, yesterday in his testimony, claimed that this didn't constitute "printing money" or "inflating the money supply."

    He may be technically correct but in practice he's lying through his teeth, and unfortunately Congress is both too uninformed to call him on it and lacks the balls to stop him (which they can do through the threat of, if not actual, legislation.)

    His production of money in exchange for Treasuries is nothing more than a sham sterilization action. He thinks this will go unnoticed by the markets, because he's swapping a dollar for an "illiquid" asset.

    The problem is that this is only monetarily neutral if the asset is actually worth a dollar. If it is in fact worth 50 cents then he printed the other 50 cents, and devalued every other dollar in the world by the same amount.
    I have wondered how we're going to pay for all this money that we're spraying on the financial system. Anyone see other feasible ways to fund it?

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    Re: Further turmoil in the bond markets?

    wow, this article seems to make a lot of sense (freaky man).

    Bernanke is doing what Paulson tried and failed at in the "free" (coerced by arm-twisting by Paulson) market through executive fiat, and he is printing money to fund it. Exactly how much money he is printing (as opposed to lending) depends on the precise amount of overpayment that is being induced through these so-called "loans", but that it is happening is not open to question.



    Why has this become necessary?

    Ben and Hank produced a dislocation in this section of the marketplace by favoring other debt instruments with federal guarantees, thereby forcing money out of these instruments.



    Sort of a "reverse Gresham's law." Why lend to a risky borrower when you can lend to a government guaranteed one?




    This in turn created major problems for money market funds who buy this paper as a routine matter of course in that when they needed to redeem deposits they suddenly found no buyers for the securities, as those people had fled to other instruments that Ben had guaranteed payment on!

    Ah! That explains yesterday's conundrum. Why was the government "injecting" 340 billion clams into the money market accounts when the next article talked about "record inflows" into MM accounts????




    As each new facility is rolled out by Ben and Hank a new area of debt becomes backstopped by the government in some fashion, thereby forcing money out of other instruments and causing those instruments to become distressed!
    We are rapidly reaching the point where only The Fed and Treasury are providing any lending at all!

    Wow! Now I get it. Scary thought. This starts to make perfect sense. The government is making almost all the mortgage loans. Now they are buying the ABCP...next CP...wow. Blows me away.



    This is insanely dangerous to economic and monetary stability; all market discipline has been removed and now we're seeing in the credit markets that which began in the equity markets with Bear Stearns.
    Ben and Hank are going to produce the bond market dislocation that I have been warning about since earlier this year if he is not stopped immediately.

    10 year Ts are starting to look dicey...considering the "flight to quality" that has been going on their yields are RISING.




    The ugly is that there was a small inversion in LIBOR a week or so ago. That's really bad, as LIBOR normally never inverts. As Ben has played his games of late the inversion disappeared from LIBOR but moved over into the intermediate area of the US Treasury Curve, where it is far more dangerous.



    I didn't think the Fed had any control over the intermediate part of the curve...but I suppose if they choose to, and the market doesn't react, they can buy/sell into that part of the curve and therefore influence it...but how long will it be, before there is a REACTION and intermediate/long bonds SKYROCKET?

    This is the beginning of the flight into tangibles, methinks...the reason to husband your gold.



    Nonsense; as I showed yesterday the problem is that additional debt issue no longer renders much (if any) of a positive return on GDP - no matter who issues the debt - public or private.


    The ugly little secret in that graph, if you study it a bit more, is what happens when interest rates spike higher. Go back and look specifically at the period surrounding 1980, when we had sky-high inflation. Notice that we didn't get back to trendline until bond rates came down - way down - as we started having supply absorbed by Japan, China and Saudi Arabia in the 1990s and into this decade.


    There is a very real risk that this Treasury Issue could force GDP return on new debt below zero. If that happens then the stability of the monetary system disappears immediately and you will see instantaneous and very large fails in the Treasury marketplace.




    Wow. I don't really understand "force GDP return on new debt below zero." Can you explain, somebody smarter than me??



    The consequence of this event would be catastrophic. Ben would have only two choices - print raw money, which would immediately collapse the Treasury marketplace, or get Treasury and Congress to immediately reduce issue and spending to sustainable levels.
    What would "sustainable levels" be? Given that issue is running $3 trillion year-on-year, this could result in an immediate and forced cut in all federal spending by fifty percent or more as the TARP and other program money will have been spent and cannot be recalled.
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    Oh, and having done that, the long end of the curve would probably still spike to 10%, which means 13-14% mortgage rates. Cut the value of every house in America in half - again - from here.


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    Everyone is screaming about "increasing credit growth" - including Nouriel Roubini this morning on CNBC. What Nouriel and the rest who are calling for this sort of "tonic" are missing is that you can't increase credit growth into the market until the existing bad debt has been defaulted as the GDP contribution from additional debt load is dangerously close to going negative, and as it approaches zero you get no economic benefit from doing so.



    I don't get this...

    We may be literally days away from a second, far more serious credit and equity market dislocation, this time originating outside the United States.

    Wow.




    We cannot prevent this second dislocation from occurring but it is
    absolutely essential that the government "ring fence" Treasury debt before it occurs.

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      Re: Further turmoil in the bond markets?

      Originally posted by grapejelly View Post
      Wow. I don't really understand "force GDP return on new debt below zero." Can you explain, somebody smarter than me??

      Me too, I'd love an unpacking of this scenario and why Denninger is apoplectic over the possibility of it happening.

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