Cash or credit?
The current explosion in liquidity takes the form of credit [e.g bonds, mbs, abs, cdos, etc] instead of cash. Weimar was characterized by cash inflation, so consumption items soared in nominal value. I believe that the 1970’s inflation in the U.S. was characterized by a growth in the “M”s, cash and almost cash holdings. And that period, too, was characterized by sharp increases in the nominal cost of consumption items, as well as wages, thus producing the famed “wage-cost spiral.”
It is easy to imagine how a credit fueled inflation could feed into the housing market – we’ve just lived through it. But it is harder for me to imagine how an explosion of credit feeds into the economy once housing starts to collapse.
Doug Noland, at the Credit Bubble Bulletin, makes a suggestion:
But is this what is indeed happening?
He goes on:
During the housing boom, expanding credit fed into the general economy via consumers withdrawing cash from their nominally rising home equity. How do the more recent, more exotic expressions of credit excess feed into the general economy? Or do they?
I suppose that there is always trickle down from the multi-million dollar bonuses of Goldman partners and the outsized earnings of hedge fund managers. But it’s hard to see this supporting the economy. I fail to see how a still more rapidly expanding financial economy is going to monetize Joe Sixpack.
So questions:
1: where does the liquidity flow? Where’s the next bubble? Any nominations?
2a: what happens if the increase in credit is essentially confined to the financial sphere, and doesn’t make it to the real economy [except for demand for gulfstream jets and hamptons real estate]? Is this even possible?
2b: Will the housing crunch in progress cause the real economy to contract even while credit instuments proliferate? I.e. can we have real economy deflation combined with financial economy inflation?
2c: does the fed then monetize all the paper so that we get closer to the 70’s or Weimar model? Alternatives?
The current explosion in liquidity takes the form of credit [e.g bonds, mbs, abs, cdos, etc] instead of cash. Weimar was characterized by cash inflation, so consumption items soared in nominal value. I believe that the 1970’s inflation in the U.S. was characterized by a growth in the “M”s, cash and almost cash holdings. And that period, too, was characterized by sharp increases in the nominal cost of consumption items, as well as wages, thus producing the famed “wage-cost spiral.”
It is easy to imagine how a credit fueled inflation could feed into the housing market – we’ve just lived through it. But it is harder for me to imagine how an explosion of credit feeds into the economy once housing starts to collapse.
Doug Noland, at the Credit Bubble Bulletin, makes a suggestion:
Originally posted by doug noland
He goes on:
Originally posted by doug noland
I suppose that there is always trickle down from the multi-million dollar bonuses of Goldman partners and the outsized earnings of hedge fund managers. But it’s hard to see this supporting the economy. I fail to see how a still more rapidly expanding financial economy is going to monetize Joe Sixpack.
So questions:
1: where does the liquidity flow? Where’s the next bubble? Any nominations?
2a: what happens if the increase in credit is essentially confined to the financial sphere, and doesn’t make it to the real economy [except for demand for gulfstream jets and hamptons real estate]? Is this even possible?
2b: Will the housing crunch in progress cause the real economy to contract even while credit instuments proliferate? I.e. can we have real economy deflation combined with financial economy inflation?
2c: does the fed then monetize all the paper so that we get closer to the 70’s or Weimar model? Alternatives?