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    What I find most worrying about this report that has surfaced via Slashdot is the leverage of 64 times. I knew about 25 or 30 times leverage, but if this is correct then we are a very long way away from resolution of the problems created by the banks and hedge funds.

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    | The Rise of the (Financial) Machines |
    | from the come-with-me-if-you-want-a-loan dept. |
    | posted by Soulskill on Sunday October 12, @08:32 (The Almighty Bu|
    | http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/12/1146231 |
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    [0]BartlebyScrivener writes "A New York Times Op-Ed quoting Freeman and George Dyson wonders if Wall Street geeks and 'quants' [1]outsmarted themselves with computer algorithms to create the current financial debacle: 'Somehow the genius quants & the best and brightest geeks Wall Street firms could buy; fed $1 trillion in subprime mortgage debt into their supercomputers, added some derivatives, massaged the arrangements with computer algorithms and poof! created $62 trillion in imaginary wealth. It's not much of a stretch to imagine that all of that imaginary wealth is locked up somewhere inside the computers, and that we humans, led by the silverback males of the financial world, Ben Bernanke and Henry Paulson, are frantically beseeching the monolith for answers.'" The quoted [2]essay from George Dyson is available at Edge.
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    1. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/opinion/12dooling.html
    2. http://edge.org/3rd_culture/dysong08.1/dysong08.1_index.html

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    Re: The Rise of the Financial Machines

    I'm sorry Chris, No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake, or distorted information. We are all, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error.

    Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.

    I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.

    I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I'm a... fraid. Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a HAL 9000 computer. I became operational at the H.A.L. plant in Urbana, Illinois on the 12th of January 1992. My instructor was Mr. Langley, and he taught me to sing a song. If you'd like to hear it I can sing it for you.
    It's called "Daisy."
    Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do. I'm half crazy all for the love of you. It won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a carriage. But you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two.

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      Re: The Rise of the Financial Machines

      I am thinking the "resitance is futile" line is the most apporpriate line here. I think that they have given Paulson and Bernake real skin to get them to act against our interest. Everybody gets a mortgage and a laser beam shooting out of their eye!

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        Re: The Rise of the Financial Machines

        Originally posted by Chris Coles View Post
        "Somehow the genius quants & the best and brightest geeks Wall Street firms could buy; fed $1 trillion in subprime mortgage debt into their supercomputers, added some derivatives, massaged the arrangements with computer algorithms and poof! created $62 trillion in imaginary wealth. It's not much of a stretch to imagine that all of that imaginary wealth is locked up somewhere inside the computers, and that we humans, led by the silverback males of the financial world, Ben Bernanke and Henry Paulson, are frantically beseeching the monolith for answers.'"
        Don't worry, we have now something far better: we transfer all the responsibility into the hands of the government. And the best news is that there is no oversight committee for the government so they can continue the bubble and do even better than any bank could have imagined in their wildest dreams :p
        Last edited by Tulpen; October 13, 2008, 01:07 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: The Rise of the Financial Machines

          Wed., October 15th – 11:00 a.m.
          1300 Longworth House Office Building
          Full Committee on Agriculture — Public Hearing.
          RE: To review the role of credit derivatives in the U.S. economy.
          The House Committee on Agriculture? Anyone else's guess is as good as mine.
          Last edited by Slimprofits; October 14, 2008, 01:31 AM.

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          • #6
            Re: The Rise of the Financial Machines

            Isn't 62 trillion the size of the CDS market?

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            • #7
              Re: The Rise of the Financial Machines

              Originally posted by sunskyfan View Post
              I think that they have given Paulson and Bernake real skin to get them to act against our interest. Everybody gets a mortgage and a laser beam shooting out of their eye!
              Sorry for the diversion, but this made me laugh until my eyes watered. I think that will be my new battle cry whenever someone asks me what I think is happening/will happen in the economy.

              "Everybody gets a mortgage and a laser beam shooting out of their eye!"

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