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    LINK:
    http://www.chrismartenson.com/files/...%2010-3-08.pdf

    It’s Here And It’s Now

    ChrisMartenson.com © 2006 - 2008 Page 1

    Everything that I have been writing about, everything
    that I have been lecturing about, and everything
    that I made the Crash Course about is now in motion.
    It is here, and it is happening right now.
    The purpose of this Martenson Report is to nudge you
    further and further toward taking any remaining actions
    that can help shield you from what is coming. I want
    you to understand that my advice and my voice are just
    one of many, and that your job is to listen to everything
    and make up your own mind.
    Between now and “then,” with “then” being up to 10
    years from now, most of the wealth of all overly-
    indebted nations will be destroyed.
    The debt-based fiat money system of our past is
    drawing to a close. The extent to which your money is
    locked within that system is the extent to which you risk
    losing it all. Not (necessarily) because it will be stolen
    with malicious intent by your leaders, but rather by
    their benign ignorance.
    There are simply too many claims on a future that is too
    small. Those claims - debts and money - have to be
    reduced. Whether that is accomplished by a process of
    inflation or by one of deflation is the only question left
    to resolve.
    MEA CULPA
    So far, my advice has been spotty. Certainly my advice
    to steer clear of stocks was right, as was my advice to
    avoid real estate. But I was very much expecting an
    inflationary destructive process, and so far the data tells
    us that deflation is the dominant mechanism. So, low
    marks on that one.
    By ‘deflation,’ I mean that money is being destroyed
    faster than it is being created. The Fed has certainly
    been shoveling new money into the system at historic,
    never-before-seen rates. It has ‘expanded its balance
    sheet,’ meaning it is taking in more and more debt and
    putting out more and more money. In a world of
    deflation, money gains value against assets and goods –
    the opposite of inflation. During deflation, you want to
    hold cash.
    HERE’S THE DATA
    • Stocks – The S&P 500 is down 30% from its high
    hit almost exactly one year ago.
    • Bonds – US Treasury bonds are at all-time lows.
    Recently, the 3-month bond went so low in
    yield that you would have lost money, after the
    commission was taken, for the privilege of
    holding one.
    • The Dollar – The dollar is gaining value rapidly
    against other currencies, a sure sign of stress
    and a strong indicator that deflation is
    underway. A rising dollar means that dollars
    are becoming worth more, not less, and this
    says “deflation.”
    • Gold/Silver – These are falling in price almost
    daily, which is a sure sign of deflation.
    • Commodities – Crashing is the right word.
    Down 30% since just July - there seems to be no
    bottom here.
    • Credit markets – Among the TED spread (and
    other measures of interbank lending), the
    Corporate Paper market, and the asset-back
    paper markets, all are pointing to a seizure in
    the credit machinery that is without parallel.
    • Recession data – Everything from automobile
    sales, to personal bankruptcies, to tax revenues
    are all indicating that one of the sharpest
    recessions in recent history is underway.
    Every single one of the signs above is consistent with
    deflation, not inflation.
    WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO YOU?
    Okay, if a major deflationary impulse rockets through
    our system, the amount of institutional destruction we
    have seen will accelerate. Major banks will fail outright,
    state and local governments will go bankrupt, pensions
    will vanish, jobs will evaporate like water on red-hot
    steel, imports will plummet, and China will no longer
    buy our debt because they won’t have any extra money.
    At the end of this, the US government will have to pare
    back its expenditures by 50% or more.
    E
    It’s Here And It’s Now

    ChrisMartenson.com © 2006 - 2008 Page 2

    Because, as you know, our entire economic system is
    built upon the exponential expansion of
    money/credit/debt, and it simply does not operate well
    in reverse.
    It’s that simple. No expansion = collapse.
    And this is why I am quite stunned that more aggressive
    measures have not been taken to put us on the
    inflationary path. I’m talking about things like $10,000
    checks to every American, directly from the Federal
    Reserve. I’m talking about an immediate doubling, and
    then tripling, of the Federal Reserve balance sheet. I
    am talking about trillions of dollars of new money being
    put into play be the Fed.
    Because that’s what this is going to take.
    The “$700 billion” bailout bill is too little, too late, and
    directed at the wrong spots. And it fails because it
    punishes the wrong parties. My solution would have
    been modeled after Sweden’s bank bailout in 1992 –
    give the banks loans in exchange for bank stock. That is,
    recapitalize the banks, but make them pay. And I would
    have gone one step further and ousted the
    management at each bank. After all, they have already
    proven themselves to be incapable of properly
    assessing risk and running a business. Next!
    Given that banks are draconian (Darwinian?) in their
    approach to their customers’ missteps, it only seems
    fair that they should be treated similarly in response to
    their own foibles. One set of rules for the well-
    connected and another set for the “little people” equals
    a recipe for social unrest. “Let them eat cake!” has
    already proven itself to be a busted PR model, so I am
    deeply puzzled as to why Congress felt obliged to give it
    another whirl.
    HERE ARE MY RECOMMENDATIONS
    I remain convinced that “failure is not an option,” and
    that the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department
    will do everything in their power to keep this whole
    thing expanding. I trust that they will return us to the
    inflationary path as soon as possible.
    But if they don’t…
    You need to be prepared for a long, multi-year slide into
    the worst economic conditions of the last five
    generations. Few remain who have any direct
    knowledge of exactly what a true deflationary
    depression really means. Fortunately, we can still learn
    the lessons of the past if we choose.
    1. SAVE YOUR MONEY! Pare all expenses, save as
    much as you can, and keep your job.
    2. DON’T HOLD DEBT Get out of debt as fast as
    possible, and don’t take on any new debt. In a
    deflation, debt is a stone-cold killer. Ask
    anybody who went through the Great
    Depression.
    3. GET OUT OF STOCKS AND INTO CASH Do not hold
    stocks. None of them are safe in a deflationary
    period. Right now, stocks are still valued with
    price-earnings ratios of 15 or more (on
    average). At the bottom of a
    depression/deflation, we might expect that
    number to go to somewhere between 7 and 10.
    This means that I would expect as much as
    another 50% decline in stocks. Or 5,500 on the
    Dow, or 500 on the S&P.
    4. DO NOT HOLD LOWER GRADE BONDS This includes
    municipal bonds and corporate issues. Only
    Treasury bonds would be safe here.
    5. BE PREPARED FOR SHORTAGES One thing that
    would happen to an impoverished US would be
    the loss of imports. What do we import that’s
    essential or desired? Heck, what don’t we
    import that’s essential or desired? Take a look
    around your current life and ask yourself,
    “What’s pretty cheap right now that I really like
    to have?”…and if it’s imported, feel free to
    stock up, as long as it does not materially
    impact your savings and debt goals from
    numbers 1 & 2, above.
    WHAT TO WATCH OUT FOR
    I am going to fall out of my chair if it turns out that a
    serious attempt is not made to re-expand this whole
    mess.
    It’s Here And It’s Now

    ChrisMartenson.com © 2006 - 2008 Page 3

    The Fed is walking an incredibly fine knife-edge, here.
    On the one side is a deflationary failure, and on the
    other side is the inflationary destruction of their only
    product, the dollar. This is the scariest balancing act for
    any central banker, and I am very glad to not be in Mr.
    Bernanke’s shoes.
    Two things could rather suddenly upset the apple cart
    here and make me rather dramatically change my
    advice above.
    1. THE DOLLAR DECLINES. If the dollar suddenly
    begins a rapid descent, especially if
    accompanied by a spike in interest rates, I will
    send out an Alert to you that will re-direct the
    above advice in a significant way.
    2. THE FED BEGINS TO DIRECTLY MONETIZE DEBT. We
    are very close to this, lacking only the official
    pronouncement that it has started. For some
    reason, probably related to the fact that they
    are in as much trouble as the US, the foreign
    central banks have allowed the current Fed
    programs of exchanging good money for bad
    assets to operate without a single peep of
    protest. Most of these programs are still
    referred to as “temporary,” meaning that the
    bad assets are supposed to go back to the
    originating banks at some point. But when it is
    openly admitted that they are being “held to
    maturity,” then this is the death knell for the
    dollar. Inflation is on the way.
    WHY I STILL RECOMMEND GOLD (& SILVER)
    Whether the Fed errs on the side of deflation or
    inflation, gold makes sense to me.
    The primary reason is simply that it represents a liquid,
    “money-like” asset that you can hold and that sits
    outside of the banking system. In a deflationary
    collapse, even as banks are folding up like cheap card
    tables during a tornado, you won’t know which banks to
    trust and which to fear. Nobody will. In this scenario,
    holding cash is a good option, but I think gold offers one
    other advantage. How we value dollars internally in this
    country during such an event may be very different
    from the way dollars are perceived and/or valued
    outside of our country.
    In Asia, India, and Europe, gold is perceived as “money”
    to a much higher degree than it is in the US. In a time of
    crisis, when nobody knows which institutions are “good
    for their liabilities” and which are not, gold represents a
    means of sidestepping that discussion altogether. It is
    not too much to suggest that for this reason, the dollar,
    representing the liability of the Federal Reserve, may
    someday be less highly-valued outside of our borders,
    where trillions of such liabilities already lie, than gold.
    So I choose to hold gold in the face of a potential
    deflationary collapse because I think that it represents a
    more compelling source of value outside of the USA (my
    country) than do Federal Reserve Notes (the dollar).
    During a deflationary collapse, all of the exigent and
    outstanding liabilities of the US may suddenly be
    “redeemed,” meaning that foreigners will seek ways to
    convert their (potentially) meaningless dollar balances
    into something more tangible. Certainly, they could buy
    assets inside the US, such as companies and real estate,
    but what are their options if the goal is to “bring that
    money home?”
    Those options are somewhat limited, and I see gold as
    one of them. Exchanging dollars for a native currency
    will only work for a relatively small number of the
    outstanding dollar holdings. Then what?
    And, of course, I hold gold because of the possibility
    that the Fed might inadvertently veer off into the
    hyperinflationary ditch. Historically, this has a very high
    chance of occurring.
    Either way, inflation or deflation, I can make the case
    for gold.
    But right now? The data says that you need to begin
    preparing for a nasty deflationary crunch.
    Your faithful information scout,
    Chris Martenson

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    Re: From Chris Martenson: Deflation

    Originally posted by Digidiver View Post
    LINK:
    http://www.chrismartenson.com/files/...%2010-3-08.pdf

    It’s Here And It’s Now

    ChrisMartenson.com © 2006 - 2008
    Spends the whole article trying to build a case for deflation and then unwinds it all right at the end:
    "...THE FED BEGINS TO DIRECTLY MONETIZE DEBT. We
    are very close to this, lacking only the official
    pronouncement that it has started. For some
    reason, probably related to the fact that they
    are in as much trouble as the US, the foreign
    central banks have allowed the current Fed
    programs of exchanging good money for bad
    assets to operate without a single peep of
    protest. Most of these programs are still
    referred to as “temporary,” meaning that the
    bad assets are supposed to go back to the
    originating banks at some point. But when it is
    openly admitted that they are being “held to
    maturity,” then this is the death knell for the
    dollar. Inflation is on the way..."

    Is there anybody here who ever believed that these were "temporary" loans? That there was any possible way that the crippled up, insolvent banks would ever take this garbage back on to their own balance sheets? Hell, they couldn't put much of this toxic waste on their own balance sheets back when they originated it; back when everyone thought these banks were going concerns...hence the need for SIVS and other creative off balance sheet accounting. Martenson has it right when he says..."Inflation is on the way".
    "...And, of course, I hold gold because of the possibility
    that the Fed might inadvertently veer off into the
    hyperinflationary ditch. Historically, this has a very high
    chance of occurring..."

    I didn't get the impression that Martenson has convinced even himself that a deflationary outcome is very likely...:p
    Last edited by GRG55; October 04, 2008, 08:55 AM.

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      Re: From Chris Martenson: Deflation

      See also Finster's latest missive

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        Re: From Chris Martenson: Deflation

        By ‘deflation,’ I mean that money is being destroyed faster than it is being created. The Fed has certainly been shoveling new money into the system at historic, never-before-seen rates. It has ‘expanded its balance
        sheet,’ meaning it is taking in more and more debt and putting out more and more money. In a world of deflation, money gains value against assets and goods – the opposite of inflation. During deflation, you want to
        hold cash.
        We have a lot of respect for Chris and have featured his articles here. However, like most commentators his model does not distinguish between asset price deflation and commodity/wage price deflation (differential effects of declining credit and demand on asset prices within the FIRE Economy versus impact of declining credit available for expenditures in the production/consumption economy), credit creation versus money creation (money as created in the endogenous credit markets versus by government fiat), or the denominator in the equation of price levels (the purchasing power of money, which declines when the supply of money exceeds demand), or the impact of falling goods supply relative to the money supply.

        They see asset prices and wages falling and say, "Ah ha! Deflation." iTulipers, schooled in Ka-Poom Theory of disinflations and inflations that attend asset price inflations and deflations within the FIRE Economy but impact the P/C Economy, and the differential impact of the government response, are prepared for this eventuality. We do not mistake disinflationary "Ka" effects with deflation; "Ka" disinflation is produced the acute rush to liquidity phase of the asset deflation crises. Disinflation does not portend a self-reinforcing deflationary cycle. As we have explained for ten years, wages and other prices set within the domestic P/C Economy economy can decline rapidly, however. Prices set by imports, which prices are a function of the exchange rate value of the dollar, will rise in dollars and foreign demand for dollars declines.

        The image in the minds of those who expect deflation is the Great Depression. The Great Depression was produced by falling consumer demand producing massive over-capacity combined with rising demand for money that was not met by government due to the constraint of the gold standard, and a slow stimulus response. Nations that abandoned the gold standard quickly in 1930 did not suffer deflation as the US did in the 1930s. In the end the US dropped the gold standard in 1933 and inflated, and even after the US economy and banking system had collapsed inflation in excess of 30% was induced in 1934.

        Under our current system, the supply of goods will be withdrawn as fast as demand as producers cut back, so no condition of massive industrial over-capacity will result, at least not in the US. The government will continue to meet the demand for money, as can readily be seen by looking at the success the Fed has achieved at targeting money aggregates, as we forecast they would in Zero Bound Diaries: Is Bernanke Volcker's Mirror Image? (Feb 2008) when we predicted that when the Fed Funds rate reached 2% that the Fed was going to stop targeting the price of money, interest rates, and start to target the quantity of money instead.



        The greatest challenge for the US is that demand for its currency is a function of demand for sales of dollar denominated financial assets, mostly US treasury and agency debt. Thus demand and the value of the dollar is not under US control. The US relies on foreign official and private holdings to maintain low interest rates and inflation.

        The current disinflationary "Ka" effects that we forecast that are produced by a rush to liquidity in the acute rush to cash phase of the financial crisis is disinflation, and should not to be confused with deflation unless you are intent on losing all of your money. It is a grave error to look at short term interest rates and the rising dollar and conclude that the US is running or is about to run a negative rate of inflation and enter a self-reinforcing deflationary cycle - a liquidity trap - that drives down the nominal prices of goods and wages in the economy and appreciates the dollar.
        Last edited by FRED; October 04, 2008, 02:26 PM.
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          Re: From Chris Martenson: Deflation

          As pointed out by GRG above, I think to some extent, Chris Martenson does acknowledge that what is suggested by EJs theory may yet happen

          Two things could rather suddenly upset the apple cart here and make me rather dramatically change my advice above.

          1. THE DOLLAR DECLINES. If the dollar suddenly begins a rapid descent, especially if accompanied by a spike in interest rates, I will send out an Alert to you that will re-direct the above advice in a significant way.

          2. THE FED BEGINS TO DIRECTLY MONETIZE DEBT. We are very close to this, lacking only the official pronouncement that it has started. For some reason, probably related to the fact that they are in as much trouble as the US, the foreign central banks have allowed the current Fed programs of exchanging good money for bad assets to operate without a single peep of protest. Most of these programs are still referred to as “temporary,” meaning that the bad assets are supposed to go back to the originating banks at some point. But when it is openly admitted that they are being “held to maturity,” then this is the death knell for the dollar. Inflation is on the way.

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            Re: From Chris Martenson: Deflation

            watch gold, not the USD. The USD may shoot up because there is after all a HUGE demand for USDs. But gold will tell us what it sees in advance. It is the barometer for concerns today about inflation tomorrow. Gold hasn't dropped that much (yet?)...what does that tell you??

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              Re: From Chris Martenson: Deflation

              Originally posted by grapejelly View Post
              watch gold, not the USD. The USD may shoot up because there is after all a HUGE demand for USDs. But gold will tell us what it sees in advance. It is the barometer for concerns today about inflation tomorrow. Gold hasn't dropped that much (yet?)...what does that tell you??
              It tells me that the people that own gold hold it with less leverage in general than the people that hold every other damn asset on the face of the earth...:p

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                Re: From Chris Martenson: Deflation

                Originally posted by grg55
                Is there anybody here who ever believed that these were "temporary" loans? That there was any possible way that the crippled up, insolvent banks would ever take this garbage back on to their own balance sheets?
                me. i believe they are temporary but long term. i think that as pieces of paper mature they will be returned to their origin [assuming, unlike -say- lehman, it still exists] to be written down. the idea is to extend the time to write off. it's the functional equivalent of doing away with mark to market accounting. in the meantime, the fed hopes, the banks can reliquify and reestablish their capital base. this is what happened during the latin american debt crisis. the u.s. banks would have all gone out of business if forced to take the hits immediately. instead they were allowed to play on as if they were solvent, until they were indeed solvent.

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                  Re: From Chris Martenson: Deflation

                  Originally posted by jk View Post
                  me. i believe they are temporary but long term. i think that as pieces of paper mature they will be returned to their origin [assuming, unlike -say- lehman, it still exists] to be written down. the idea is to extend the time to write off. it's the functional equivalent of doing away with mark to market accounting. in the meantime, the fed hopes, the banks can reliquify and reestablish their capital base. this is what happened during the latin american debt crisis. the u.s. banks would have all gone out of business if forced to take the hits immediately. instead they were allowed to play on as if they were solvent, until they were indeed solvent.

                  I would love to think the same but two things give pause:
                  1. The stuff the banks kept weren't the AAA rated tranches, but the other end of the CDO spectrum; the stuff they couldn't sell, even when others [in German Landesbanks, Norwegian communities and the Aussie outback] were clamouring for the stuff.
                  2. Even when they were assumed to be "solvent" the banks couldn't tolerate having this stuff directly on their balance sheets, hence the SIVS and other creative accounting; how solvent do they have to become in the future to reclaim this toxic waste? Can they ever get there? Do we instead see the regulators create some sort of special accounting rules to get this stuff off the Fed's balance sheet and back into the hands of what is left of the financial system? Anything could happen, imo.

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                    Re: From Chris Martenson: Deflation

                    Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                    I would love to think the same but two things give pause:
                    1. The stuff the banks kept weren't the AAA rated tranches, but the other end of the CDO spectrum; the stuff they couldn't sell, even when others [in German Landesbanks, Norwegian communities and the Aussie outback] were clamouring for the stuff.
                    2. Even when they were assumed to be "solvent" the banks couldn't tolerate having this stuff directly on their balance sheets, hence the SIVS and other creative accounting; how solvent do they have to become in the future to reclaim this toxic waste? Can they ever get there? Do we instead see the regulators create some sort of special accounting rules to get this stuff off the Fed's balance sheet and back into the hands of what is left of the financial system? Anything could happen, imo.
                    my impression is that the fed, gradually lowering its standards in steps from accepting only treasuries to then allow gse and then "aaa" paper, got the best of the worst, not the worst of worst. the latter is to go through the new $700b treasury laundromat.

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                    • #11
                      Re: From Chris Martenson: Deflation

                      "The greatest challenge for the US is that demand for its currency is a function of demand for sales of dollar denominated financial assets, mostly US treasury and agency debt. Thus demand and the value of the dollar is not under US control. The US relies on foreign official and private holdings to maintain low interest rates and inflation."

                      Fred, two questions on the above.

                      Isn't the reserve currency status of the dollar a key ingredient in the demand for dollars, in particular the pricing of global strategic materials, lead by oil, being priced in dollars?

                      and

                      is not the putting into play of the US military card essential to propping up that dollar pricing? To that extent, does not the US have a degree of control in global acceptance, albeit at the point of a gun, of dollar dominance?

                      (Not to overstate the holdup aspect, I do feel the US role as world's policeman of the non-first world still works for the Euros and others, but that's a geopolitical question)

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                        Re: From Chris Martenson: Deflation

                        Originally posted by don View Post
                        "The greatest challenge for the US is that demand for its currency is a function of demand for sales of dollar denominated financial assets, mostly US treasury and agency debt. Thus demand and the value of the dollar is not under US control. The US relies on foreign official and private holdings to maintain low interest rates and inflation."

                        Fred, two questions on the above.

                        Isn't the reserve currency status of the dollar a key ingredient in the demand for dollars, in particular the pricing of global strategic materials, lead by oil, being priced in dollars?

                        and

                        is not the putting into play of the US military card essential to propping up that dollar pricing? To that extent, does not the US have a degree of control in global acceptance, albeit at the point of a gun, of dollar dominance?

                        (Not to overstate the holdup aspect, I do feel the US role as world's policeman of the non-first world still works for the Euros and others, but that's a geopolitical question)
                        i would add that the greatest "demand" for the u.s. dollar is mercantile, supporting employment and development in exporting nations, with the "demand" for dollar denominated paper a secondary effect only.

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                          Re: From Chris Martenson: Deflation

                          Originally posted by jk View Post
                          my impression is that the fed, gradually lowering its standards in steps from accepting only treasuries to then allow gse and then "aaa" paper, got the best of the worst, not the worst of worst. the latter is to go through the new $700b treasury laundromat.
                          My guess is when they opened the window to the investment banks they immediately got the worst of the worst, while the "best" was hoarded pending an attempted sale of these assets [e.g. Merrill]

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                            Re: From Chris Martenson: Deflation

                            Originally posted by jk View Post
                            i would add that the greatest "demand" for the u.s. dollar is mercantile, supporting employment and development in exporting nations, with the "demand" for dollar denominated paper a secondary effect only.
                            To sharpen the point I was trying to make, has the US built the most extensive military bases in the world in Iraq because:

                            WMD

                            To spread democracy in the ME

                            To park an Abrams at the Wellhead, ensuring the dollar's reserve status.

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                              Re: From Chris Martenson: Deflation

                              Originally posted by don View Post
                              To sharpen the point I was trying to make, has the US built the most extensive military bases in the world in Iraq because:

                              WMD

                              To spread democracy in the ME

                              To park an Abrams at the Wellhead, ensuring the dollar's reserve status.
                              I don't think the individuals who pushed for our invasion of Iraq are either that smart or that foresighted.

                              Declaring them strategic geniuses ex post facto is a bit generous.

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