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    Kucinich says not enough votes for bailout 09/28/08 03:31 PM [ET]

    A prominent liberal Democratic lawmaker said Sunday there are not enough votes to pass the bailout package as it stands now.

    “I will tell you right now I don’t know if they have votes,” said Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio). “If the votes were there, this would be on the floor. The votes aren’t there.”

    Kucinich was about to enter a Capitol building meeting room with fellow House Democrats who have been critical of the $700 billion relief measure for the Wall Street crisis.

    The meeting was organized by Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif.) and has been termed the “Skeptics Caucus.” Lawmakers were meeting with well-known economists, such as James Galbraith, economics professor at the University of Texas, and William Isaac, former chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Commission.

    Speaking before the meeting, Sherman equated the Treasury Department proposal to a power-grab by the Bush administration as well as a gift to failing financial services firms.

    “This is greatest shift of power to the imperial presidency and the greatest shift of wealth to a still wealthy Wall Street that anyone could imagine,” said Sherman. In addition, the California Democrat also began distributing Sunday a “Dear Colleague” letter highly critical of the relief package.

    Kucinich called for more hearings on the bailout despite Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke speaking about the proposal before lawmakers last week.

    “None of this has been subject to a critical analysis. We haven’t had access to the books to the people who are claiming they are going broke,” said Kucinich. He also drew the parallel between the administration’s intense urgency on the Wall Street relief package and its drive towards the conflict in Iraq.

    “They rushed this Congress into the Iraq resolution and look what happened. Catastrophe for this nation as well as for the people of Iraq,” said Kucinich.

    House Republicans have been credited with slowing the bailout that led to the contentious White House summit involving both presidential candidates, Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Barack Obama (D-Ill.), on Thursday.

    Kucinich alluded to his colleagues across the aisle that have also become a source of opposition to the bill.

    “There is an attempt to create a fake partisan dichotomy here. This is not about Democrat versus Republican. This is about Main Street or Wall Street,” said Kucinich.
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    Walking out of a Sunday night caucus meeting – where members saw the bill on paper for the first time – a number of Democrats said they still has serious reservations.

    Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.), an original founder of the self-described Skeptics Caucus, walked out of the meeting about 15 minutes after it began. Asked if the meeting was done, DeFazio said; “No, I’m done.”

    And Rep. Joe Baca (D-Calif.), the Chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, said a majority of his caucus won’t vote for the bill.

    “There’s nothing in here that guarantees new jobs, nothing that guarantees salary increases,” Baca said. “And that’s a huge problem.”

    Rep. Ellen Tauscher (D-Calif.) said the majority of undecided members are now moving toward supporting the proposal.

    And Democrats appear to have been able to assuage the concerns of the conservative Blue Dogs, a huge conservative voting block within the caucus, with the inclusion of language guaranteeing that the Treasury can recoup some future profits from companies who sell their bad debt to the government.

    But Democratic leaders still say they need a majority of the GOP conference to pass the bill.

    “The burden is on the Republicans; this is their bill,” said Democratic Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) — who added that Pelosi has yet to tell him if he should whip his members.
    Last edited by Rajiv; September 28, 2008, 11:52 PM.

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    Re: Kucinich says not enough votes for bailout

    "The burden is on Republicans. This is their bill."

    Funny how the Democrats, who control both houses of Congress, suddenly make out as though everything depends on Republicans passing a bill. Is that why people voted Democrats into power? So that when the tough decisions came up, they could claim that the minority party was the one responsible for putting forward bills and getting them passed?

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      Re: Kucinich says not enough votes for bailout

      Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul were the only candidates who were not members of the Council on Foreign Relation ...( well Gravel was also not a CFR member, but I'm not sure he was a candidate )

      Anyway, it's interesting to watch the debate between the Republicrats and Demolicans

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        Re: Kucinich says not enough votes for bailout

        Originally posted by Mn_Mark View Post
        " Is that why people voted Democrats into power? So that when the tough decisions came up, they could claim that the minority party was the one responsible for putting forward bills and getting them passed?
        Exactly they are cowards. They make it sound as this is nothing political while this bill in actuality is 100% political!

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          Re: Kucinich says not enough votes for bailout

          Originally posted by Tulpen View Post
          Exactly they are cowards. They make it sound as this is nothing political while this bill in actuality is 100% political!
          They're all cowards! The democrats caused the housing trainwreck and the Republicans caused the military industrial complex to go supernova. Either way, these jackals don't know the first thing about making and saving money. All they know is spending and taxing.:mad:

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          • #6
            Re: Kucinich says not enough votes for bailout

            What planet are you people living on?

            The Republicans controlled the congress for 12 of the last 14 years, the white house for the past 8 years, and this proposal came from a Republican administration! They double crossed the Dems after 911 with their appointments and interpretations of legislation. The Dems are certainly gutless, but they're not crazy enough to pass a bill that everyone knows is risky and very unpopular, but may be better than the alternative, while the deregulating Repubs try to avoid responsibility and stand back to blame them.

            Something has to be done! The Dems are working with one of the most unpopular administrations in history to make an effort to stop the collapse that they probably know is inevitable, while the Repubs stand by throwing monkey wrenches and promoting their scorched earth policies.

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            • #7
              Re: Kucinich says not enough votes for bailout

              He was right

              The bail-out needed 217 votes to pass, but only 205 votes were cast in favour - 140 by Democrats and 65 by Republicans. Another 228 representatives voted against the bill.

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