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    The world's largest debtor nation has evidently decided to drag everyone else down with it by pissing off the Russians.


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...nrussia129.xml
    Russia may cut off oil flow to the West


    By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
    Last Updated: 4:02pm BST 29/08/2008


    Fears are mounting that Russia may restrict oil deliveries to Western Europe over coming days, in response to the threat of EU sanctions and Nato naval actions in the Black Sea.

    Any such move would be a dramatic escalation of the Georgia crisis and play havoc with the oil markets.

    Reports have begun to circulate in Moscow that Russian oil companies are under orders from the Kremlin to prepare for a supply cut to Germany and Poland through the Druzhba (Friendship) pipeline. It is believed that executives from lead-producer LUKoil have been put on weekend alert.

    "They have been told to be ready to cut off supplies as soon as Monday," claimed a high-level business source, speaking to The Daily Telegraph. Any move would be timed to coincide with an emergency EU summit in Brussels, where possible sanctions against Russia are on the agenda.

    Any evidence that the Kremlin is planning to use the oil weapon to intimidate the West could inflame global energy markets. US crude prices jumped to $119 a barrel yesterday on reports of hurricane warnings in the Gulf of Mexico, before falling back slightly.Global supplies remain tight despite the economic downturn engulfing North America, Europe and Japan. A supply cut at this delicate juncture could drive crude prices much higher, possibly to record levels of $150 or even $200 a barrel.
    With US and European credit spreads already trading at levels of extreme stress, a fresh oil spike would rock financial markets. The Kremlin is undoubtedly aware that it exercises extraordinary leverage, if it strikes right now.
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    Such action would be seen as economic warfare but Russia has been infuriated by Nato meddling in its "backyard" and threats of punitive measures by the EU. Foreign minister Sergei Lavrov yesterday accused EU diplomats of a "sick imagination".
    Armed with $580bn of foreign reserves (the world's third largest), Russia appears willing to risk its reputation as a reliable actor on the international stage in order to pursue geo-strategic ambitions.
    "We are not afraid of anything, including the prospect of a Cold War," said President Dmitry Medvedev.
    The Polish government said yesterday that Russian deliveries were still arriving smoothly. It was not aware of any move to limit supplies. The European Commission's energy directorate said it had received no warnings of retaliatory cuts.
    Russia has repeatedly restricted oil and gas deliveries over recent years as a means of diplomatic pressure, though Moscow usually explains away the reduction by referring to technical upsets or pipeline maintenance.
    Last month, deliveries to the Czech Republic through the Druzhba pipeline were cut after Prague signed an agreement with the US to install an anti-missile shield. Czech officials say supplies fell 40pc for July. The pipeline managers Transneft said the shortfall was due to "technical and commercial reasons".
    Supplies were cut to Estonia in May 2007 following a dispute with Russia over the removal of Red Army memorials. It was blamed on a "repair operation". Latvia was cut off in 2005 and 2006 in a battle for control over the Ventspils terminals. "There are ways to camouflage it," said Vincent Sabathier, a senior fellow at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.
    "They never say, 'we're going to cut off your oil because we don't like your foreign policy'."
    A senior LUKoil official in Moscow said he was unaware of any plans to curtail deliveries. The Kremlin declined to comment.

    London-listed LUKoil is run by Russian billionaire Vagit Alekperov, who holds 20pc of the shares. LUKoil produces 2m barrels per day (b/d), or 2.5pc of world supply. It exports one fifth of its output to Germany and Poland.
    Although Russia would lose much-needed revenue if it cut deliveries, the Kremlin might hope to recoup some of the money from higher prices. Indeed, it could enhance income for a while if the weapon was calibrated skilfully. Russia exports roughly 6.5m b/d, supplying the EU with 26pc of its total oil needs and 29pc of its gas.
    A cut of just 1m b/d in global supply – and a veiled threat of more to come – would cause a major price spike.
    It is unclear whether Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or other Opec producers have enough spare capacity to plug the shortfall. "Russia is behaving in a very erratic way," said James Woolsey, the former director of the CIA. "There is a risk that they might do something like cutting oil to hurt the world's democracies, if they get angry enough."
    Mr Woolsey said the rapid move towards electric cars and other sources of power in the US and Europe means Russia's ability to use the oil weapon will soon be a diminishing asset. "Within a decade it will be very hard for Russia to push us around," he told The Daily Telegraph.
    It is widely assumed that Russia would cut gas supplies rather than oil as a means of pressuring Europe. It is very hard to find alternative sources of gas. But gas cuts would not hurt the United States. Oil is a better weapon for striking at the broader Western world.
    The price is global. The US economy could suffer serious damage from the immediate knock-on effects.
    While the Russian state is rich, the corporate sector is heavily reliant on foreign investors. The internal bond market is tiny, with just $60bn worth of ruble issues.
    Russian companies raise their funds on the world capital markets. Foreigners own half of the $1 trillion debt. Michael Ganske, Russia expert at Commerzbank, said the country was now facing a liquidity crunch. "Local investors are scared. They can see the foreigners leaving, so now they won't touch anything either. The impact on the capital markets is severe," he said.

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    Re: Russians Sending A Message to Europe...

    What Russia will do next


    Aug 28th 2008
    From Economist.com
    A secret e-mail to Mr Putin reaches our columnist

    Fromleg.shutnik@svr.ru
    To:vvp@gov.ru
    Cc:dam@kremlin.ru
    ESTEEMED Vladimir Vladimirovich!


    As director of the operational task-force of the Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation, I present my compliments to you personally at the conclusion of the initial military-political phase of Operation “Return”.
    The penetration by this service and its sister organisations of decision-making structures in the enemy camp has long given us advance warning of European Union and NATO plans, and a substantial ability to influence them. Even we, however, did not expect such torpor and weakness from the enemy. We see empty words but no readiness for serious resistance. Indeed, some western commentators and politicians have praised our actions as justified, including in some cases those who have received no payment or other inducements. We can proceed confidently.


    As we underline the disadvantages of bad relations and highlight the advantages of good ones, our main ally is the electoral cycle. Voters, politicians and other decision-makers will become increasingly aware that if they resist us, they will pay a heavy price; but if they cooperate, they will benefit.


    We will extend the intimidation, harassment and expropriation of British, American, Polish and Czech companies active in our domestic market and as energy customers, while at the same time offering further preferential treatment to those from countries that are politically friendly, especially France, Italy and Germany. Are big European companies willing to sacrifice billions of euros in lost exports or higher energy costs by indulging their politicians’ desire to grandstand and moralise? We think not.


    We should visibly intensify our activity in non-western financial centres, chiefly Dubai, Mumbai and Shanghai, to show western capital markets, particularly London and New York, the loss of business that they face by their governments’ intransigent behaviour.


    Similarly, the next American president will face a stark choice between the imminent prospect of a nuclear-armed Iran or the wasting asset of involvement in a Europe that does not wish to defend itself. more

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    • #3
      Re: Russians Sending A Message to Europe...

      That email is pretty funny. IMHO this is a warning send by the west to Putin. i.e. the western intelligence agencies have intercepted a top secret email and they have translated enough of the details so the russians can recognize the document.

      And one more thing:

      http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n150968

      Tbilisi. Georgia on Friday said it was terminating agreements under which Russian peacekeepers were allowed to operate in its breakaway regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia AFP reports.
      "The prime minister of Georgia, Lado Gurgenidze, has signed a decree that will terminate the so-called peacekeeping operations on the territories of Abkhazia and South Ossetia," the government said in a statement.
      "The decree... also requires the immediate withdrawal of Russian Federation armed forces from the entire territory of Georgia."
      Georgia allowed Russian peacekeepers to operate in Abkhazia under the 1994 Moscow agreement and in South Ossetia under the 1992 Dagomys Agreement.
      "Georgia thus will demand the immediate withdrawal of the peacekeepers from both the Abkhazia and South Ossetia regions, and their replacement with neutral, international peacekeepers," the statement said.
      IMHO this piece of news is quite important. It announce the beginning of the second stage of the war in Georgia.

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        Re: Russians Sending A Message to Europe...

        Originally posted by $#* View Post
        That email is pretty funny. IMHO this is a warning send by the west to Putin. i.e. the western intelligence agencies have intercepted a top secret email and they have translated enough of the details so the russians can recognize the document.

        And one more thing:

        http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n150968



        IMHO this piece of news is quite important. It announce the beginning of the second stage of the war in Georgia.
        This email is garbage.

        Editor’s note: “Shutnik”—the surname of the author of this email—is the Russian word for “Joker”. Whether this affects the authenticity of the above material is for readers to decide.

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        • #5
          Re: Russians Sending A Message to Europe...

          Originally posted by jtabeb View Post
          This email is garbage.

          Editor’s note: “Shutnik”—the surname of the author of this email—is the Russian word for “Joker”. Whether this affects the authenticity of the above material is for readers to decide.
          That is called plausible deniability ;)

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          • #6
            Re: Russians Sending A Message to Europe...

            I had understood the editor's note to indicate that this was written by the editorial staff of The Economist, as a somewhat playful vehicle to present speculation about Russian motives by their opinion columnist. Just before the editor's note is the self-referential line:
            There remains only the problem of certain propagandists in the enemy media who

            [text interrupted]

            This is clearly tongue-in-cheek, not cloak-and-dagger.

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            • #7
              Re: Russians Sending A Message to Europe...

              Against the background of rational decision making left in the Kremlin:

              There is no way they cut supplies to Europe. Secure earnings from energy exports is the their (sole) base of power AND domestic economy.

              If they gamble with that it would at least put the Europeans together. (In contrast to the current chicken-coop of European foreign relations)
              And a strong unite European position would not be in favor of Russian objectives.

              :rolleyes:

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              • #8
                Re: Russians Sending A Message to Europe...

                Here is, I believe, a very balanced and interesting piece:

                http://www.russiablog.org/2008/08/ru...are_enteri.php

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                • #9
                  Re: Russians Sending A Message to Europe...

                  Originally posted by $#* View Post
                  Here is, I believe, a very balanced and interesting piece:

                  http://www.russiablog.org/2008/08/ru...are_enteri.php
                  interesting source and article. thx for sharing.



                  some thoughts regard the Russian society:

                  - what kind of society is left after 70 years of Orwellian dictatorship ?

                  - how much self healing power is left for this society with a "cleaned" and wiped out free media during the last 6 years ? (after a short spring time)

                  - how much of this conflict is meant to be for the russian "domestic viewer" ?

                  - how do you deal with a KGB/FSB infected government on all important levels ?
                  (and obviously economic dilettantes - apart from Mr. Putins general raw material master-plan / thesis )

                  - which russian society will demand otherwise? As they are economical better now than during Jelzin's time ?

                  - Is this a failed (or better - never right started ) democratic society ?

                  :rolleyes:
                  Last edited by makkie; August 31, 2008, 12:51 PM.

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                    Re: Russians Sending A Message to Europe...

                    Originally posted by makkie View Post
                    interesting source and article. thx for sharing.



                    some thoughts regard the Russian society:

                    - what kind of society is left after 70 years of Orwellian dictatorship ?

                    - how much self healing power is left for this society with a "cleaned" and wiped out free media during the last 6 years ? (after a short spring time)

                    - how much of this conflict is ment to be for the russian "domestic viewer" ?

                    - how do you deal with a KGB/FSB infected government on all important levels ?
                    (and obviously economic dilettantes - apart from Mr. Putins general raw material master-plan / thesis )

                    - which russian society will demand otherwise? As they are economical better now than during Jelzin's time ?

                    - Is this a failed (or better - never right started ) democratic society ?

                    :rolleyes:
                    Ingushetia website owner killed

                    Aug. 31, 2008 (BBC)

                    The owner of an internet site critical of the Russian authorities in the volatile region of Ingushetia has been shot dead after police detained him.

                    Magomed Yevloyev, owner of the Ingushetiya.ru site, was a vocal critic of the region's Kremlin-backed administration.

                    The Russian prosecutor's office said an investigation into the death had been launched, Interfax reported.

                    A post on Yevloyev's site said he was detained at Ingushetia's airport.

                    The website owner was taken to hospital but died from his injuries.

                    Reports quoting local police said Yevloyev tried to seize a policeman's gun when he was being led to a vehicle. A shot was fired and Yevloyev was injured in the head.

                    ___________


                    Anyone running a web site critical of the Kremlin -- get the message?

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                      Re: Russians Sending A Message to Europe...

                      Originally posted by Ann View Post
                      Ingushetia website owner killed

                      Aug. 31, 2008 (BBC)

                      The owner of an internet site critical of the Russian authorities in the volatile region of Ingushetia has been shot dead after police detained him.

                      Magomed Yevloyev, owner of the Ingushetiya.ru site, was a vocal critic of the region's Kremlin-backed administration.

                      The Russian prosecutor's office said an investigation into the death had been launched, Interfax reported.

                      A post on Yevloyev's site said he was detained at Ingushetia's airport.

                      The website owner was taken to hospital but died from his injuries.

                      Reports quoting local police said Yevloyev tried to seize a policeman's gun when he was being led to a vehicle. A shot was fired and Yevloyev was injured in the head.

                      ___________


                      Anyone running a web site critical of the Kremlin -- get the message?
                      another sad news - i wonder if pravda will report this.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Russians Sending A Message to Europe...

                        Originally posted by makkie
                        - what kind of society is left after 70 years of Orwellian dictatorship ?
                        The extent of the 'Orwellian dictatorship' is significantly exaggerated - at least after Stalin kicked the bucket.

                        Between the Patriot act and the deployment of powerful automated surveillance, I would point out that the Orwellian capabilities of American government are probably stronger at this point.

                        Originally posted by makkie
                        - how much self healing power is left for this society with a "cleaned" and wiped out free media during the last 6 years ? (after a short spring time)
                        Given what I see in the supposed 'free media' in the US, I'm still somewhat unclear on how important/stable this factor is in long term society.

                        Originally posted by makkie
                        - how much of this conflict is meant to be for the russian "domestic viewer" ?
                        Certainly inflation is getting nutty - the fruit pies I used to but for 23 rubles (when 30 rubles/dollar) are now 40 rubles (today rate of 24.5 rubles/dollar)

                        But with the housing costs still very low for those who didn't move up, I have not seen much increase in suffering. But I'll also say I only spend time in the big cities: St. Petersburg, Moscow, and some of the milloniki.

                        Originally posted by makkie
                        - how do you deal with a KGB/FSB infected government on all important levels ?
                        (and obviously economic dilettantes - apart from Mr. Putins general raw material master-plan / thesis )
                        How do we deal with an Ivy League infected government on all important levels? Yale, Harvard, Columbia, and a few others.

                        Originally posted by makkie
                        - which russian society will demand otherwise? As they are economical better now than during Jelzin's time ?
                        I see very few Russians and those living in Russia who are demanding otherwise. The foremost (in my mind) among them is a huge fan of Bush and hates Putin, and is a Georgian living in Russia.

                        Everyone thinks Yeltsin was a drunk corrupt fool who screwed Russia, and views Putin as the one who is bringing Russia back. Except for the aforementioned fellow.

                        Originally posted by makkie
                        - Is this a failed (or better - never right started ) democratic society ?
                        I do wonder how much of the government in the US is due to circumstance rather than structure.

                        Life in Russia is tough. It is cold, farming is quite unproductive except for in the southern regions - away from the White Russian population centers.

                        There are many examples where this manifests: hot water being one.

                        In the US, almost everyone - even in apartments - has their own hot water heater. Only the oldest apartments have otherwise with a few exceptions.

                        In Russia, it is the opposite. The winter is severe enough that there are hot water boiling plants in each district/subdistrict with the hot water pipes running alongside the cold water pipes to keep them from freezing in winter.

                        I have no idea how water is supplied is Minnesota, but I am fairly sure it isn't with the Russian model.

                        Putin is accumulated a lot of power - and in general I believe it has been used to Russia's benefit thus far. But time will tell whether ultimately this accumulation was a positive or negative.

                        I would advise you to read some of his speeches, however.

                        The actual words from his mouth are very different than the image portrayed by the 'free democratic' media.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Russians Sending A Message to Europe...

                          Originally posted by KGW View Post
                          The world's largest debtor nation has evidently decided to drag everyone else down with it by pissing off the Russians.


                          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...nrussia129.xml
                          Russia may cut off oil flow to the West


                          ...
                          Ya, sure. And Europe is blameless, right?

                          The former Soviet satellites in eastern Europe have been trying to get the message through the thick heads of "Old Europe's" politicians for years. Unlike Chirac, who lectured them for failing to take advantage of an "opportunity to shut-up", the citizens of Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic understand what it's like to be "inside" Russia's border.

                          The Germans are no smarter, and judging by this they aren't any less corrupt than the Goldman led mafia that rules Washington (and very soon Ottawa too).
                          Washington Post Foreign Service
                          Saturday, December 10, 2005
                          BERLIN, Dec. 9 -- Former German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder landed a job Friday as board chairman for a Russian-German gas pipeline that he championed while in office, a post that deepens his already close relationship with the Russian government and President Vladimir Putin.

                          At a groundbreaking ceremony about 250 miles north of Moscow, Alexei Miller, the chief executive of Gazprom, the Russian energy giant that holds a majority stake in the pipeline partnership, said the Schroeder-led board would be involved in "reaching all strategic decisions on all areas of the company's activity."...
                          Apparently it wasn't just George Bush who looked deep into Vladmir's soul and decided, at the time, they liked what they found...

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                          • #14
                            Re: Russians Sending A Message to Europe...

                            Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                            Ya, sure. And Europe is blameless, right?

                            The former Soviet satellites in eastern Europe have been trying to get the message through the thick heads of "Old Europe's" politicians for years. Unlike Chirac, who lectured them for failing to take advantage of an "opportunity to shut-up", the citizens of Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic understand what it's like to be "inside" Russia's border.

                            The Germans are no smarter, and judging by this they aren't any less corrupt than the Goldman led mafia that rules Washington (and very soon Ottawa too).
                            Washington Post Foreign Service
                            Saturday, December 10, 2005
                            BERLIN, Dec. 9 -- Former German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder landed a job Friday as board chairman for a Russian-German gas pipeline that he championed while in office, a post that deepens his already close relationship with the Russian government and President Vladimir Putin.

                            At a groundbreaking ceremony about 250 miles north of Moscow, Alexei Miller, the chief executive of Gazprom, the Russian energy giant that holds a majority stake in the pipeline partnership, said the Schroeder-led board would be involved in "reaching all strategic decisions on all areas of the company's activity."...
                            Apparently it wasn't just George Bush who looked deep into Vladmir's soul and decided, at the time, they liked what they found...
                            A little more "multi-polar" is a good thing, GRG55. What little time the American elite suffered under the delusion of the unipolar world has borne very sour fruit indeed.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Russians Sending A Message to Europe...

                              "the citizens of Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic understand what it's like to be "inside" Russia's border. "

                              And thus they follow the foolish policy of acquiring enemies in the neighborhood and friends across the ocean. Yeah, this strategy worked out for the Poles in 1939. Now they stupidly repeat it.
                              Actually, Germany, Italy and France understands that without Russian energy THERE IS NO EUROPEAN ECONOMY. Also exports of the EU grow very dynamically to Russia.

                              The citizens of Iraq, Grenada, Vietnam and countless others could tell tales about being inside the US border. Just how is that any better?

                              The Great Powers (Russia and USA) are not charity organizations. They do not have friends, they only have interests.

                              Since 1990 the US is encircling Russia with bases and Allies. Instead of taking Russia as a partner (as was promised) the USA wants to defeat Russia again. The reason: they could not install their puppet Khodorkovsky. Now Russia is back in the game with a rather strong hand. It is not in the interest of Europe to antagonize Russia.

                              YES, they can cut off oil and gas. Or halve shipments. The rise in oil price would compensate for the lost volume. They could also build pipelines towards their ally: China. It may take a few years. But Europeans would freeze to death by the tens of thousands.

                              Old Europe will not take a tough stance against Russia. It is not in their interest at all.

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