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  • #16
    Re: An interesting piece in Asia Times

    Do you believe GDP growth in China was 10.5% a year? 10.5% is as much as the World and the congress can accept.

    If China revealed it growth averages 13-14% a year (hypothetical), the world would be up in arms because China will exceed the US in less than 20 years (assuming) and not the 30 years we all thought (which American politician would care what happens 30 years later, and by which there will be other problems like how to pay for the retirement and health expense of 150 million elderly americans. ).



    Originally posted by phirang View Post
    It's also worth noting that the Chinese, in public, like all other Asian countries, loves to understate their achievements and self-deprecate whenever possible. Japan has been supposedly in the gutter since 1987, but somehow, mysteriously, Toyota has managed to dominate the global auto market.

    I've seen Chinese AK's and RPG's in Africa: they're very popular there, along with their over-engineered yet cheap prime-movers, bridges, roads, buildings, power-plants, dams, etc, etc.

    Most African countries usually get their planes from Ukraine, Bulgaria, Belarus, etc, though. Maybe Ash can help me out on that one.

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    • #17
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      Assuming the use of CPI as a deflator, China's GDP growth is currently no higher than 3-4%.
      http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by bart View Post
        Assuming the use of CPI as a deflator, China's GDP growth is currently no higher than 3-4%.

        Not sure about real growth, but on a relative basis, their published growth of 10% a year definitely looks more real than Singapore's published growth of 6% a year.

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by bart View Post


          Assuming the use of CPI as a deflator, China's GDP growth is currently no higher than 3-4%.
          Thank you Bart. That says it all.

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          • #20
            Re: An interesting piece in Asia Times

            I had news from an associate in China that the Chinese government has started forcing Chinese businesses to go into higher value added businesses by raising minimum wage requirement and improving labor laws. This happening at a time when commodity prices are soaring. Tens of thousands of low cost toy and shoe makers are closing down as the rising cost make their business non-viable.

            China is trying to induce wage spiral inflation which Western economists fear about?

            Does this makes sense?

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            • #21
              Re: An interesting piece in Asia Times

              Touchring,

              Actually, it does.

              By exclusively focusing on export and low price, the business owners in China are doing the country a huge long term disservice: starving the domestic market of growth.

              The new practices are likely encouraging businesses to produce higher quality products which in turn justify higher wages, which also in turn will improve the lot of the average populace.

              Otherwise another IWW (wobbly) revolution may well occur.

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              • #22
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                Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                Touchring,

                Actually, it does.

                By exclusively focusing on export and low price, the business owners in China are doing the country a huge long term disservice: starving the domestic market of growth.

                The new practices are likely encouraging businesses to produce higher quality products which in turn justify higher wages, which also in turn will improve the lot of the average populace.

                Otherwise another IWW (wobbly) revolution may well occur.

                It will take more than just this for a revolution to occur. Just look at North Korea, 10% of the population can starve to death and yet no revolution.

                China only had a revolution 60 years ago when almost the whole country is starving - you can't fight rebellion when even your soldiers are starting to starve.

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                • #23
                  Re: An interesting piece in Asia Times

                  Originally posted by touchring View Post
                  I had news from an associate in China that the Chinese government has started forcing Chinese businesses to go into higher value added businesses by raising minimum wage requirement and improving labor laws. This happening at a time when commodity prices are soaring. Tens of thousands of low cost toy and shoe makers are closing down as the rising cost make their business non-viable.

                  China is trying to induce wage spiral inflation which Western economists fear about?

                  Does this makes sense?
                  Yes: China has secured many upstream assets, and so now they can let the Viets do the dirty work.

                  My friends in China get concrete cheapest from Vietnam...

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                  • #24
                    Re: An interesting piece in Asia Times

                    Originally posted by phirang View Post
                    Yes: China has secured many upstream assets, and so now they can let the Viets do the dirty work.

                    My friends in China get concrete cheapest from Vietnam...

                    China is following the Singapore method, using money to secure assets. Capitalism by the state. This makes the regime even more powerful.

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