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    Gold prices have seen a breathtaking decline from the mid $700s as recently as this spring to well below $600 today, much of that occurring in a first wave off the highs and a second over the past several days. Energy prices are down sharply and Morgan Stanley's Steven Roach is declaring the commodity bull over.

    Should we be buying gold, selling it, or holding it?

    There are two parts to the answer. First, realize that while we can speculate as to what the price of anything will do in the future, there are other considerations that we can assess with certainty. In particular, we don't have to speculate as to how much gold we have right now, all we need do is look at our portfolio and get a solid answer. The second part is our analysis and speculation as to what the price will do in the future.

    Let's put these two aspects together. To do so, we frame the question in terms of what proportion of gold we ought to have in our portfolios, relative to how much we think we ought to have. Once we have done that, the question as to whether to buy, sell, or hold is put on a firm footing.

    To illustrate, let's assume that the ideal amount of gold to have in one's portfolio is unknown, but that it is more than 0% and less than 100%. If we examine our portfolio and see that we have no gold at all, the answer is clear. Buy. If we find that our portfolio consists entirely of gold, the answer is equally clear. Sell.

    Next, let’s see if we can narrow down that 0%-100% range a bit. What does the rest of our portfolio look like? Is any of it fairly well correlated with gold? For example, if 50% of our portfolio is silver and the rest natural resource stocks, we ought want less gold than if the everything else we had was tech stocks and bonds!

    And what do we think will happen to gold prices? We don’t know if gold is now bottoming, nearing a bottom, or has several months or so of further weakness to go. It is by no means certain, but I’m posting my latest gold forecast chart below. An in depth examination of history, however, and an analysis of what has happened in the past under similar financial and economic circumstances, suggests that somewhere down the road, very probably within the next few years, gold prices will be at multi-thousand-dollar levels. The Federal Reserve is in the latter stages of an inflation-fighting effort, and evidence of some deflationary forces, including slumping house prices as well as commodity prices and perhaps stock prices, is mounting. Practically as day follows night, the next part of the cycle will see the Fed fighting economic weakness, which means rate slashing and liquidity pumping. It is this reflationary effort which is likely to spur the next big leg up in gold prices. For historical precedent, recall the 1970’s where an overarching secular inflationary cycle was punctuated in the middle by a deflationary countertrend. Gold prices, which went up by over twenty times, did so in two distinct phases, with a corresponding countertrend decline of demarcation.

    In my view, then, let’s suppose the rest of our portfolio is a neutral mix of broad stocks, bonds, and cash, with perhaps some real estate. In this context, about 25% of the total portfolio value in gold is not at all unreasonable, and is probably about ideal for investors with more than a couple years’ time frame, given both the nearer term uncertainty and longer term bullish outlook. Folks who are more conservative or more skeptical about the outlook could employ a few percent less, and those more aggressive or more bullish could employ a few percent more. And as alluded to before, one naturally would also consider the composition of the remainder of the portfolio.

    With the above assumptions in mind, then, the answer boils down to this. Do you have substantially less than 25% of your portfolio in gold? Then buy. Do you have substantially more than 25%? Then sell. If you’re pretty close, then hold.

    Last edited by Finster; September 11, 2006, 10:23 AM.
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    Re: Whither Gold?

    It appears to me that gold, silver and energy are below their trend lines and the move down from the highs should continue for an indeterminate amount of time.

    I am holding on to physical PM acquired at lower price points and denominated predominantly in Chinese Yuan and Canadian dollars.

    I have moved some profits from energy and PM Mutual and ETF to 91 day T- bill funds, but I did not entirely extinguish these funds.
    I'll hold here until I see Gold testing the low 500's. About then Ben should blink.

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      Re: Whither Gold?

      Originally posted by the Hobbit
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      I'll hold here until I see Gold testing the low 500's. About then Ben should blink.
      My initial target is around $550 and I'll be punting from there... and do keep in mind that Ben may not blink first. The BoJ was actually the major central bank that started pulling the liquidity plug first way back in Feb/March (the black line):

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        Re: Whither Gold?

        Originally posted by the Hobbit
        It appears to me that gold, silver and energy are below their trend lines and the move down from the highs should continue for an indeterminate amount of time.

        I am holding on to physical PM acquired at lower price points and denominated predominantly in Chinese Yuan and Canadian dollars.

        I have moved some profits from energy and PM Mutual and ETF to 91 day T- bill funds, but I did not entirely extinguish these funds.
        I'll hold here until I see Gold testing the low 500's. About then Ben should blink.
        TBills are not a bad idea in here at all, even if I wouldn't put all my chips there. Guess it's not impossible, but I would be surprised if we ever see sub-$500 gold again.
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          Re: Whither Gold?

          Originally posted by bart
          My initial target is around $550 and I'll be punting from there... and do keep in mind that Ben may not blink first. The BoJ was actually the major central bank that started pulling the liquidity plug first way back in Feb/March (the black line):

          Bart, your use of the term "punt" is throwing me. In American football it denotes capitulation by the offense. Are you saying that you would throw in the towel on PM if 550 is breeched? Or are you inclined to "take a flyer" on PM if that attractive level is breeched?

          It's just that we seem to have hit a disinflationary airpocket. BoJ's withdrawal of liquidity has cut the legs out of the metals advance. The Chinese appear to have profited from their naked shorting of silver, but at some point I expect them to cover that bet. profit taking of the large silver short should provide some downside price support for silver.


          I agree with Finster that sub 500 gold appears unlikely but when one is playing poker against an opponent who can produce additional chips at will anything is possible.

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            Re: Whither Gold?

            Originally posted by the Hobbit
            I agree with Finster that sub 500 gold appears unlikely but when one is playing poker against an opponent who can produce additional chips at will anything is possible.
            The wild card is the possibility of a deeper and more sustained deflation than presently appears likely. We're getting a whiff of deflation now, but remember we have that ace "deflation fighter" at the helm of the Fed. The level of dollar denominated debt is such that we 'should' get a stiff deflation. If, as I expect, the printing presses and helicopters get fired up, it will be aborted before it gets very far, and gold will do a moon shot a-la late seventies.
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              Re: Whither Gold?

              Originally posted by the Hobbit
              Bart, your use of the term "punt" is throwing me. In American football it denotes capitulation by the offense. Are you saying that you would throw in the towel on PM if 550 is breeched? Or are you inclined to "take a flyer" on PM if that attractive level is breeched?

              It's just that we seem to have hit a disinflationary airpocket. BoJ's withdrawal of liquidity has cut the legs out of the metals advance. The Chinese appear to have profited from their naked shorting of silver, but at some point I expect them to cover that bet. profit taking of the large silver short should provide some downside price support for silver.


              I agree with Finster that sub 500 gold appears unlikely but when one is playing poker against an opponent who can produce additional chips at will anything is possible.
              Sorry, I was using "punt" in a slang sense to mean I'd re-evaluate all the current data if $550 is significantly broken.

              I still think that there's no more than about a 20-25% chance that $500 will be broken and have a minimum target of $515... but it truly is "data dependent" as the Fed says except I'll be looking at all the raw money creation stats and things like COT and the spot vs. futures gaps, etc.

              (edit to add my current gold prediction chart)

              Last edited by bart; September 15, 2006, 11:18 AM.
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