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    http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...=1211216000088

    From Times OnlineMay 19, 2008

    Jean Claude Trichet warns of 'very significant market correction'
    Miles Costello
    Fears of a sustained downturn in world economies was back on the agenda today after Jean Claude Trichet, the president of the European Central Bank, gave warning that the worst of the credit crunch has not passed and the economy was still heading for a "very significant market correction".

    Mr Trichet, who has fiercely resisted following other policymakers by making interest rate cuts, insisted in an interview today that acting to restrain rampant inflationary growth was the best way to ensure stability and job security.

    Mr Trichet told the BBC: “Price stability and credibility in price stability in the medium term is the best way to have a high level of sustainable growth and sustainable job creation.”

    His warning came just days after Mr Trichet told a Lisbon conference that overconfidence by markets in the past had fuelled inflationary pressures.

    Mr Trichet said this morning: “These are challenging times obviously. We have this accumulation of the oil shock, the food and agro-products shock. What we say at this moment is not to embark in what we call ’second round’ effects.”

    He added: “In the first oil shock when we took the wrong decision, embarking on what I call second round effects, we enshrined a high level of inflation. And we created ... mass unemployment in Europe.”

    The ECB is facing a tough economic environment across the euro-zone. Inflation hit a record 3.6 per cent in March, against its long-term targeted rate of 2 per cent. The price of oil hit a new high at the end of last week, reaching $127.82 on Friday, before falling back this morning to $125.92 in early trading.

    Central bankers have to contend with a weak US economy, as well as high oil and commodity prices.

    But under Mr Trichet's leadership, the ECB has held back from cutting its interest rates in the face of the credit crunch.

    Mr Trichet has kept the ECB's key interest rate on hold at 4 per cent as his peers in both the UK and America have taken the axe to the cost of borrowing.

    Last month, the US cut its main interest rate by a further 25 basis points to 2 per cent.

    The Bank of England has cut interest rates three times in recent months. The benchmark borrowing rate in Britain currently stands at 5 per cent.

    Last week Mervyn King, the Bank's Governor, signalled that rate cuts in the UK, where borrowing costs are now 5 per cent, were now looking unlikely, possibly before 2010.

    Mr Trichet's predictions came amid growing indications of a sharp corrections in a number of UK markets.

    The Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors predicted that house prices, sales and consumer spending would all fall in Britain if current conditions persist.

    Collins Stewart, the stockbroker and investment bank, cautioned that revenues had fallen by more than a fifth so far this year, driven by weak capital markets here and in America.

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    Re: Jean Claude Trichet warns of 'very significant market correction'

    Nice find, Sapiens, there seems to be a dropoff around here of people (including me) putting up good articles having to do with the deep doo-doo in which we likely are.
    Jim 69 y/o

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    • #3
      Re: Jean Claude Trichet warns of 'very significant market correction'

      when he says

      the economy was still heading for a "very significant market correction"
      which economy did he mean?

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        Re: Jean Claude Trichet warns of 'very significant market correction'

        Originally posted by Jim Nickerson View Post
        Nice find, Sapiens, there seems to be a dropoff around here of people (including me) putting up good articles having to do with the deep doo-doo in which we likely are.
        Not only here but other sites as well.

        This is an expected development which will increase over time. The reason is that as the recession develops and bad news goes from abstract to real, the "entertainment value" of bad news decreases. By mid 2009 there will be little market for sites that focus on economic and financial market problems.
        Ed.

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          Re: Jean Claude Trichet warns of 'very significant market correction'

          Originally posted by FRED View Post
          Not only here but other sites as well.

          This is an expected development which will increase over time. The reason is that as the recession develops and bad news goes from abstract to real, the "entertainment value" of bad news decreases. By mid 2009 there will be little market for sites that focus on economic and financial market problems.
          Time to buy Disney and TimeWarner as America decides to distract itself, just like in the '30's???

          Could we see a lot of US citizens, who formerly may have vacationed abroad, head to Disney World this summer, where they still accept bonars for gate admission (unlike the Taj Mahal, apparently)??

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            Re: Jean Claude Trichet warns of 'very significant market correction'

            I would be interested to know the relationship between the price of a movie ticket and the average and/or median hourly wage during the Great Depression and the same ratio today. I stopped going to the movies a long time ago--maybe once or twice a year now, real special occasions. Too spendy.

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              Re: Jean Claude Trichet warns of 'very significant market correction'

              Originally posted by tree View Post
              I would be interested to know the relationship between the price of a movie ticket and the average and/or median hourly wage during the Great Depression and the same ratio today. I stopped going to the movies a long time ago--maybe once or twice a year now, real special occasions. Too spendy.
              Well, for starters:

              According to the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), the average movie ticket price in 1924 was $.25, and by 1929 this average price had risen to $.35. But during The Great Depression ticket prices came back down and by 1935 they had dropped to an average of $.24. It wasn't until 1965 that the average movie ticket price rose above $1.00.
              According to this, during the 1930's a "manufacturing-production worker" averaged $16.89 per week.

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                Re: Jean Claude Trichet warns of 'very significant market correction'

                Originally posted by FRED View Post
                Not only here but other sites as well.

                This is an expected development which will increase over time. The reason is that as the recession develops and bad news goes from abstract to real, the "entertainment value" of bad news decreases. By mid 2009 there will be little market for sites that focus on economic and financial market problems.
                Fred what do U mean "bad new goes from abstract to real, the "entertainment value" of bad news decreases" ?? Please expalin for my little brain.

                rick

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                  Re: Jean Claude Trichet warns of 'very significant market correction'

                  Originally posted by Jim Nickerson View Post
                  Nice find, Sapiens, there seems to be a dropoff around here of people (including me) putting up good articles having to do with the deep doo-doo in which we likely are.
                  Jim, I am quite engaged with several projects; iTulip requires a premium currency which I currently hold very dear (time), therefore I try to indulge in this luxury sparingly.

                  As a side note, all credit contractions are like a wound to a hemophiliac, the banking institutions will bleed you to bankruptcy. If I was starting out, I would take drastic measures by reorganizing all my liabilities. Those that can read between the lines will understand without further ado.

                  I hope you have taken the necessary steps to prepare, because “It” certainly is not and will not be pretty.

                  -Sapiens

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                  • #10
                    Re: Jean Claude Trichet warns of 'very significant market correction'

                    Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                    Time to buy Disney and TimeWarner as America decides to distract itself, just like in the '30's???

                    Could we see a lot of US citizens, who formerly may have vacationed abroad, head to Disney World this summer, where they still accept bonars for gate admission (unlike the Taj Mahal, apparently)??
                    escapism, distractions, crime, drugs, bad music, ugly clothes... it's gonna be great! wonder that the hot drug of choice will be?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Jean Claude Trichet warns of 'very significant market correction'

                      Originally posted by RickBishop View Post
                      Fred what do U mean "bad new goes from abstract to real, the "entertainment value" of bad news decreases" ?? Please expalin for my little brain.

                      rick
                      I'm not Fred , but:


                      Imagine a scene with two characters; one is a Dutch boy and the other is a similarly attired Dutch girl. The boy is standing next to the dike, diligently employing his digits to plug the small leaks in the dike. He fails to notice that "the sea is angry this day, my friends."

                      The girl is standing on relatively safe ground, and implores the boy, though means of a megaphone, to stop wasting his time sticking his fingers in the cracks of the dike.

                      Over time (because these children are exceptionally patient and assiduous), the girl is successfully able to employ larger and larger megaphones with which to repeatedly entreat the boy to "do something different."

                      Eventually, the dike collapses, and the boy is swept away and drowns. Once the Zeider-Zee inundates the Dutch lowlands, even the international papers report voluminously upon the tragedy.

                      The prescient warnings of our adorable Dutch Cassandra are soon forgotten . . .

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                        Re: Jean Claude Trichet warns of 'very significant market correction'

                        Originally posted by tree View Post
                        I would be interested to know the relationship between the price of a movie ticket and the average and/or median hourly wage during the Great Depression and the same ratio today. I stopped going to the movies a long time ago--maybe once or twice a year now, real special occasions. Too spendy.
                        You and quite a few others. Now it's pay-per-view, rent-a-DVD, or download it. Americans aren't yet ready to abandon the media rooms in their Toll Brothers starter castles.

                        And guess who owns the film libraries...

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                        • #13
                          Re: Jean Claude Trichet warns of 'very significant market correction'

                          Originally posted by sadsack View Post
                          I'm not Fred , but:


                          Imagine a scene with two characters; one is a Dutch boy and the other is a similarly attired Dutch girl. The boy is standing next to the dike, diligently employing his digits to plug the small leaks in the dike. He fails to notice that "the sea is angry this day, my friends."

                          The girl is standing on relatively safe ground, and implores the boy, though means of a megaphone, to stop wasting his time sticking his fingers in the cracks of the dike.

                          Over time (because these children are exceptionally patient and assiduous), the girl is successfully able to employ larger and larger megaphones with which to repeatedly entreat the boy to "do something different."

                          Eventually, the dike collapses, and the boy is swept away and drowns. Once the Zeider-Zee inundates the Dutch lowlands, even the international papers report voluminously upon the tragedy.

                          The prescient warnings of our adorable Dutch Cassandra are soon forgotten . . .
                          Bingo. So... the credit crisis that was clearly coming, the politically motivated bailouts, the inflation (did the deflationistas ever concede failure? Nah!), the debt deflation market bear market with rally, the collapsing housing market, etc., etc. have occurred. Ho, hum. Can't keep reporting on foreclosures, now can we? Is that news? Of course not. Foreclosures are normal, or at least frequent. Soon enough everyone with jewelry to sell to "take advantage of high gold prices created by greedy speculators" has done so. That story is over. Where is the story about the irresponsible government that created the inflation? Never, mind. How about the "no market for SUVs" story. That will be old soon, too.

                          Once unemployment reaches 20% yet is reported as 7% or maybe 9%, as anyone who has given up looking for a job or got paid for mowing a lawn once this year is no longer "unemployed," after some time passes, perhaps the new story will be about violent crime. How could that have happened? Is it generational? Who is to blame? Certainly not the idiots who failed to regulate the lenders who created the credit crisis who caused the Fed to have to pour liquidity onto the inflation fire, wrecking the FIRE Economy, itself created by the same idiots. Oh my gosh! Waaaaay too complicated a story for FOX News viewers. It'd take longer than a half hour of reality TV.

                          Did you know there's a site devoted to reality TV? Reality TV World gets way more traffic than iTulip.com:


                          Last edited by FRED; May 22, 2008, 12:08 AM.
                          Ed.

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                            Re: Jean Claude Trichet warns of 'very significant market correction'

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                            Last edited by Nervous Drake; January 19, 2015, 02:23 PM.

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                              Re: Jean Claude Trichet warns of 'very significant market correction'

                              This was posted on doctorhousingbubble.com, but is perhaps what Sapiens is talking about:

                              http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/t...housing-crash/

                              “For example, two friends purchased adjoining identical houses in 1926 for $30,000. A certain bank placed a $15,000 mortgage on each. In 1929 the first owner paid off $10,000 on his mortgage. The second owner, when asked to do likewise, requested a reappraisal of his property. When a value of $40,000 was placed upon it he was able to induce the bank to lend him an additional $2,000, which he explained he needed in his business. In 1932 when both mortgages again fell due the bank needed liquid capital and, therefore, asked for full payments. Neither owner was able to meet this call. A reappraisal indicated that the value of the houses had fallen to $16,000 each. On one, the bank held a mortgage for $5,000, on the other for $17,000. What did the bank do? It commenced foreclosure proceedings on the strong mortgage fro $5,000 and allowed the weaker to stand. Why? It could readily transform the smaller mortgage into an asset on its books, whereas the larger mortgage would inevitably show a loss if the property were taken over.”
                              Moral of story? Being responsible is STUPID

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