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  • Here comes wave 1.5 of subprime...

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...cc4&refer=news

    Scorecard summary:

    BMY: $275M to $417M written off of portfolio of $811M
    CIEN: $13M written off of portfolio of $46.9M (SIV)
    LWSN: $4.2M written off portfolio of $90.6M; $57.2M FAILED AUCTION
    MSFT: 10% of portfolio, $3.19B in MBS. But no losses expected as they "avoided lower quality securities" like the AA and AAA Lawson ones. Yeah right.

    Bristol-Myers Squibb Co.'s $275 million writedown on subprime investments shows the mortgage crisis is spreading from Wall Street to the drug, technology and mining industries, where companies are posting losses on assets once rated AAA.
    Bristol-Myers, maker of the anti-clotting pill Plavix, reported a fourth-quarter net loss yesterday after writing off $275 million in investments in auction-rate securities, some of which had subprime mortgages as collateral. The writedown may increase to $417 million, officials said.
    Bristol-Myers has invested in AAA/Aaa-rated auction-rate securities ``for nearly a decade'' and had $811 million worth at the end of 2007, Chief Financial Officer Andrew Bonfield said yesterday. Deteriorating credit markets left it unable to sell some of the investments, he said.
    Ciena, a Linthicum, Maryland-based maker of networking equipment, had considered its investments ``conservative,'' said spokeswoman Nicole Anderson. Then, last quarter, it wrote down $13 million for commercial paper issued by two structured investment vehicles, SIV Portfolio Plc and Rhinebridge LLC, after they failed to make payments.
    `SIV-Related'
    After the Oct. 31 writedown, Ciena had $33.9 million in assets related to the securities, which are no longer being traded. That is probably all the company's ``SIV-related exposure,'' Anderson said.
    Lawson, based in St. Paul, Minnesota, had $90.6 million of auction securities on Aug. 31. Auctions on $57.2 million failed, and the company took a charge of $4.2 million the following quarter. The software maker said the securities were rated AA or AAA. Spokesman Aaron Pearson declined to provide an executive to comment.
    Microsoft had $3.19 billion, almost 10 percent of its investments, in mortgage-backed securities in its most recent fiscal year. Since then, Chief Financial Officer Chris Liddell said the Redmond, Washington-based company has lost ``virtually nothing'' because it avoided ``lower-quality securities.''

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    Another $200 billion in bank write-downs possible, says UBS

    “Banks have made progress in credit-market related writedowns,” London-based UBS analyst Philip Finch said in a note to investors today. “But more are expected,” he added.

    Writedowns for collateralized debt obligations and subprime related losses already total $150 billion, Finch estimated. That may rise by a further $120 billion for CDOs, $50 billion for structured investment vehicles, $18 billion for commercial mortgage-backed securities and $15 billion for leveraged buyouts, UBS said. “Risks are rising and spreading and liquidity conditions are still far from normal,” the note said.

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      Re: Here comes wave 1.5 of subprime...

      The thing that is striking about this is apparently these companies or the people in them making decisions are not much smarter than are men on the streets, or either they are greedy SOB's that just never gave a shit to begin with.
      Jim 69 y/o

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