Beirut- What the heck was that?

[shiny!]

What was that? The official narrative is that fireworks set off an ammonium nitrate explosion- causing the equivalent of a 3.2 mag. earthquake felt all the way in Cyprus. And a mushroom cloud. Really?

Those poor, poor people.

[Mega]

Re: Beirut- What the heck was that?

Ah............yes ammonium nitrate, beloved by School boys & the IRA was easy to get hold of till Terror attacks resent years here in the UK.
Stable (normally) but a low ish yield of 450 m/s......high explosive is 2200 m/s (I think).

Mike

[Mega]

Re: Beirut- What the heck was that?

Tricky stuff.............

Mike

[GRG55]

Re: Beirut- What the heck was that?

Yet another failed State. In a region filled with them.
And some people think it's the USA that's having problems, LOL.

[shiny!]

Re: Beirut- What the heck was that?

Yet another failed State. In a region filled with them.
And some people think it's the USA that's having problems, LOL.

In your opinion, could this blast have been caused by ammonium nitrate?

[GRG55]

Re: Beirut- What the heck was that?

In your opinion, could this blast have been caused by ammonium nitrate?

I don't have any opinion about it shiny!
It's just another explosion in what used to be a beautiful city, that has been dealing with periodic, sometimes frequent public high explosive blasts since August 13, 1975.

[shiny!]

Re: Beirut- What the heck was that?

Thanks. It really was such a beautiful city. Those poor people...

[touchring]

Re: Beirut- What the heck was that?

Yet another failed State. In a region filled with them.
And some people think it's the USA that's having problems, LOL.

What makes you think the USA isn't like them? At least the young girls (and boys) in Lebanon are safe.

The only difference between the USA and Lebanon is the USA has the Fed, but you can't print forever. Without the Dollar, the USA is no different from "them".

[jpatter666]

Re: Beirut- What the heck was that?

What makes you think the USA isn't like them? At least the young girls (and boys) in Lebanon are safe.

The only difference between the USA and Lebanon is the USA has the Fed, but you can't print forever. Without the Dollar, the USA is no different from "them".

Please. The US has myriad advantages.

No major enemies within immediate range.
A history of a reasonably stable society.
Nearly self-reliant (especially if it had the political will) in food and energy.

The US reminds me of Azimov's Federation. Always screws up and on the verge of defeat or collapse, but always comes through in the end to survive. Might be different this time, but looking at past history, I'm not entering the bunker yet.

[GRG55]

Re: Beirut- What the heck was that?

What makes you think the USA isn't like them? At least the young girls (and boys) in Lebanon are safe.

The only difference between the USA and Lebanon is the USA has the Fed, but you can't print forever. Without the Dollar, the USA is no different from "them".

The difference between the USA and Lebanon that says it all is people that live in the USA are not clamouring to get their children into Lebanon. But the people who live in Lebanon...well that's a different situation, isn't it.

Bash the USA in all the ridiculous, superficial ways you want. It's still one of the most desired destinations for other people's money and their families. Just ask the folks in Hong Kong.

[lakedaemonian]

Re: Beirut- What the heck was that?

The difference between the USA and Lebanon that says it all is people that live in the USA are not clamouring to get their children into Lebanon. But the people who live in Lebanon...well that's a different situation, isn't it.

Bash the USA in all the ridiculous, superficial ways you want. It's still one of the most desired destinations for other people's money and their families. Just ask the folks in Hong Kong.

Bullseye

[Techdread]

Re: Beirut- What the heck was that?

Bullseye

Wrong, where we think people want to go and where people end up are two different things.



https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-d...ics-and-facts/

When it comes to migrants the USA his high in absolute terms, but is a country middling when compared to the population.

"The proportion of immigrants varies considerably from one country to another. In some, it exceeds half the population, while in others it is below 0.1%. Which countries have the most immigrants? Where do they come from? How are they distributed across the world? We provide here an overview of the number and share of immigrants in different countries around the world.

According to the United Nations, the United States has the highest number of immigrants (foreign-born individuals), with 48 million in 2015, five times more than in Saudi Arabia (11 million) and six times more than in Canada (7.6 million) (figure below). However, in proportion to their population size, these two countries have significantly more immigrants: 34% and 21%, respectively, versus 15% in the United States."

[touchring]

Re: Beirut- What the heck was that?

Please. The US has myriad advantages.

No major enemies within immediate range.
A history of a reasonably stable society.
Nearly self-reliant (especially if it had the political will) in food and energy.

The US reminds me of Azimov's Federation. Always screws up and on the verge of defeat or collapse, but always comes through in the end to survive. Might be different this time, but looking at past history, I'm not entering the bunker yet.

I am not predicting that the US will become defeated or collapse nor am I saying that the US is already a failed state.

But the US has very serious problems when the police and legal system are being compromised. Epstein was killed in prison and all the camera evidence has been removed. How ridiculous is this? To be honest, stuff like this, you only hear in Russia or probably Soviet Union. Even in China, they won't kill the witness just like that.

[jpatter666]

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I am not predicting that the US will become defeated or collapse nor am I saying that the US is already a failed state.

But the US has very serious problems when the police and legal system are being compromised. Epstein was killed in prison and all the camera evidence has been removed. How ridiculous is this? To be honest, stuff like this, you only hear in Russia or probably Soviet Union. Even in China, they won't kill the witness just like that.

You're right. You'd never even hear about it in China. Just "vanish" like many of the lab researchers in Wuhan.....

[jpatter666]

Re: Beirut- What the heck was that?

Wrong, where we think people want to go and where people end up are two different things.



https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-d...ics-and-facts/

When it comes to migrants the USA his high in absolute terms, but is a country middling when compared to the population.

"The proportion of immigrants varies considerably from one country to another. In some, it exceeds half the population, while in others it is below 0.1%. Which countries have the most immigrants? Where do they come from? How are they distributed across the world? We provide here an overview of the number and share of immigrants in different countries around the world.

According to the United Nations, the United States has the highest number of immigrants (foreign-born individuals), with 48 million in 2015, five times more than in Saudi Arabia (11 million) and six times more than in Canada (7.6 million) (figure below). However, in proportion to their population size, these two countries have significantly more immigrants: 34% and 21%, respectively, versus 15% in the United States."

???

Irrelevant. Where people are now has nothing to do with where they would *want* to be.