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"They" are going to "invite" the Plebs to walk/Jog/Cycle/E-Cycle......but don't drive!!!!!!
As I said when I started riding Motorbike & later driving I guess about 25 million cars in the UK.
Now passing 40 million, the nation can NOT afford this....so not everyone driving now will be driving in 10 years.
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Life contains tradeoffs. Choices have consequences. We as a society have some ability to influence those choices, mostly through consumption decisions more than anything else (given our political choice influences have declined to being almost ineffective).
As we have discovered, if the world uses less of something the production of it also declines fairly rapidly. We saw that with thermal coal in the developed economies in the decade after the financial crisis, and we are seeing that with oil today.
I'm struck by how rapidly we seem to be moving back to 1960's vintage patterns of behaviour. It's almost worth a thread of its own to explore this topic.
One consequence of the choices being made in the developed economies today will be an acceleration of de-industrialization. We won't be bringing back heavy manufacturing from China in any big way. The focus will be much more on technology, pharmaceuticals, telecoms, robotics, 3-D printing...all the acceptably "clean" stuff. Especially manufacturing that requires more use of electrical power instead of energy in the form of large scale heat (e.g. blast furnaces for steel) which is where coal and petroleum excel.
Even the manufacturing of EVs won't be in Canada, UK, Australia, France, Italy, etc. All places that have historically had a significant car manufacturing activity. Tesla's move to install manufacturing in China is as solid an indication I can imagine to the pending end of making cars in a ridiculously expensive jurisdiction such as the Bay Area of California.
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Oh Look what is NOT happening
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-ne...a/roadster-ev/
John B Goodfellow had a few things to say about his battery tec.......like it will only last 7 years, ha ha ha..........if anyone should know it should be him.
So, er lets see the Model S came out in 2013 & REAL production in 2015.......so in the next 2 years we should start to see major battery fails every where.
Mike
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Originally posted by Mega View PostJohn B Goodfellow had a few things to say about his battery tec.......like it will only last 7 years, ha ha ha..........if anyone should know it should be him.
So, er lets see the Model S came out in 2013 & REAL production in 2015.......so in the next 2 years we should start to see major battery fails every where.
Mike
Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.
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Originally posted by Mega View PostOh Look what is NOT happening
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-ne...a/roadster-ev/
John B Goodfellow had a few things to say about his battery tec.......like it will only last 7 years, ha ha ha..........if anyone should know it should be him.
So, er lets see the Model S came out in 2013 & REAL production in 2015.......so in the next 2 years we should start to see major battery fails every where.
Mike
I thought I read somewhere a long time ago that the charge/dis-charge management systems for the batteries was one of Tesla's technical advantages, and that helped it achieve exceptional battery life.
As for the Roadster 2, the official unveil was in November 2017. The Canadian Tesla site is still advertising reservation deposits, including the extra expensive CAN $322,000 Founder's Series, which has a reservation = to the full price of the car. Can one actually take delivery of one of these now?
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Originally posted by shiny! View PostSo hybrid electrics last but pure plug-in electrics don't?
The difference is in a hybrid you are charging the battery while underway - both from the gasoline engine when it is running and from the regenerative braking. So there is no range limitation as long as you have gas in the tank. If the battery degrades slowly over time how would you notice?
In a plug-in if the battery degrades over time you will damn sure notice the reduced range. Just like my iPhone which won't make it through the day any longer.
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Originally posted by GRG55 View PostI don't think that is the difference.
The difference is in a hybrid you are charging the battery while underway - both from the gasoline engine when it is running and from the regenerative braking. So there is no range limitation as long as you have gas in the tank. If the battery degrades slowly over time how would you notice?
In a plug-in if the battery degrades over time you will damn sure notice the reduced range. Just like my iPhone which won't make it through the day any longer.
Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.
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Originally posted by GRG55 View PostI don't think that is the difference.
The difference is in a hybrid you are charging the battery while underway - both from the gasoline engine when it is running and from the regenerative braking. So there is no range limitation as long as you have gas in the tank. If the battery degrades slowly over time how would you notice?
In a plug-in if the battery degrades over time you will damn sure notice the reduced range. Just like my iPhone which won't make it through the day any longer.
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