Michael Moore has UPSET the Left

[Mega]

[shiny!]

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How fun!

[Mega]

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I think "Michael" is Working Class, Blue Collar FAR more than he is left wing........If you ever watch any video of the late Saul Alinsky you find the same thing.....Saul was totally against welfare, thought it was a scam.
Mike

[Mega]

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This "film" is also very well timed, with a depression coming "Green indulgence" along with SJW/MeToo/Woke will be put on the "Back burner".

Mike

[Mega]

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[GRG55]

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I don't normally watch videos. The information density isn't enough for the time invested compared to reading.
But at the urging of some friends I did watch this film.

A bit overly melodramatic in places. Short on solutions.
But the one thing I did take away. If you lacked conviction to own oil and gas companies before, you shouldn't have any qualms about that after watching Gibbs' and Moore's film. The world uses a lot of hydrocarbons. Even the renewable energy industry uses a lot of hydrocarbons. What a surprise, LOL.

[Mega]

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She made a few good points, I don't agree on Biomass & then she played the RACE CARD......which has reduced her to a SJW/Woke drone.

Mike

[globaleconomicollaps]

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She made a few good points, I don't agree on Biomass & then she played the RACE CARD......which has reduced her to a SJW/Woke drone.

Mike

I feel funny responding to our racist mascot on this but here goes. The Environmentalist movement is almost exclusively white and well to do. Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield ( the woman giving the critique) is guilty about her involvement in the movement and is trying to deflect well deserved criticism by blaming Micheal Moore for the same character fault. She draws attention to the fact that poor people of color are hurt more by the climate crisis than rich white people. Poor black people are hurt more by all life problems than rich white people. The real question is why don't poor people join the green movement? Dr. Gordon-Bloomfield and her trans-sexual life partner look kind of weird to most poor people. They have rich people concerns like "Which electric car should I buy?". Many of the solutions they propose to the global warming problem, such as getting people to live in smaller and less energy intensive housing ( see for instance the tiny house movement ), are austerity measures that will hit poor people the hardest. The take home message from this movie is that we need fewer people. This is an attack on poor people living mostly in Africa. In Europe where I live the population ex. immigration is in decline. In the US rich people stopped having babies years ago. The population continues to go up only because poor people make babies and immigrants are still coming in. So they quite correctly understand the environmentalist movement as elitist and racist.

This entire discussion is moot. The world is running out of easily accessible oil. It may not look like it right now but we got a glimpse of what is in store in 2008 when the oil price topped $160/barrel. The entire apple cart will topple when oil become unavailable or too expensive to run all the factories that make the things that we need. This is one of the things that the film got more or less right. The green movement is not in principle a stupid or deceitful idea. The problem is the execution. We fill up all of our open spaces with windmills and solar panels but we don't cut the cord to the coal power plant. The point is to do the "energy transition" while there is sufficient capital to complete the task. There will be a Energy Transition. The only thing we can do is make it a graceful one or do nothing and have a chaotic one. The film seems to be saying that the only choice is a chaotic transition. They could be right.

[Woodsman]

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I feel funny responding to our racist mascot on this but here goes...

You want to clarify that remark? Because it sounds to my ears like a slander. So just who exactly are you slandering here? Or do I misunderstand your attempt as humor?

[globaleconomicollaps]

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You want to clarify that remark? Because it sounds to my ears like a slander. So just who exactly are you slandering here? Or do I misunderstand your attempt as humor?

If it wasn't clear I am pointing out Mr. Mega. I'm just making a mark for posterity. Someday someone in the distant future will find this blog chiseled on a stone and I don't want them to think that every ituliper is a racist.

[Mega]

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I hope its not me?
I thought she did well in the 1st part of her post & thought she then expand with details.....sadly she waffled about Biomass then went full SJW & tried to paint the film as racist because there is not enough people in it with darker skin colour (like the ones mining the Cobalt for her EV).

I was disappointed she did this & thought she wouldn't step to such a "Cheap shot"......oh well

[Mega]

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For your information I worked with people all my life of all skin tones, found them to be outstanding.
I agree that some white ones (like those whom bully me at school or broke into my house or stole my car) are a problem.

Mike

[Woodsman]

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If it wasn't clear I am pointing out Mr. Mega. I'm just making a mark for posterity. Someday someone in the distant future will find this blog chiseled on a stone and I don't want them to think that every ituliper is a racist.

Well, aren't you noble. Something tells me you might be less noble were you in a position to say that to another man's face.

I might be inclined to ask that you back up that slander with some sort of evidence, but having shown yourself to be a contemptible worm of a man I'd give it no more consideration than a pile of dog squeeze. The pile, at least, is worth its weight as manure. Your opinions have yet to rise to such valuation.

[globaleconomicollaps]

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Well, aren't you noble. Something tells me you might be less noble were you in a position to say that to another man's face.

I might be inclined to ask that you back up that slander with some sort of evidence, but having shown yourself to be a contemptible worm of a man I'd give it no more consideration than a pile of dog squeeze. The pile, at least, is worth its weight as manure. Your opinions have yet to rise to such valuation.

Cool! Can I change my name to contemptible worm?

[Woodsman]

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Cool! Can I change my name to contemptible worm?

It suits you, certainly. But you might be better off asking someone who cares.