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    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...nment-11978474

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      Sweden stats, updated April 26:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_c...emic_in_Sweden

      Excerpt from Sweden Shatters Lock-down Model as Curves Stay Flat

      This is a partial transcript (with some comments by the reporter) of the April 22nd press conference of the Swedish Health Ministry.
      Sweden, led by Tegnell and his colleagues at FHM, went its own way, to the shock of the world, and created its own model to achieve national herd immunity. Moderate social distancing was advised (but not enforced) and the focus was on protecting the elderly. Businesses were advised to limit density of crowds, schools were not closed—life went on. It’s working.

      “The curve is very flat, really since the beginning of April and that’s very good news,” Tegnell said. “It’s very good news, there’s no rise in cases in Stockholm, at all.”

      This comes on the heels of 22 formidable doctors from Europe, opposing the engulfing Covid model and propaganda.

      One of them, renowned German infectious disease expert Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, called his government’s anti-Covid measures “grotesque, absurd and very dangerous. The life expectancy of millions is being shattered.” Referring to the impact on the world economy as “horrifying,” Bhakdi really did not mince words:

      “All these measures are leading to self destruction and collective suicide based on nothing but a spook.”

      Tegnell said Sweden has fanned out with regional testing, and they are finding that about 1/3 of the populations tested are positive and not sick, while 2/3 have never been exposed. “We’ve started testing a lot of healthcare professionals,” he said.

      Sweden does not count positive RNA PCR tests as “cases” but rather calculates case loads from patients presenting with acute symptoms to the emergency hospitals, known as “IVA.” Once again, Tegnell used the word “flat”

      “It’s rather flat. Looking at Sweden and the number of IVA cases, the IVA cases have not moved. We have 15,000 new cases reported and one thousand one hundred fifty eight people who have been treated at IVA so far.”

      The number of deaths, he said is very complex and hard to get at, because Sweden is still trying to toggle between the death registry and the IVA to see how many deaths may be COVID-19 and which ones are not. In Sweden, like it is in the rest of the world, those who died had co-morbid conditions, were over 65, and many over 80 or even 90 years old. The main comorbidities were diabetes, hypertension, chronic heart and lung conditions, and obesity. A total of 1536 sought medical care for COVID-19, and all told, 1209 people have been hospitalized. No children have gotten any form of what is called COVID-19 in Sweden.

      Tegnell pointed out that this data was evident from Wuhan and has remained consistent: Children neither spread it nor get it. He spoke of a school in Finland where a child was “infected” but nobody else at the school was infected. Nor did the child get sick. This circles back to our questions about the test itself, and the lack of a gold standard virus to work from.

      The deaths have been (as far as I can tell) entirely in the elderly and primarily those in nursing homes. Deaths from what? I need to call them “Ostensible COVID-19 Deaths.”

      First of all, how many have died in Sweden of Ostensible Covid (OC)? 100,000 are said to have died in all of Europe but that number is very questionable, since there is no agreed upon standard of determining a COVID-19 death from an influenza or multiple-underlying-causes pulmonary death.

      Tegnell said he and his team had begin testing sample populations that exhibited no symptoms. Over the past three weeks they have tested approximately 20,000 people per week, including health care workers, in various parts of Sweden. “It was about two and a half percent that tested positive,” Tegnell said. “If we let our statistical mathematicians calculate this, they’ve arrived that the most cases hit us on April 15th, a week ago and then the peak was reached. That doesn’t mean the spread stops, but that was the peak of the curve. This model also says that in a week, at around the first of May, about a third of Stockholm’s residents will have been exposed, but two thirds have not been exposed and can still be exposed. We also have studies that show that for every confirmed case, there are 999 others who have not sought medical care. Mild cases that have been cleared up at home. It speaks to that there are very many who never need a diagnosis. Diagnosis is not important. Those who need (go for) medical care get diagnosed.”

      “This modeling is consistent with the one presented last week by Thomas Britton. We will refine it as we get more data. We’re going to keep testing various regions of Sweden and see how many are sick and refine our modeling. We’re going to get more data for all of Sweden. And we’re going to do studies on immunity to see how many have already been exposed by measuring antibody reactions. All this points to understanding how we’re going to act, it’s also the basis of our strategy.”

      We will refine it as we get more data. We’re going to keep testing various regions of Sweden and see how many are sick and refine our modeling. We’re going to get more data for all of Sweden. And we’re going to do studies on immunity to see how many have already been exposed by measuring antibody reactions. All this points to understanding how we’re going to act, it’s also the basis of our strategy.”

      “Together we can stop the spread. Even if we’ve plateaued and it’s not increasing, that doesn’t mean there’s no spread. Like we said two-thirds can still be exposed, so stay home even if you feel a little bit sick. So, wash your hands with soap and water. If you’re seventy years or older, stay home and avoid contact with people.”

      Denmark is reportedly planning to allow gatherings of up to 500 people starting on May 11th. There were also questions about something being announced on April 30, to which Tegnell smiled wryly and said: “Ask the government,” suggesting that he does indeed have the full support and backing of Prime Minster Stefan Lofven, a Social Democrat.

      In other words, Sweden says, it’s not a case until somebody seeks treatment. Positive PCR tests (naturally) are emerging in other parts of the country, and the pattern emerging is that most who test positive have no symptoms. Addressing acute care (and contrast this with Andrew Cuomo’s daily morbid, self-important braying) Tegnell said:

      “As I said the IVA cases are at a very consistent level with possible decline of late. No dramatic changes there. Dead per day: we found—everybody who was reported as a COVID patient, we ran them in the computers against the death registry and we found some COVID deaths that were not reported earlier. [Retroactively, there was a slight spike.] We caught a few more cases that way. In conclusion, we’re following the blue curve, we’re under-capacity in the hospitals in Stockholm and the rest of Sweden. But to stay there, it’s important that we not lose these fundamental messages about staying home if you feel sick. And for those who are seventy or older, it’s important to reduce contact with different people. Do go out and exercise, but don’t go to places with a lot of people. Think about hygiene and social distancing so we stay on this curve.”

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      • #4
        Re: Sweden

        When the dust settles there will be one HELL of a row over this.............but "They" will have got want they wanted.

        Mike

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