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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-pressure.html

    I suspect this is a "Blag" for more reseach cash......

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    Air Plasma Jet Propulsion?

    Not fuel cell news, but microwave generated air plasma jet propulsion. They say they'll be able to generate thrust without fossil fuels by using electricity to generate microwaves to create the air plasma. But where does the electricity come from?

    https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_relea...-ffj050420.php

    News Release
    Fossil fuel-free jet propulsion with air plasmas

    A prototype design of a plasma jet thruster can generate thrusting pressures on the same magnitude a commercial jet engine can, using only air and electricity
    American Institute of Physics






    IMAGE: A schematic diagram of a prototype microwave air plasma thruster and the images of the bright plasma jet at different microwave powers. This device consists of a microwave power supply,... view more
    Credit: Jau Tang and Jun Li
    WASHINGTON, May 5, 2020 -- Humans depend on fossil fuels as their primary energy source, especially in transportation. However, fossil fuels are both unsustainable and unsafe, serving as the largest source of greenhouse gas emissions and leading to adverse respiratory effects and devastation due to global warming.

    A team of researchers at the Institute of Technological Sciences at Wuhan University has demonstrated a prototype device that uses microwave air plasmas for jet propulsion. They describe the engine in the journal AIP Advances, from AIP Publishing.

    "The motivation of our work is to help solve the global warming problems owing to humans' use of fossil fuel combustion engines to power machinery, such as cars and airplanes," said author Jau Tang, a professor at Wuhan University. "There is no need for fossil fuel with our design, and therefore, there is no carbon emission to cause greenhouse effects and global warming."

    Beyond solid, liquid and gas, plasma is the fourth state of matter, consisting of an aggregate of charged ions. It exists naturally in places like the sun's surface and Earth's lightning, but it can also be generated. The researchers created a plasma jet by compressing air into high pressures and using a microwave to ionize the pressurized air stream.

    This method differs from previous attempts to create plasma jet thrusters in one key way. Other plasma jet thrusters, like NASA's Dawn space probe, use xenon plasma, which cannot overcome the friction in Earth's atmosphere, and are therefore not powerful enough for use in air transportation. Instead, the authors' plasma jet thruster generates the high-temperature, high-pressure plasma in situ using only injected air and electricity.

    The prototype plasma jet device can lift a 1-kilogram steel ball over a 24-millimeter diameter quartz tube, where the high-pressure air is converted into a plasma jet by passing through a microwave ionization chamber. To scale, the corresponding thrusting pressure is comparable to a commercial airplane jet engine.

    By building a large array of these thrusters with high-power microwave sources, the prototype design can be scaled up to a full-sized jet. The authors are working on improving the efficiency of the device toward this goal.

    "Our results demonstrated that such a jet engine based on microwave air plasma can be a potentially viable alternative to the conventional fossil fuel jet engine," Tang said.
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    The article, "Jet propulsion by microwave air plasma in the atmosphere," is authored by Dan Ye, Jun Li and Jau Tang. The article will appear in AIP Advances on May 5, 2020 (DOI: 10.1063/5.0005814). After that date, it can be accessed at http://aip.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1063/5.0005814.
    ABOUT THE JOURNAL
    AIP Advances is an open access journal publishing in all areas of physical sciences--applied, theoretical, and experimental. The inclusive scope of AIP Advances makes it an essential outlet for scientists across the physical sciences. See https://aip.scitation.org/journal/adv.

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      Re: Air Plasma Jet Propulsion?

      Originally posted by shiny! View Post
      They say they'll be able to generate thrust without fossil fuels by using electricity to generate microwaves to create the air plasma. But where does the electricity come from?

      https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_relea...-ffj050420.php
      Excellent question. It's a case of silo mentality that stops people thinking beyond the point of energy consumption.

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        Re: Air Plasma Jet Propulsion?

        Originally posted by sunpearl71 View Post
        Excellent question. It's a case of silo mentality that stops people thinking beyond the point of energy consumption.
        This is my question whenever EV's are touted as solutions for going "carbonless." They think the electricity was generated in the plug socket from nothing but air? The ingredients to make up the battery came from a sprinkling of magic fairy dust?

        Unless propulsion technologies, whether from batteries, microwaves, solar panels or whatever, can be created without without using carbon-based fuel at any point in their manufacturing and transportation, without causing harm to people and the environment (like mining for rare earth materials), then this idea of a carbonless green utopia is bogus. A feel-good myth for wealthy first-worlders, while a huge part the world's people are still cooking over dung fires.

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