Airbone Bloodbath

[FrankL]

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Precisely how would you define a "well run carrier" in the airline business?

Ok maybe they fall in gradations of very bad (Alitalia) to bad (Air France) to less bad (IAG and Easyjet supposedly are/were reasonable profitable).

In any scenario, I don't see RyanAir growing much further or at least not cannibalizing figures of other carriers. Their business concept attracts a whole different type of passenger.

I've mentioned before that I think Easyjet will do well post Covid, as they offer no-frills flights on major airports in Europe that are pretty descent if you have 'speedy boarding' and they have relatively new planes.

[Mega]

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[Mega]

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Oh Dear, it doesn't rain for Boeing, it pours!

How much have they poured into 777X ....?
Still no light at the end of the tunnel for the 737 Max ......massive law suits .......massive stocks of plane for soon to be bankrupt airlines......can it get any worst?


Everyone wants small easy to fill planes......the airbus 220 is a beautiful plane & with out a Boeing version.......

[jk]

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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.952941)]The Compass Lexecon study showed that, between 1990 and 2016, the domestic price per mile to fly decreased by 40 percent (and by 36 percent when you factor in fees). At the same time, fuel costs have risen for airlines by 110 percent since 1998, and airlines faced sharp drops in demand during the Great Recession of 2008-2009.
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people who pay for their own tickets in general want cheap. and they've gotten it.[/COLOR]

[GRG55]

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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.952941)]The Compass Lexecon study showed that, between 1990 and 2016, the domestic price per mile to fly decreased by 40 percent (and by 36 percent when you factor in fees). At the same time, fuel costs have risen for airlines by 110 percent since 1998, and airlines faced sharp drops in demand during the Great Recession of 2008-2009.
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people who pay for their own tickets in general want cheap. and they've gotten it.[/COLOR]

The commoditizing of air travel. By the low cost, no-frills carriers.

Freddie Laker, Don Burr and Herb Kelleher were all a bit ahead of their time. Only the last one got the formula right. And the others that followed (Ryanair, Easyjet, Westjet, Air Asia...) have generally stuck close to that business model.

Certainly the low cost carriers now dominate air travel volume worldwide. Will there be enough income in that demographic after the virus runs its course to keep the low cost carriers airborne?

Will the full service carriers lose their top tier fares to private aviation charters in the aftermath of the virus?

Interesting times ahead...

[Mega]

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...et-orders-dry/

[Mega]

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/ma...ted-speed.html

[Mega]

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[Mega]

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wners-IAG.html

[Mega]

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Do not expect a return to normal flight volume till 2023 or longer!!!!!

[GRG55]

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Do not expect a return to normal flight volume till 2023 or longer!!!!!

It took two years for air traffic to return to prior volumes after 9/11...and back then only the USA shut down it's air traffic system. And that was for a short duration. So 2023 may be optimistic.

[Mega]

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.............I er wonder what progress on the project for a 3rd runway at Heathrow is going? ;)

[Mega]

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-quarter.html

Same news but the "sheep" are getting told now...........this will not end well

[Mega]

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[Mega]

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...ge-air-travel/