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  • #76
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    Others not 100% either

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIVUpx8pawI


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    • #77
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      This is a dashboard from Johns Hopkins


      https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

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      • #78
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        Mean time in Sweden
        https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...id-19-11968101

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        • #79
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          Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
          This is a dashboard from Johns Hopkins


          https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
          My problem with the Johns Hopkins map is that those blobs only depict infections but not recoveries. If they're going to show huge, scary blobs of infections, then they should also either reduce the blobs to reflect the "spread of recoveries" or draw a second map to depict recoveries. Otherwise it looks extremely one-sided and has the effect of scare-mongering.

          EDIT: I see that they do have a tab for a map that shows recoveries. But the map with the big, scary red blobs is the one that always gets shown.
          Last edited by shiny!; April 03, 2020, 02:07 PM.

          Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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          • #80
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            Originally posted by shiny! View Post
            My problem with the Johns Hopkins map is that those blobs only depict infections but not recoveries. If they're going to show huge, scary blobs of infections, then they should also either reduce the blobs to reflect the "spread of recoveries" or draw a second map to depict recoveries. Otherwise it looks extremely one-sided and has the effect of scare-mongering.
            Good point shiny.

            The bit I like most is the chart in the lower right corner. As I switch from country to country on the left hand side, we can look for countries where the exponential curve of confirmed cases has tipped over and is no longer experiencing explosive growth, like South Korea.

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            • #81
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              • #82
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                Originally posted by Mega View Post
                scary and moving

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                • #83
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                  Can you believe how crazy this is? This gent needs to bone up on his rational analysis skills. The insanity of common sense is leading him to some dark conclusions.


                  ... Yet, in spite of COVID-19 being deemed infectious enough for WHO to declare a global health emergency, and Trump to declare a public health emergency, American citizens were evacuated from ground zero in Wuhan China and flown to March Air Reserve Base in Southern California. Additionally, over “300 U.S. citizens and their immediate family members” were transported from the Diamond Princess ship to Travis Air Force Base in Northern California, Lackland Air Force Base in Texas, and the University of Nebraska.

                  Next, the Center for Disease Control (CDC) released a COVID-19 infected former Diamond Princess passenger who was “mistakenly” allowed to spend two hours at a San Antonio mall.

                  These are the paradoxes of the Coronavirus pandemic: We were told the virus was extremely contagious and, yet, just as global and national health emergencies were declared, Americans infected with COVID-19 were repatriated to four (4) separate locations around the United States simultaneously.

                  Even now, all across America… bars, restaurants, and small businesses are shuttered as no more than 10 people are allowed to gather together at any given time. But, American’s First Amendment Right to Free Assembly remains viable at Wal-Mart. No problem there. And grocery stores are also deemed “essential” around the country – even as “dead bodies are loaded into refrigerated trucks outside New York hospitals”... when you think about it, hasn’t hysteria and emotionalism been utilized throughout history to hasten the agendas of collectivism? In America, the most recent histrionics have been over climate change, identity politics, gun control, Orange Man bad, Russian election hacking, Judge Kavanaugh rape fantasies, Ukraine, impeachment, and… now… social distancing. But where the former fell short, the last one has succeeded; a Hail Mary, as it were.

                  April Fools: In the New Age of Deception, Coronavirus has Hastened the Old Collectivism


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                  • #84
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                    All Eyes will be on Sweden .......if walk though this with same or LESS deaths than everyone else & NO 2ND Wave......then there will be Hell to pay.
                    World leaders will be Like General Westmoreland in "Nam" looking for a high body count!

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                    • #85
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                      Have we been had to an extent? Ya......Nah.......kinda maybe. Please watch.

                      https://youtu.be/WqLW2aadjg8

                      My high school aged son has been raising show pigs every year since he was 9 and every year we have had to treat one or two of them for PRCS (Porcine Respiratory Coronaviruses in Swine). Wildlife animals as they say are a different story but in domesticated livestock (dogs, sheep, cows, pigs) coronaviruses have never been known to jump to humans. (Thankfully.)

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                      • #86
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                        Originally posted by strittmatter View Post
                        Have we been had to an extent? Ya......Nah.......kinda maybe...)
                        Oh yeah, we have.



                        And no shortage of brilliant and highly credentialed clowns steeped in normalcy bias to assure you to ignore those lying eyes of yours.

                        How many would you sacrifice? I don't know, how many you got?

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                        • #87
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                          Good write up:-
                          https://www.zerohedge.com/health/fiv...about-covid-19

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                          • #88
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                            Originally posted by Mega View Post
                            Lockdown science has reached climate science levels of unquestioned adherence, with similarly hysterical demands for compliance.

                            But you got to look at if from their perspective. Everybody has to lock down. If any one place holds out, then there will be a control group that we can test their claims against. That's probably why they're coming down so hard on Sweden. Cat's out of the bag, otherwise.

                            Not really, though. The sheep swallow whatever they're fed and bleat what they're told.

                            O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”

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                            • #89
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                              Originally posted by Woodsman View Post
                              Lockdown science has reached climate science levels of unquestioned adherence, with similarly hysterical demands for compliance.

                              But you got to look at if from their perspective. Everybody has to lock down. If any one place holds out, then there will be a control group that we can test their claims against. That's probably why they're coming down so hard on Sweden. Cat's out of the bag, otherwise.

                              Not really, though. The sheep swallow whatever they're fed and bleat what they're told.
                              Maybe I should point out the Korea, the poster child for covid19 recovery, has never had a general lock-down. The police state measures in Korea are very much reminiscent of 1984 but the economy has not been shut down.


                              The president of Benin gave a speech yesterday in which he said that Benin does not have any way to lock-down the country. It looks to me like there will be many "controls".

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu15eb_6NoM

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                              • #90
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                                Originally posted by globaleconomicollaps View Post
                                ...The president of Benin gave a speech yesterday in which he said that Benin does not have any way to lock-down the country. It looks to me like there will be many "controls".
                                I saw a newscast recently that used Ecuador to make a similar case. Benin and Ecuador. Not exactly an apples to apples comparison in terms of American medical capacity, expertise, ability to walk and chew gum simultaneously, and any other metric you can think of.

                                But other than that, yeah sure.

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