Facebook gave device makers deep access to data on users and friends

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ends-data.html

This coupled, with the cover story of the surveillance state in the latest Economist magazine, is chilling to comprehend.

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ends-data.html

This coupled, with the cover story of the surveillance state in the latest Economist magazine, is chilling to comprehend.

I couldn't agree more. We are moving into what may be a truly frightening world with zero personal privacy.

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my son was recently in beijing for work. he was very impressed by the enormous and comprehensive system of surveillance cameras. couple that with some ai.... [he was also impressed by the air pollution]

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Re: Facebook gave device makers deep access to data on users and friends

my son was recently in beijing for work. he was very impressed by the enormous and comprehensive system of surveillance cameras. couple that with some ai.... [he was also impressed by the air pollution]

Welcome to the "new world order".

A lot of people don't understand what the new world order represents.

They only see this.

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my son was recently in beijing for work. he was very impressed by the enormous and comprehensive system of surveillance cameras. couple that with some ai.... [he was also impressed by the air pollution]

When I first moved to the Persian Gulf my English and American neighbours were very emphatic about how they enjoyed the safe environment in that little Kingdom compared to back home. Kids could ride their bikes to school and back unescorted. Property theft and breakins were unheard of, car theft was non-existent, and so forth.

One of my responsibilities was overseeing a joint venture with the State Natural Gas company. Not long after arriving I was invited to its annual employee safety awards banquet. While sitting in the ballroom of one of those extraordinarily posh Arab hotels I could not help but notice the plethora of security cameras everywhere around the premises. So this naive Canadian leaned over and whispered to the company's English-expat Controller "If this place is so safe, why do they need all these cameras". Came back the answer "Now you know why it's so safe".

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Re: Facebook gave device makers deep access to data on users and friends

When I first moved to the Persian Gulf my English and American neighbours were very emphatic about how they enjoyed the safe environment in that little Kingdom compared to back home. Kids could ride their bikes to school and back unescorted. Property theft and breakins were unheard of, car theft was non-existent, and so forth.

One of my responsibilities was overseeing a joint venture with the State Natural Gas company. Not long after arriving I was invited to its annual employee safety awards banquet. While sitting in the ballroom of one of those extraordinarily posh Arab hotels I could not help but notice the plethora of security cameras everywhere around the premises. So this naive Canadian leaned over and whispered to the company's English-expat Controller "If this place is so safe, why do they need all these cameras". Came back the answer "Now you know why it's so safe".

Canada is a nice country, people are nice and people don't steal or rob because they know it is morally wrong to do so. Of course, there's a minority that don't think this way.

But in authoritarian countries, people don't steal or rob because they are taught from young that there is very severe punishment for it and condemnation for life, e.g. right hand cut off. The security cameras are meant to show that you are being watched and if you commit a crime, retribution will come soon. And the list of crimes usually include criticism of the government, which may result in punishment that is more severe than theft.

Because there is punishment or penalty for making any mistake, people become so afraid of doing the wrong thing and over time they ignore anything that is not their business, afraid of being implicated or getting into trouble with the law. Many are in fact scared of going to the police station even as a witness.