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  • #16
    Re: The Universe is a Cloud of Surplus proton Energy

    Originally posted by Techdread View Post
    Chris with respect your book is a theory, if it is correct you will be credited even if posthumously I don't think I needed to tell you that.

    It is up to you to show that your theory is a better account of how gravity works not for the royal society or any other organization to do the research because of your book though having said that someone may pick the mantle.

    I have heard of a theory and experiment that seems to tally with your double split explanation but can't find it I think the article was written in The Economist magazine.
    Hi Techdread,

    It seems to be very difficult to get across why I have reached my decisions. All I can say is that a lifetime of working within this particular working environment has taught me that conventional science has no intention of accepting anything I have written; none! Yet, at one and the same time, many little things have equally convinced me that they all know full well what I have written and the implications for their own work.

    A Cambridge scientist that had a web page with an illustration, beside which he had written that no one knew why we see what he had illustrated. When I tried to debate with him, while at the same time explaining my new theories, brought silence and the web page disappeared.

    Scientific American no less, right after my earlier edition, The Universe is a Cloud, some raw food for thought, was published, with an image of a Planetary Nebula by Prof. Bruce Balick; published The Extraordinary Deaths of Ordinary Stars, by Bruce Balick and Adam Frank, 10 pages of it, the authors ending with this statement:

    "New information ultimately upends the best of theories in every field of research. That is the nature of progress. Discovery is often disruptive. It clears out old niches and prepares the way for big (and often disorienting) leaps forward. Scientific theories are built to be used, but they must be mistrusted, tested and improved."

    As my first work already has a detailed description of what causes the likes of a planetary nebula to occur, where their article makes it clear they do not have a detailed explanation, that they only understand certain aspects of the interaction of another object in close orbit. So, as I had already received permission from Balick to use his image and thus had already communicated with him, I emailed him to ask for the chance to talk to him. His answer; No time, too busy, good luck.

    Scientific American must have known about my work, to have permitted that statement to be included. Total silence. Draft of a later edition delivered, total silence again.

    Len Sugerman, a Past President of the US Institute of Navigation, at the time a revered member of the staff of New Mexico State University, took my earlier book to a senior cosmologist in NMSU, and later went back with a local radio reporter. The cosmologist stated: "Would you give publicity to someone that claimed to have created a cure for cancer, that is all I am going to say."

    I got thrown off the web site Universe Today where "Big Bang is a done deal. Period!

    I spent 3 months sleeping on the sofa of Donald L. Birx apartment while he was searching for a home for his family in Houston, (he had just been appointed President of research for the Houston University System, and I had just arrived there with a 1 Ton steel bar to try and carry out some related experiments). The physics department would not let me work and I discovered that I was being treated as though a mad man. Yes, in the last ten days I was given an area in the basement of the Mechanical Engineering Department by Prof. Mathew Franchek, the dept head, but did not have time to finish. Though I did confirm that there is an observable effect when you pass a light beam under a large mass object. As far as I know, the steel bar is still there. I did try and persuade some of the students to carry on but nothing.

    It has become very clear to me that conventional science today absolutely refuses to look at new thinking. That a scientist that tries to support you places their whole career in absolute danger. Again and Again, I have had my attempt to open a conversation dead ended by people that see me as a danger to themselves. I have no intention of trying to damage anyone by asking them for support.

    Conventional science simply does not want to know about any new thinking. Most are clearly afraid of damaging their careers. Those that have helped, Donald L. Birx is a good example, and for whom I am deeply grateful, yet even he has been unable to find support for me amongst others surrounding him , and like most, he has his own family responsibilities, and thus cannot stick his neck out. He is now President of Plymouth State University. if it were so easy to set such research into motion, you tell me why he has not done so; I can tell you; he would risk his career. Period!

    Last September I set out to sort out all the many copyright requests for short passages by others, that I have presented in my book to support my theories. By early November, while still in conversation with several, (it takes at least 8 weeks to gain such approval), someone got into my PC and deliberately damaged the reproducibility of the images in the book file. The book has 216 illustrations, it was quite amazing what happened, all sorts of degradation occurred, then the software started to give me repeated blue screen crashes. My entire system became unstable. So it became clear that someone was doing their best to prevent me publishing the book. It has taken me 4 months to sort it out.

    I have no funding, no facilities, no prospect of gaining any access to any support here in the UK. All I can do is encourage others to read the book and try and make their own way forward. Here it is too easy to treat new thinking as a joke, as though made by an idiot. And in which case, it does explain why, after all, I have reached the point where I myself lash out with derision towards a group who refuse any new thinking. So in truth, I am deeply unhappy with my own reaction to all the derisive refusals to help from conventional science. Not the very best place to be I fully admit.

    And I am reminded to also tell you about another example. Professor Eric Laithwaite was the inventor of the linear motor; one the the UK's greatest scientists. Asked to present the Royal Institution Christmas Lectures to children over the Christmas holidays. He decided to devote them to asking questions about the actions of gyroscopes that he did not understand, and where he openly debated that science did not know what was going on. That destroyed his career. His are the only lectures never published. They cut him dead.

    There are, to this day, web pages dedicated to him http://rense.com/general42/genius.htm

    There are many potential experiments in my book, it is for others to carry them forward. My role was to set out the detail, but in so doing, I too, just like Laithwaite, am seen as a crank. Thus there is no prospect of anything I do being seen as acceptable. No one ever funds a crank.

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    • #17
      Re: The Universe is a Cloud of Surplus proton Energy

      Originally posted by DSpencer View Post
      Probably because it's already been done and the results disprove his theory. Double slit experiments with electrons have been done in vacuum chambers. It's not really necessary to do with photons as they can travel through air mostly undisturbed. The fact that you can see clearly is all you need to understand why his theory is nonsensical. If photons were being scattered by columns of force field attachments in a "totally random manner" it would be pretty hard to see anything.
      Wonderful, without reading the book, with no sense at all of the detailed explanations involved, you place my theories into the mental dustbin. A classic demonstration of how to bad mouth a theory while never taking the trouble to understand it. In a way, I thank you; all you do is give a marvelous demonstration of a closed mind. "He must be wrong, I cannot see how otherwise so dismiss it at first glance".

      My challenge is to you in particular. Read the book and then come back and debate. When you do so you will discover that the electromagnetic force field attachments between protons and adjacent proton's electrons carry all other dynamic energy; photons and electrons, where the photon is a result of the interactions of the constantly changing attachments, and the electrons are simply the result of the induction caused by the electromagnetic force field attachments passing each other. (Always remembering that a positive field repels another and thus, where they repel, they thus slide past each other causing classic induction), no different than passing two electrically charged wires past each other to achieve the same result.

      So your electron is just another result of the dynamic system in motion and will, inevitably, be affected by the interaction with the attachment force columns as they pass through towards the screen. The electron is an induced energy source traveling along those same attachments; while the photon is a ripple of dynamic energy, caused by the constant change in the attachments between protons, traveling along the same pathways.

      Read the book.

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      • #18
        Re: The Universe is a Cloud of Surplus proton Energy

        Thought the first post had disappeared so this one deleted.

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        • #19
          Re: The Universe is a Cloud of Surplus proton Energy

          Originally posted by Chris Coles View Post
          Wonderful, without reading the book, with no sense at all of the detailed explanations involved, you place my theories into the mental dustbin. A classic demonstration of how to bad mouth a theory while never taking the trouble to understand it. In a way, I thank you; all you do is give a marvelous demonstration of a closed mind. "He must be wrong, I cannot see how otherwise so dismiss it at first glance".

          My challenge is to you in particular. Read the book and then come back and debate. When you do so you will discover that the electromagnetic force field attachments between protons and adjacent proton's electrons carry all other dynamic energy; photons and electrons, where the photon is a result of the interactions of the constantly changing attachments, and the electrons are simply the result of the induction caused by the electromagnetic force field attachments passing each other. (Always remembering that a positive field repels another and thus, where they repel, they thus slide past each other causing classic induction), no different than passing two electrically charged wires past each other to achieve the same result.

          So your electron is just another result of the dynamic system in motion and will, inevitably, be affected by the interaction with the attachment force columns as they pass through towards the screen. The electron is an induced energy source traveling along those same attachments; while the photon is a ripple of dynamic energy, caused by the constant change in the attachments between protons, traveling along the same pathways.

          Read the book.
          Would you pay $25 to read 500+ pages about how the earth is flat?

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          • #20
            Re: The Universe is a Cloud of Surplus proton Energy

            Originally posted by DSpencer View Post
            Would you pay $25 to read 500+ pages about how the earth is flat?
            And I thought I was the only poor individual here on iTulip; so now you want me to give you the book. I take my hat off to you. .

            Now we understand how new thinking is received here in the 21st Century; exactly as it has always been received; except this time you cannot burn me at the stake. You can only try to burn me with words. You need to read Innovation, The Creative impulse in Human Progress by William Kingston, Trinity College Dublin, where he describes the full range of people, from the thinker who is so enamored of their own thoughts, they cannot communicate, instead gripped in their thoughts; to the Mandarin, unable to contemplate new thinking for fear it will totally destabilize their own working environment. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Innovation-.../dp/0972648429

            Oh! And I published it.

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            • #21
              Re: The Universe is a Cloud of Surplus proton Energy

              If truth to be told i am sceptical of your theory too, However a lot of your ideas and solutions for our economic malaise are very good.
              Also explanations for gravity are not conclusive.

              There must be data that can prove or disprove your theory in astronomy.
              Could you not compare the light bending properties of a magnestar and a normal neutron star as if I have your theory correct the former would bend light more?

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              • #22
                Re: The Universe is a Cloud of Surplus proton Energy

                ok found a paper on this.

                https://arxiv.org/pdf/1101.3433.pdf

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                • #23
                  Re: The Universe is a Cloud of Surplus proton Energy

                  Originally posted by Chris Coles View Post
                  And I thought I was the only poor individual here on iTulip; so now you want me to give you the book. I take my hat off to you. .

                  Now we understand how new thinking is received here in the 21st Century; exactly as it has always been received; except this time you cannot burn me at the stake. You can only try to burn me with words. You need to read Innovation, The Creative impulse in Human Progress by William Kingston, Trinity College Dublin, where he describes the full range of people, from the thinker who is so enamored of their own thoughts, they cannot communicate, instead gripped in their thoughts; to the Mandarin, unable to contemplate new thinking for fear it will totally destabilize their own working environment. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Innovation-.../dp/0972648429

                  Oh! And I published it.
                  Since I am not willing to waste my time or money reading junk science, you conclude I must be poor. Since no credible scientist takes your theories seriously, you conclude there must be a vast conspiracy to suppress your ideas.

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                  • #24
                    Re: The Universe is a Cloud of Surplus proton Energy

                    Originally posted by Techdread View Post
                    If truth to be told i am sceptical of your theory too, However a lot of your ideas and solutions for our economic malaise are very good.
                    Also explanations for gravity are not conclusive.

                    There must be data that can prove or disprove your theory in astronomy.
                    Could you not compare the light bending properties of a magnestar and a normal neutron star as if I have your theory correct the former would bend light more?
                    You have yet to discover that I devote a full chapter to the evolution of the visible structure of M51 the Whirlpool Galaxy and another chapter to the evolution of the structure of SN1987A. Again, if you look up the book, Waves and Ripples in Water Air and Aether; being a course of Christmas Lectures delivered at the Royal Institution of Great Britain, Society for promoting Christian Knowledge 1912, you will discover that some of what I have recently discovered was fully covered by those lectures nearly a century ago. It is not Space Time, but variations in density that bends all waves, including photons, so you will be correct, the greater the mass of an object, the greater the distortion of the line of passage of a photon past the object. The underlying reason being that as mass and thus gravity increases, the greater the density of the force field attachments at the surface of the object.

                    No one can give a detailed explanation on what gravity is and how it works with a few paragraphs herein; it took me from the outset of this particular adventure in 1998 to now to write it all up. 61 chapters, 216 illustrations and even now I have only been able to scratch the surface of the debate.

                    The primary events were; discovering that no one had fully thought through the implications for the event horizon being a fixed point, mathematically, that that point does not move once reached; that the conventional description of the electromagnetic properties of the proton, does not conform to the rules for electromagnetism as laid down by James Clerk Maxwell; and that everyone had, it would appear, misunderstood the meaning of three words written by Isaac Newton in 1688, the latter requiring fourteen pages dedicated to excerpts from his Principia and from that of A. S. Ramsey M.A. with his Introduction to the Theory of Newtonian Attraction, Cambridge University Press 1952. That particular chapter taking up 46 pages of the book.

                    Earlier today, an elderly neighbour, retired Head Mistress of considerable stature here in my local community, to whom I gave a copy of the penultimate Proof, rang me up to say she was delighted with the manner of my writing, which made it easy to understand, for those not normally conversant with such subjects. If an 86 year old lady can understand and enjoy reading it, why not you too?

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                    • #25
                      Re: The Universe is a Cloud of Surplus proton Energy

                      Originally posted by DSpencer View Post
                      Since I am not willing to waste my time or money reading junk science, you conclude I must be poor. Since no credible scientist takes your theories seriously, you conclude there must be a vast conspiracy to suppress your ideas.
                      You were the one that mentioned the price, as though it was a barrier, not me. Again,I have not said "no credible scientist takes my theories seriously," as I do have some very credible supporters. It is just that you seem to be able to demonstrate, very clearly, what is in point of fact; a generally negative view towards new thinking and all I have done is show you that you are not alone in doing so...

                      No one can suppress the printed word; it is out and being read; time will tell if I am correct or not; admittedly, more time than I have left here on this planet. Such is life!

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                      • #26
                        Re: The Universe is a Cloud of Surplus proton Energy

                        Originally posted by Techdread View Post
                        ok found a paper on this.

                        https://arxiv.org/pdf/1101.3433.pdf

                        A very pertinent find, thank you. Several of my proposed experiments are designed to deliver a result to the questions raised in the first paragraph; indeed, I am sure that they will.

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                        • #27
                          Re: The Universe is a Cloud of Surplus proton Energy

                          Originally posted by Chris Coles View Post
                          Again,I have not said "no credible scientist takes my theories seriously," as I do have some very credible supporters.
                          What credible physicists believe your theory?

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                          • #28
                            Re: The Universe is a Cloud of Surplus proton Energy

                            Originally posted by DSpencer View Post
                            What credible physicists believe your theory?
                            What, so you can set about bad mouthing them too? You keep looking for something to depreciate; clearly have no intention of reading the book; now you want to go after my friends? Please, get a life!

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                            • #29
                              Re: The Universe is a Cloud of Surplus proton Energy

                              Originally posted by Chris Coles View Post
                              What, so you can set about bad mouthing them too? You keep looking for something to depreciate; clearly have no intention of reading the book; now you want to go after my friends? Please, get a life!
                              Stated another way: There are no credible physicists that believe your theory. You keep implying that I'm only interested in personally attacking you. You should note that my first post said nothing about you and dealt directly with experiments that refute your theory. You replied with a personal attack and then a word salad that did not directly address the point being made.

                              If you want to talk theory. Provide a direct answer to two simple questions:

                              1. You claim that gravity is really the positive surplus charge of protons that is attracting electrons from other atoms. If this is true, then matter should have a net positive force and repel rather than attract. Your theory predicts the exact opposite of what gravity does. How do you explain this?

                              2. Electromagnetic forces can be shielded. If gravity is actually just electromagnetism, why can't it be shielded as well? Why isn't a Faraday cage also an anti-gravity cage?

                              Your theories are not actually new and disruptive. They are old and disproved. It's offensive to all the honest and hardworking real physicists to call into question their integrity or motives because they won't give publicity to your pseudoscience. You bring up Eric Laithwaite in an earlier post and mention how he was shunned for his views on gyroscopes and his claims that they violated Newton's Laws. It's important to mention why he was shunned: because he was wrong. He even later admitted that gyroscopes do in fact obey Newton's Laws of Motion.

                              Science does not advance by spending our limited resources disproving the same theories over and over. If you took the time and effort to understand modern physics you would realize that your theory does not fit the existing data. Your lack of resources is a lame excuse. Quantum Electrodynamics is one of the most precise theories ever created. The accuracy of it's predictions compared to real world experiments is astounding. Instead of putting in the work to understand the theory, learn the math and formulate theories that fit with actual data, you simply plug your ears and pretend it doesn't exist. Then you have the nerve to claim that other people aren't open to new ways of thinking? You're so closed minded that you literally reject every respectable physicists' views in order to push your own amateur theories. If you want to open minds, start by opening your own mind to the possibility that you are just wrong.

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                              • #30
                                Re: The Universe is a Cloud of Surplus proton Energy

                                Originally posted by DSpencer View Post
                                Stated another way: There are no credible physicists that believe your theory. You keep implying that I'm only interested in personally attacking you. You should note that my first post said nothing about you and dealt directly with experiments that refute your theory. You replied with a personal attack and then a word salad that did not directly address the point being made.

                                If you want to talk theory. Provide a direct answer to two simple questions:

                                1. You claim that gravity is really the positive surplus charge of protons that is attracting electrons from other atoms. If this is true, then matter should have a net positive force and repel rather than attract. Your theory predicts the exact opposite of what gravity does. How do you explain this?

                                2. Electromagnetic forces can be shielded. If gravity is actually just electromagnetism, why can't it be shielded as well? Why isn't a Faraday cage also an anti-gravity cage?

                                Your theories are not actually new and disruptive. They are old and disproved. It's offensive to all the honest and hardworking real physicists to call into question their integrity or motives because they won't give publicity to your pseudoscience. You bring up Eric Laithwaite in an earlier post and mention how he was shunned for his views on gyroscopes and his claims that they violated Newton's Laws. It's important to mention why he was shunned: because he was wrong. He even later admitted that gyroscopes do in fact obey Newton's Laws of Motion.

                                Science does not advance by spending our limited resources disproving the same theories over and over. If you took the time and effort to understand modern physics you would realize that your theory does not fit the existing data. Your lack of resources is a lame excuse. Quantum Electrodynamics is one of the most precise theories ever created. The accuracy of it's predictions compared to real world experiments is astounding. Instead of putting in the work to understand the theory, learn the math and formulate theories that fit with actual data, you simply plug your ears and pretend it doesn't exist. Then you have the nerve to claim that other people aren't open to new ways of thinking? You're so closed minded that you literally reject every respectable physicists' views in order to push your own amateur theories. If you want to open minds, start by opening your own mind to the possibility that you are just wrong.
                                In one sense, your criticism of me is valid, I am sensitive to criticism, it is true, so first I apologise for giving any offense; it was not my intention to offend.

                                Let me try and give an answer to your two questions. Before I do, my theories do not relate to mathematics, though I have offered some where I felt it was needed to support my work. Instead they form a logical debate about the underlying principles. That journey, as a thought exercise, has been entirely as, (you are correct), an amateur, totally unsupervised; the work has not been produced with anyone looking over my shoulder giving advice; though some have read what I have written and given a point of view.

                                Again, it is true that I do believe that I sweep away much of the work upon which you seem to have based your own career. I make no apologies for that. What I am or were I have come from are surely irrelevant; what matters is the strength of my thinking, the quality of the theoretical debate? It is clear that you are deeply challenged by my having the temerity to suggest that you are wrong and I am right. On that I cannot help at all; all I can do is state my own case and live with the consequences of others difficulties with what I have written.

                                On one point I am very clear; my new model for the electromagnetic force field structure of the proton is completely new. My proton is entirely formed from an inviolably attached electromagnetic force field. So, with the greatest of respects, I am not describing others old ideas. My theory encompasses a completely new structure for the proton.

                                1. My starting point for my thinking about the proton was the realisation that, if the proton is so strongly positive, repelling another, yet the full force of that positive field is believed, does not extend beyond the orbit of the electron; then the proton must also have, within it's structure, access to a negative, other than the electron. So I came up with a step by step debate regarding a proton that was constructed from an inviolably attached electromagnetic force field; where that force field is attached to a minute dipole at it's heart. The source of the proton is another matter that I am not going to elaborate here.

                                Maxwell states that a positive field seeks the closest negative potential or extends to infinity, so in which case, taking an object, for a thought demonstration, say, a penny, held in your hand; where one face is positive and the other face negative, and you place that as a dipole into an electromagnetic force field. In such a field, that field will seek the shortest distance between the two faces, for the full circumference of the penny. However, as you increase the field strength, that attachment will, layer upon layer, (assuming that the field is of sufficient strength), form an series of layers from the positive to the negative, until we reach that point where they repel to form a core of repulsion from the surface of the negative face, (and the positive too), out to the outer surface of the so attached field layers. Again, the outer diametre of the attached field is much greater than the distance between the two poles of the dipole; which makes the attachment inviolable. Once attached it stays attached, forming a spring that can be further compressed to form the neutron.

                                In my model for the proton, at that outer surface of the core of repulsion, sits what is described as an electron. Of even greater importance, that core of repulsion forms a classic capillary tube, with at it's heart, all the way back to the surface of the dipole, the negative required to form the structure of the proton in the first place. That that negative is thus projected out to the outer surface of the proton to form the electron; and it is simple capillary attraction that attracts the adjacent positive electromagnetic force field of another proton.

                                This not about the repulsion of the positive field against the repulsion of another positive field; it is all about the attachment of a positive field to that negative capillary tube, where, just as with any other, the capillary tube causes an attraction of whatever substance it placed near enough to be attracted into it. It is that simple action of the capillary that creates the force we all describe as gravity.

                                Now you will have to appreciate that I have reduced the entire debate into what are a few lines herein; in my book I take many chapters, stage by stage, to bring the whole into complete focus. To debate with me further will, as I see it, absolutely require that you read it all.

                                2. Mass is caused by trillions of protons each attached by that simple mechanism, to trillions of other adjacent protons. Every single proton is so attached, (with every attachment having to conform to Maxwell's rules when the distance changes between each proton's attachment; in turn causing rapid detachments and re-attachments, the source of the photon). My view is we will have to find a way to create a surface that reduces such attachments. A simple Faraday cage will not serve for purpose; yes, your question is appropriate, but you will need a cage with a hole size less that the distance between the protons. You have to prevent the positive field seeking the negative potential. That is the challenge.

                                Again, I repeatedly make it clear that all I have produced is a debate. However, I do believe that I have been able to show an answer to many of the presently unanswered questions raised by conventional science. Yes, that does create a challenge for others that they, and you; are going to have to come to terms with. My universe is in steady state and thus very ancient. There has been no big bang and dare I say so, I have created a very detailed explanation of why I believe that to be so. My universe does not expand and shows the potential for a variation in the speed of light with means to seek answers via proposed experiment; that has not been tried before.

                                Please let me hope that we can now succeed to proceed further in a mutually respectful manner. Like it or not, you are going to have to sit down and read the book before you come back with further questions.

                                With the very greatest of respects.

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