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  • #16
    Re: Happy New Year Everyone. Any Guesses On 2017 Markets And/Or Global Activities?

    Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
    Thanks bpr.
    It might be worth the time to think through just how events might unfold after a US default.
    You lay out a good case for it considering it.
    I still think that requires assuming an incredible amount of nationalism for our international elite rulers.

    Don't forget, our President-elect makes most of his money in Asia, imported his wives from Europe, and is currently constructing hotel towers all over South America. To think that such a man would have such a nationalist, pro USA streak in him that he would damage his own family and their net worth by advancing US interests at the expense of other countries is kind of nutty.

    Then again, I tend to view things through a different lens.

    I think of the US/World more as a handful of competing ruling families seeking to advance themselves. They'll ally with other ruling families for a time, as it suits their interests, and the whole group of them will act in concert to suppress middle class wages and benefits and retirements and kill unions or do whatever they can to make sure that their power is not challenged from below. But ultimately, their goal in politics is to advance their families' interests, not to advance a nation or improve the lives of the people within it. Nobody becomes a billionaire to help his fellow man. It's about domination. It's about power and control and exerting one's will over others.

    So, through this lens, what would serve the Trump family best?
    1. Most importantly, anything that increases the Trump family's wealth and/or power.
    2. Anything that puts other ruling families in their debt.
    3. Any way to take what is public or what belongs to the middle class and give it to the upper class for the purposes of accomplishing #1-2 above.
    4. Any way to crush one or two ruling families to make an example out of them and make other rulers fear the Trump family.
    5. Any way to change the rules of the system to increase the power of oligarchs and decrease the power of the working and middle classes.

    This isn't unique to Trump by any means. It's just what is happening everywhere. The only thing the incoming Trump Administration does is cut the layer of separation. So now the billionaires will be working in the cabinet directly. No need to keep track of who is sponsoring whom.

    Keep in mind, each billionaire / near-billionaire he brings on has family interests all their own. So Betsy DeVos might be at Education, but her family's big interests are in Amway (pyramid scheme) and Constellis Holdings (mercenaries). That means they need to neuter the CFPB, de-regulate finance, make sure DOJ does not go after pyramid schemes, keep labor law regarding ICs vs Employees vague, and they need more war. Without these things, they cannot advance their family position. So the DoEd will be a place where you can trade for these things. The largest owners of for-profit charter schools are the Walton Family. They also have an army of local and state politicians in their pocket. So now when you want something done, this is how one imagines it goes. Pressure is applied in circles. Everyone is friendly, but Trump for the moment captured the top, so he can let them get a bit caty and hash it out if he wants.

    Now Vinny Viola as Army Secretary can have some sway as to kicking up some of the wars (and more importantly contracts) that the DeVos family needs to propsper. But his money all comes from program trading and owning an NHL team. So what he needs more than anything is the repeal of Dodd-Frank and de-regulation of program trading. That and maybe someone to bust the NHL player's union. That's how he makes money. But he's not in a position to do this.

    And so you go down the list. Ross' money comes from a variety of sources, but mostly he's an expert on privatizing everything, both in the post-Soviet countries and in US cities. He makes his money off selling off chunks of the state to wealthy people. This will be his job at Commerce, just as it was Penny Pritzker's before him. Make sure all new infrastructure is privatized and can extract rents. Sell off all public infrastructure possible. Fees, tolls, and fines are the name of that game. Take what once was free and put a price tag on it big enough to hurt the middle class and keep them from using it, but small enough that rich people aren't inconvenienced in the slightest. Meanwhile, Todd Rickets is in there as his number 2--son of the founder of Ameritrade, he'll be very interested in financial de-regulation. That's what butters his bread. And Wall Street in turn will be very interested in privatization. So they have a backup 40-something in line just in case 80 year old Wilbur Ross can't handle it. Really, Rickets will probably run the day-to-day.

    Linda McMahon's money mostly comes from TV, but really from IP. Strict IP enforcement, lengthening of terms, these sorts of things advantage her and her family more than the others. Can't do much at SBA for that, but you never know who's kid needs a loan to match angel funds at their silly startup after they finish their degree at Dartmouth or whatever...it can be a little favor factory.

    Meanwhile, Goldman's President Gary Cohn will run the Council of Economic Advisors and set economic policy for the Administration. He, along with (but more than) everyone else on this list benefits from financial de-regulation. And while he won't be running the SEC or CFTC, he'll be in a powerful enough spot to ensure that de-regulation happens. Everyone else here can count on that and use their power to privatize what once was public and soak the pension funds and put a price on what was free and erect tolls, fees, and fines everywhere, which is the other half of the Goldman equation.

    This is how these individuals advance their families and the industries their families run.

    These are the matters they will be primarily concerned with.

    How on Earth does it benefit them to go out of their way to bang around Japan and China or anywhere else? It doesn't. So why would it make sense for them to do so? Out of some weird sense of national pride? Doubtful. I'm willing to bet any actual trade/debt re-negotiation stuff they do will be as red meat for the bread and circus (e.g. for nothing other than minor saber rattling for political theater).

    What these people want is more power and more wealth for their families and less for everyone else.

    I think expecting them to behave differently is foolish.

    And this is coming from someone who has been fooled by others who were bought even more cheaply in the past...but I'm learning.

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    • #17
      Re: Happy New Year Everyone. Any Guesses On 2017 Markets And/Or Global Activities?

      Originally posted by dcarrigg View Post

      What these people want is more power and more wealth for their families and less for everyone else.

      I think expecting them to behave differently is foolish.

      And this is coming from someone who has been fooled by others who were bought even more cheaply in the past...but I'm learning.
      In which case we are now back in the Middle Ages with everyone outside of the feudal mercantile economy; serfs!

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      • #18
        Re: Happy New Year Everyone. Any Guesses On 2017 Markets And/Or Global Activities?

        Originally posted by Chris Coles View Post
        In which case we are now back in the Middle Ages with everyone outside of the feudal mercantile economy; serfs!
        Well, with a few key differences. Serfs never had to pay a mortgage for their home. And what they produced was their own after taxes--they weren't paid by the hour. Certainly there were no serfs with student loans, for instance.

        But there were far fewer services too. Especially on your side of the pond where you get healthcare, the tax man now offers quite a bit more service than just a protection racket. That said, the billionaires want to dismantle this.

        It's all much more reminiscent of the fall of the Venetian Republic rather than the last days of feudalism in the Netherlands or England.

        It's very slow motion and in the very early stages yet, but how different is Citizens United really than when they closed the book on the Pregadi to all but the decedents of the thousand wealthiest men in the city? The corruption is in your face and blatant now. Our presidential election was run by billionaires and their sponsors. People lined up to kiss Sheldon Adelson's ring. For Marco Rubio, it's Norman Brahman. For Cruz? Farris and Dan Wilks. In fact, the whole political game in the US gets a hell of a lot easier if you figure out--down to the name--who is sponsoring a major politician and what their business is.

        This is quite different than even prior to 2008, when there were limits on how much one individual could give one politician so they couldn't be wholly owned and operated on the political chess board like this. Post 2008 America is a whole different ballgame. And our media all got bought out by individual billionaires with political interests around that time too.

        There's a great game being played now, and it's new. But I'm pretty sure nothing makes sense if you look at the world as though it's not being played...

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        • #19
          Re: Happy New Year Everyone. Any Guesses On 2017 Markets And/Or Global Activities?

          Originally posted by dcarrigg View Post

          ... To think that such a man would ...damage his own family and their net worth by advancing US interests at the expense of other countries is kind of nutty...
          ...what would serve the Trump family best?

          1. Most importantly, anything that increases the Trump family's wealth and/or power.
          2. Anything that puts other ruling families in their debt.
          3. Any way to take what is public or what belongs to the middle class and give it to the upper class for the purposes of accomplishing #1-2 above.
          4. Any way to crush one or two ruling families to make an example out of them and make other rulers fear the Trump family.
          5. Any way to change the rules of the system to increase the power of oligarchs and decrease the power of the working and middle classes.

          ...Betsy DeVos .. big interests are in Amway (pyramid scheme) and Constellis Holdings (mercenaries)...
          ... Vinny Viola as Army Secretary .. his money all comes from program trading and owning an NHL team
          ...Ross' money comes from ... privatizing everything
          ...Todd Rickets is ... Ameritrade,...de-regulation...
          ...Linda McMahon's money mostly comes from TV, but really from IP...
          ...Goldman's President Gary Cohn ... de-regulation..and...privatiz...tolls, fees, and fines...

          What these people want is more power and more wealth...
          All good points, dcarrig, and it's great to see those people's personal interests spelled out so clearly.

          Yesterday the R's passed a budget resolution, full text here http://www.budget.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HEN17065.pdf
          That resolution shows the national debt increasing by ten trillion dollars over ten years.
          That's worth repeating.

          Yesterday the Republicans passed a law to increase the national debt by ten trillion dollars
          Yesterday the Republicans passed a law to increase the national debt by ten trillion dollars
          Yesterday the Republicans passed a law to increase the national debt by ten trillion dollars

          Let's copy and paste the details here from the new law.
          First, the total national debt:


          4(6) DEBT HELD BY THE PUBLIC.—The appro-
          5 priate levels of debt held by the public are as follows:
          6 Fiscal year 2017: $14,593,316,000,000.
          7 Fiscal year 2018: $15,198,740,000,000.
          8 Fiscal year 2019: $15,955,144,000,000.
          9 Fiscal year 2020: $16,791,740,000,000.
          10 Fiscal year 2021: $17,713,599,000,000.
          11 Fiscal year 2022: $18,787,230,000,000.
          12 Fiscal year 2023: $19,901,290,000,000.
          13 Fiscal year 2024: $21,033,163,000,000.
          14 Fiscal year 2025: $22,301,661,000,000.
          15 Fiscal year 2026: $23,691,844,000,000.


          It also shows the annual budget deficit doubling in ten years:

          2 (4) DEFICITS.—For purposes of the enforce-
          3 ment of this resolution, the amounts of the deficits
          4 are as follows:
          5 Fiscal year 2017: $582,574,000,000.
          6 Fiscal year 2018: $541,560,000,000.
          7 Fiscal year 2019: $673,600,000,000.
          8 Fiscal year 2020: $728,659,000,000.
          9 Fiscal year 2021: $785,164,000,000.
          10 Fiscal year 2022: $897,085,000,000.
          11 Fiscal year 2023: $892,854,000,000.
          12 Fiscal year 2024: $863,233,000,000.
          13 Fiscal year 2025: $946,057,000,000.
          14 Fiscal year 2026: $1,008,577,000,000.


          Of course, the R's show no new taxes (read their lips):

          13 (B) The amounts by which the aggregate
          14 levels of Federal revenues should be changed
          15 are as follows:
          16 Fiscal year 2017: $0.
          17 Fiscal year 2018: $0.
          18 Fiscal year 2019: $0.
          19 Fiscal year 2020: $0.
          20 Fiscal year 2021: $0.
          21 Fiscal year 2022: $0.
          22 Fiscal year 2023: $0.
          23 Fiscal year 2024: $0.
          24 Fiscal year 2025: $0.
          25 Fiscal year 2026: $0.

          Can the R's really just abandon any appearance of concern for runaway government debt?
          They have been screaming about it for twenty years.
          Can the House Freedom Caucus quietly vote every year to raise the debt ceiling to allow debt to grow faster than ever before, with no end in sight?

          When they were the opposition, they could criticize loudly as if arithmetic does not work and facts can be ignored.
          Now they are forced to write down numbers that add up.
          The cold equations have only these three solutions.

          It's either growing debt, increased taxes, or default.

          By the way, the numbers in the new budget have zero change in tax revenue, all those zeros just above.
          They've made some big promises for additional tax cuts, which only make the numbers worse.

          It's not inconceivable they might just default, the new president does love bankruptcy and write-downs.
          If you are correct that their only concern is looting the nation for personal gain, then default will give them more cash to stuff into their pockets or bribe others.
          The annual interest payment is a quarter trillion dollars each year, that's a lot of gravy to spread around.

          It might be worth thinking about how default works, and where a person might best hide their wealth if that scenario unfolds.
          On March 16 the U.S. will default if the R's don't raise the debt ceiling and commit themselves publicly to runaway debt forever.

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          • #20
            Re: Happy New Year Everyone. Any Guesses On 2017 Markets And/Or Global Activities?

            Originally posted by dcarrigg View Post
            Well, with a few key differences. Serfs never had to pay a mortgage for their home. And what they produced was their own after taxes--they weren't paid by the hour. Certainly there were no serfs with student loans, for instance.

            But there were far fewer services too. Especially on your side of the pond where you get healthcare, the tax man now offers quite a bit more service than just a protection racket. That said, the billionaires want to dismantle this.

            It's all much more reminiscent of the fall of the Venetian Republic rather than the last days of feudalism in the Netherlands or England.

            It's very slow motion and in the very early stages yet, but how different is Citizens United really than when they closed the book on the Pregadi to all but the decedents of the thousand wealthiest men in the city? The corruption is in your face and blatant now. Our presidential election was run by billionaires and their sponsors. People lined up to kiss Sheldon Adelson's ring. For Marco Rubio, it's Norman Brahman. For Cruz? Farris and Dan Wilks. In fact, the whole political game in the US gets a hell of a lot easier if you figure out--down to the name--who is sponsoring a major politician and what their business is.

            This is quite different than even prior to 2008, when there were limits on how much one individual could give one politician so they couldn't be wholly owned and operated on the political chess board like this. Post 2008 America is a whole different ballgame. And our media all got bought out by individual billionaires with political interests around that time too.

            There's a great game being played now, and it's new. But I'm pretty sure nothing makes sense if you look at the world as though it's not being played...
            I was reminded of a comment that turned up on BBC2 Newsnight a while ago. They were filming in Brazil and a bus driver commented: "We are all slaves today, it is just that now they pay us"

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            • #21
              Re: Happy New Year Everyone. Any Guesses On 2017 Markets And/Or Global Activities?

              Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
              All good points, dcarrig, and it's great to see those people's personal interests spelled out so clearly.

              Yesterday the R's passed a budget resolution, full text here http://www.budget.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HEN17065.pdf
              That resolution shows the national debt increasing by ten trillion dollars over ten years.
              That's worth repeating.

              Yesterday the Republicans passed a law to increase the national debt by ten trillion dollars
              Yesterday the Republicans passed a law to increase the national debt by ten trillion dollars
              Yesterday the Republicans passed a law to increase the national debt by ten trillion dollars

              Let's copy and paste the details here from the new law.
              First, the total national debt:


              4(6) DEBT HELD BY THE PUBLIC.—The appro-
              5 priate levels of debt held by the public are as follows:
              6 Fiscal year 2017: $14,593,316,000,000.
              7 Fiscal year 2018: $15,198,740,000,000.
              8 Fiscal year 2019: $15,955,144,000,000.
              9 Fiscal year 2020: $16,791,740,000,000.
              10 Fiscal year 2021: $17,713,599,000,000.
              11 Fiscal year 2022: $18,787,230,000,000.
              12 Fiscal year 2023: $19,901,290,000,000.
              13 Fiscal year 2024: $21,033,163,000,000.
              14 Fiscal year 2025: $22,301,661,000,000.
              15 Fiscal year 2026: $23,691,844,000,000.


              It also shows the annual budget deficit doubling in ten years:

              2 (4) DEFICITS.—For purposes of the enforce-
              3 ment of this resolution, the amounts of the deficits
              4 are as follows:
              5 Fiscal year 2017: $582,574,000,000.
              6 Fiscal year 2018: $541,560,000,000.
              7 Fiscal year 2019: $673,600,000,000.
              8 Fiscal year 2020: $728,659,000,000.
              9 Fiscal year 2021: $785,164,000,000.
              10 Fiscal year 2022: $897,085,000,000.
              11 Fiscal year 2023: $892,854,000,000.
              12 Fiscal year 2024: $863,233,000,000.
              13 Fiscal year 2025: $946,057,000,000.
              14 Fiscal year 2026: $1,008,577,000,000.


              Of course, the R's show no new taxes (read their lips):

              13 (B) The amounts by which the aggregate
              14 levels of Federal revenues should be changed
              15 are as follows:
              16 Fiscal year 2017: $0.
              17 Fiscal year 2018: $0.
              18 Fiscal year 2019: $0.
              19 Fiscal year 2020: $0.
              20 Fiscal year 2021: $0.
              21 Fiscal year 2022: $0.
              22 Fiscal year 2023: $0.
              23 Fiscal year 2024: $0.
              24 Fiscal year 2025: $0.
              25 Fiscal year 2026: $0.

              Can the R's really just abandon any appearance of concern for runaway government debt?
              They have been screaming about it for twenty years.
              Can the House Freedom Caucus quietly vote every year to raise the debt ceiling to allow debt to grow faster than ever before, with no end in sight?

              When they were the opposition, they could criticize loudly as if arithmetic does not work and facts can be ignored.
              Now they are forced to write down numbers that add up.
              The cold equations have only these three solutions.

              It's either growing debt, increased taxes, or default.

              By the way, the numbers in the new budget have zero change in tax revenue, all those zeros just above.
              They've made some big promises for additional tax cuts, which only make the numbers worse.

              It's not inconceivable they might just default, the new president does love bankruptcy and write-downs.
              If you are correct that their only concern is looting the nation for personal gain, then default will give them more cash to stuff into their pockets or bribe others.
              The annual interest payment is a quarter trillion dollars each year, that's a lot of gravy to spread around.

              It might be worth thinking about how default works, and where a person might best hide their wealth if that scenario unfolds.
              On March 16 the U.S. will default if the R's don't raise the debt ceiling and commit themselves publicly to runaway debt forever.
              US debt doubled in Reagan's first 5 years and practically trebled by the time he left office. The US didn't default then-it can't when the debt is in its own currency it can just print it. It's the reserve currency. The whole world needs dollars to trade. For the global economy and world trade to expand the world needs an expanding supply of dollars. The big problem will be a slowdown in debt issuance which may already be the case-this is why the dollar is soaring.

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              • #22
                Re: Happy New Year Everyone. Any Guesses On 2017 Markets And/Or Global Activities?

                Originally posted by llanlad2 View Post
                US debt doubled in Reagan's first 5 years and practically trebled by the time he left office. The US didn't default then-it can't when the debt is in its own currency it can just print it. It's the reserve currency. The whole world needs dollars to trade. For the global economy and world trade to expand the world needs an expanding supply of dollars. The big problem will be a slowdown in debt issuance which may already be the case-this is why the dollar is soaring.
                You're correct on those facts.
                None the less, congress nearly refused to raise the debt ceiling twice recently, and might actually do it one of the next times.

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                • #23
                  Re: Happy New Year Everyone. Any Guesses On 2017 Markets And/Or Global Activities?

                  Originally posted by llanlad2 View Post
                  ... The whole world needs dollars to trade. For the global economy and world trade to expand the world needs an expanding supply of dollars...
                  I nearly overlooked that bit of your comment.
                  Isn't that the Triffin Dilemma - supplying the word with your own currency as the reserve currency requires a current account deficit?

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                  • #24
                    Re: Happy New Year Everyone. Any Guesses On 2017 Markets And/Or Global Activities?

                    Journalism no longer exists. Media has become propaganda machines for the warring left and right fringes:

                    https://theintercept.com/2017/01/04/...c-is-deceived/

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                    • #25
                      Re: Happy New Year Everyone. Any Guesses On 2017 Markets And/Or Global Activities?

                      Obama increased the debt by $8.4 Trillion in 8 years so the Republican budget is not growing as fast.

                      Plus the CBO had stated the current budget of Obama would increase the debt to $29.2 Trillion in 2026, which is over $5 Trillion more than the new Republican budget.

                      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...resident-obama

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                      • #26
                        Re: Happy New Year Everyone. Any Guesses On 2017 Markets And/Or Global Activities?

                        Great discussion here.

                        Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
                        You're correct on those facts.
                        None the less, congress nearly refused to raise the debt ceiling twice recently, and might actually do it one of the next times.
                        I would be shocked if this happens under Trump: even Obama called their bluff and Trump wouldn't stand for it. Right now, everyone's in fear of his Tweets. I wouldn't be surprised to see the debt limit abolished altogether.

                        Originally posted by vt View Post
                        Plus the CBO had stated the current budget of Obama would increase the debt to $29.2 Trillion in 2026, which is over $5 Trillion more than the new Republican budget.
                        The quoted GPO number was publicly held debt (excluding debt held by govt. agencies, I think), not national debt. Turns out it's a wash, give or take $75 billion or so.

                        Here are both tables from Thrifty's link:

                        (5) PUBLIC DEBT.—Pursuant to section
                        16 301(a)(5) of the Congressional Budget Act of 1974
                        17 (2 U.S.C. 632(a)(5)), the appropriate levels of the
                        18 public debt are as follows:
                        19 Fiscal year 2017: $20,034,788,000,000.
                        20 Fiscal year 2018: $20,784,183,000,000.
                        21 Fiscal year 2019: $21,625,729,000,000.
                        22 Fiscal year 2020: $22,504,763,000,000.
                        23 Fiscal year 2021: $23,440,271,000,000.
                        24 Fiscal year 2022: $24,509,421,000,000.
                        25 Fiscal year 2023: $25,605,527,000,000.
                        1 Fiscal year 2024: $26,701,273,000,000.
                        2 Fiscal year 2025: $27,869,175,000,000.
                        3 Fiscal year 2026: $29,126,158,000,000.

                        4 (6) DEBT HELD BY THE PUBLIC.—The appro-
                        5 priate levels of debt held by the public are as follows:
                        6 Fiscal year 2017: $14,593,316,000,000.
                        7 Fiscal year 2018: $15,198,740,000,000.
                        8 Fiscal year 2019: $15,955,144,000,000.
                        9 Fiscal year 2020: $16,791,740,000,000.
                        10 Fiscal year 2021: $17,713,599,000,000.
                        11 Fiscal year 2022: $18,787,230,000,000.
                        12 Fiscal year 2023: $19,901,290,000,000.
                        13 Fiscal year 2024: $21,033,163,000,000.
                        14 Fiscal year 2025: $22,301,661,000,000.
                        15 Fiscal year 2026: $23,691,844,000,000.
                        Originally posted by vt View Post
                        Journalism no longer exists. Media has become propaganda machines for the warring left and right fringes:

                        https://theintercept.com/2017/01/04/...c-is-deceived/
                        Taking the long view, both the concepts of independent objective journalism and retirement are looking like historical artifacts peculiar to the fifty or so years after World War II:

                        http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/20...etirement-plan

                        Personally, a life change last month made my family eligible for the ACA, just in time. We're currently uninsured. Every other time this happened in my life ('99-'00, '02-'03, '09-'12) I just rolled the dice, but this time I don't have to (or from another perspective, I'm not allowed to). Thanks, B.O., gonna miss you.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Happy New Year Everyone. Any Guesses On 2017 Markets And/Or Global Activities?

                          Originally posted by vt View Post
                          Media has become propaganda machines for the warring left and right fringes:

                          https://theintercept.com/2017/01/04/...c-is-deceived/
                          I think it's not that, but rather a tool of the billionaire it serves. So you don't like Jeff Bezos' Washington Post vt? Instead you post an article from Pierre Omidyar's Intercept? Different billionaire, definitely big agenda. He has been using non-profit intermediaries to snatch up the Reuters newswire. Remember, Taibbi left Rolling Stone to go work for him and quit before even one article came out because he didn't allow a shred of journalistic independence? Greenwald is basically his personal press agent now.

                          And if you really think Greenwald and/or Omidyar give a rat's ass about civil liberties and Snowden and government spying and all that, ask Omidyar what the hell Omidyar Network is doing that it is so heavily invested in Palantir. Why did he pretty much literally buy the wikimedia foundation and put his own guys on the board to control the information flow there? Why do any of us allow a billionaire's personal multi-billion-dollar "not-for-profit" foundation to be so heavily involved in information warfare?

                          Well, they've all got their reasons. Ask yourself why in this article you linked to Jeff Bezos would want so badly for the WaPost to beat the war drums with Russia that he had them rush out a couple fake stories over a day or two. Ever wonder if it has anything to do with Sergei Roldugin's offshore shells' massive investments in Ozon? Or how about Roskomandzor blocking Amazon Cloud Services in Russia?

                          I think you learn a whole lot more about what's really going on this way rather than thinking of things in generic, tribal, "left vs right" terms. That fit what was going on maybe 10 years ago and before for a while. But it's a whole different landscape today.
                          Last edited by dcarrigg; January 05, 2017, 10:06 AM.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Happy New Year Everyone. Any Guesses On 2017 Markets And/Or Global Activities?

                            Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
                            I nearly overlooked that bit of your comment.
                            Isn't that the Triffin Dilemma - supplying the word with your own currency as the reserve currency requires a current account deficit?
                            It is.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Happy New Year Everyone. Any Guesses On 2017 Markets And/Or Global Activities?

                              Originally posted by dcarrigg View Post
                              And if you really think Greenwald and/or Omidyar give a rat's ass about civil liberties and Snowden and government spying and all that, ask Omidyar what the hell Omidyar Network is doing that it is so heavily invested in Palantir.
                              wouldn't it be in palantir's interest to be ratcheting up tension with russia? why go after bezos on this particular item?


                              Originally posted by dcarrigg
                              Why did he pretty much literally buy the wikimedia foundation and put his own guys on the board to control the information flow there? Why do any of us allow a billionaire's personal multi-billion-dollar "not-for-profit" foundation to be so heavily involved in information warfare?

                              Well, they've all got their reasons.
                              what is your theory of omidyar's motivations? what is the worldview he is propagating and why?


                              Originally posted by dcarrigg
                              Ask yourself why in this article you linked to Jeff Bezos would want so badly for the WaPost to beat the war drums with Russia that he had them rush out a couple fake stories over a day or two.
                              do you really think bezos gets involved on such a granular detail? i would think that instead there's a wapo cultural value about suspicion of russian aggression. i wonder if people on the editorial staff have any idea of why they are pursuing that value quite so vigorously.
                              Last edited by jk; January 05, 2017, 01:39 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Happy New Year Everyone. Any Guesses On 2017 Markets And/Or Global Activities?

                                Originally posted by bpr View Post

                                Personally, a life change last month made my family eligible for the ACA, just in time. We're currently uninsured. Every other time this happened in my life ('99-'00, '02-'03, '09-'12) I just rolled the dice, but this time I don't have to (or from another perspective, I'm not allowed to). Thanks, B.O., gonna miss you.
                                So you only make responsible choices when Barack Obama forces you to?

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