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  • #31
    Re: Trump's Appointments May Not Be What Some Fear

    Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
    Thanks Chris.
    While that would be a tragedy, it would not be the U.S.starting a war with China like Pilger discusses.
    And one must suppose that was what all those strident young people in Tienanmen Square were saying to themselves the night before..... it is not the US response but the Chinese, particularly the CCP that is uppermost in my thoughts herein.

    We do not see them, other than they keep turning up and when they do, it becomes instantly clear that even high level Chinese scientists walk quickly to another part of the room and show real fear of the consequences of such contact.

    The CCP brooks no interference in what they see as their affairs; and the South China Sea is one they have clearly signaled is theirs, not everyone else's. They teach, very forcefully, to those that come into direct contact with them; they brook no interference; None, whatsoever!

    As such, this is simply my two cents worth, it will be very foolish indeed to believe that the US can continue along their present path without the very real prospect of dire consequences.

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    • #32
      Re: Trump's Appointments May Not Be What Some Fear

      trump takes a call from the pres of taiwan. chinese steal a u.s. underwater drone. "incidents" not worth going to war over, but ratcheting up the tension.

      cold war with china in general, and in particular the control of the south china sea and its transport lanes, will be one of the main justifications for a new military build up. i bought a little stock in gd and hii - naval shipbuilders.

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      • #33
        Re: Trump's Appointments May Not Be What Some Fear

        Originally posted by jk View Post
        trump takes a call from the pres of taiwan. chinese steal a u.s. underwater drone. "incidents" not worth going to war over, but ratcheting up the tension.

        cold war with china in general, and in particular the control of the south china sea and its transport lanes, will be one of the main justifications for a new military build up. i bought a little stock in gd and hii - naval shipbuilders.
        I was wondering, as a I read this, how the MSM in the USA might have reacted if the President of China took a call from the governor of Puerto Rico and "Trump" has seized a Chinese Navy drone?

        The whole world seems to have gone mad, with our tech enabled instant communications allowing equally instant expressions of outrage, victimhood, scapegoating and endless speculations about personal motives.

        Nevertheless, the USA MSM and its followers do indeed seem in hot pursuit of a new boogeyman. Putin's Russia or Xi Jinping's China, either would seem adequate for the purposes you describe. Maybe the establishment will hedge its long term bets by demonising both?
        Last edited by GRG55; December 17, 2016, 01:37 PM.

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        • #34
          Re: Trump's Appointments May Not Be What Some Fear

          Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
          I was wondering, as a I read this, how the MSM in the USA might have reacted if the President of China took a call from the governor of Puerto Rico and "Trump" has seized a Chinese Navy drone?
          That's a bit of a false comparison though, don't you think? It's more like if the Premier of China took a call from President Jefferson Davis IV, who claimed to have been running the real United States government in exile from Puerto Rico since the Civil War, and whom China used to recognize as the only real United States until the 1970s.

          The whole world seems to have gone mad, with our tech enabled instant communications allowing equally instant expressions of outrage, victimhood, scapegoating and endless speculations about personal motives.
          In general, I don't disagree with this.

          Nevertheless, the USA MSM and its followers do indeed seem in hot pursuit of a new boogeyman. Putin's Russia or Xi Jinping's China, either would seem adequate for the purposes you describe. Maybe the establishment will hedge its long term bets by demonising both?
          If you're going to snatch a man's wallet while shaking his hand, it's best to get him to look over his shoulder.

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          • #35
            Re: Trump's Appointments May Not Be What Some Fear

            I take back what I said earlier. This is beyond a "head shaker". Maybe Trump is going to create the first Reality Television Administration.

            Larry Kudlow to Chair Trump’s Council of Economic Advisers

            What next? Jim Cramer to head the Social Security Administration? Maria Bartiromo to Chair the Fed? Kevin O'Leary as Commerce Secretary? The mind boggles at the possibilities...
            Last edited by GRG55; December 17, 2016, 02:19 PM.

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            • #36
              Re: Trump's Appointments May Not Be What Some Fear

              Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
              I take back what I said earlier. This is beyond a "head shaker". Maybe Trump is going to create the first Reality Television Administration.

              Larry Kudlow to Chair Trump’s Council of Economic Advisers

              What next? Jim Cramer to head the Social Security Administration? Maria Bartiromo to Chair the Fed? Kevin O'Leary as Commerce Secretary? The mind boggles at the possibilities...
              Kudlow is a trained economist and has credentials that "qualify" him for such a position. From what I've seen of Kudlow, I don't think he knows very much about the real economy but how is that different from economists who would be considered eminently qualified such as Lawrence Summers or Ben Bernanke?

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              • #37
                Re: Trump's Appointments May Not Be What Some Fear

                Originally posted by Milton Kuo View Post
                Kudlow is a trained economist and has credentials that "qualify" him for such a position. From what I've seen of Kudlow, I don't think he knows very much about the real economy but how is that different from economists who would be considered eminently qualified such as Lawrence Summers or Ben Bernanke?
                His lack of an advanced degree in economics might work in his favour. Who knows.

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                • #38
                  Re: Trump's Appointments May Not Be What Some Fear

                  Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                  I take back what I said earlier. This is beyond a "head shaker". Maybe Trump is going to create the first Reality Television Administration.
                  consensual reality went out the window long ago. whatever kudlow sees and says will be as real as trump's "landslide victory [if you don't count the millions of illegal votes for hillary]."

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                  • #39
                    Re: Trump's Appointments May Not Be What Some Fear

                    Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                    His lack of an advanced degree in economics might work in his favour. Who knows.



                    Good one - very funny.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Trump's Appointments May Not Be What Some Fear

                      My view of the CCP remains; in a lifetime of face to face conversations, I have never before had the experience of being at, yes a very small academic conference, this year, and had the experience of sitting down at a crowded table to eat my sandwiches along with many others to then find myself being sat beside by an individual who immediately sets to ask pointed questions about politics and the status of political parties, wherein I responded, only to look up and find that the table had very quietly emptied, with all having moved to another part of the room, en mass.

                      We are dealing with a group of people that have set real fear into the hearts and minds of their own nation and thus fear nothing themselves. To my way of thinking; that is an unrecognised tinderbox which may well only require the tiniest of sparks to set the whole into a strong fire.

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