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  • Default Lines: The New Math Of Credit Scores

    WSJ via Yahoo

    Fair Isaac Corp., maker of the popular FICO credit score used by most lenders, says its new scoring model will do a better job predicting the likelihood of a borrower defaulting on a loan. For one thing, the new model, dubbed FICO 08, will be more forgiving of occasional slips by consumers, but will take a harder line on repeat offenders. Fair Isaac predicts its new system will help lenders reduce default rates on their consumer credit by between 5% and 15%.
    Various iTulipers have questioned the reliability and accuracy of FICO scores in actually determining whether someone will default or not. For example:

    Originally posted by akrowne View Post
    ...the long-term performance of a mortgage loan depends more on the loan's intrinsic characteristics (CLTV/down payment size, ARM vs. fixed status, stated income status, etc.) than the borrower's a priori credit score, which is much less forward-looking.
    Other snippets from the article:

    Consumers could start seeing the new FICO scores by the spring, though some lenders may take additional time to test the system to see how it works with their business and loan portfolios.

    ...

    The latest version of the FICO score will largely look and feel the same to consumers and lenders. Scores will still range from 300 to 850 -- the higher the better -- and the model will continue to look at the same factors...

    "Consumers who are low risk will score better with the new FICO version, and consumers who are high risk will score lower," says John Ulzheimer, president of consumer education for Credit.com, a personal-finance Web site. Higher-risk borrowers may find it tougher to get credit, while those with less-risky profiles -- though they may have gotten approved for credit accounts in the past -- will start to get better deals from lenders, he says.

    Two people with the same FICO score currently could see their scores diverge under the new system. One possible reason: FICO 08 gives more points to consumers who maintain a variety of credit types, such as credit cards, a mortgage and auto loan, because it shows they can manage payments on different kinds of loans. On the other hand, the new scoring system penalizes to a greater degree borrowers who use a high percentage of their available credit.

    ...Traditionally, many credit-scoring models grouped subprime consumers into one general category. But Fair Isaac says its new model will give a higher score to a borrower in arrears if they also have a number of other credit accounts in good standing. Conversely, a person's score could drop if he or she has multiple delinquent accounts.

    ...

    FICO 08 also aims to curtail the growing business of allowing people to polish their credit by "piggybacking" on someone else's good credit history. In recent years, credit-repair Web sites have sprung up that arrange for subprime consumers to boost their scores by becoming authorized users on accounts held by strangers with better credit. When scoring a consumer, FICO 08 won't take into consideration credit-card accounts for which that person is an authorized user.
    No surprise, looks like the plan is to still encourage everyone to take out as many lines of credit as possible, but hopefully (from the lenders' perspective) not default on the payments. If you have to, be late on one of your debts, but if you keep paying the others on time, then everything is ok. Whatever you do, don't actually pay off any of your debts, that might lower your FICO score.:rolleyes:

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    Re: Default Lines: The New Math Of Credit Scores

    Zoog -

    I paid the last of my revolving balances down to zero a year ago, and my FICO score leaped by 70 points overnight after clearing that remaining $4500 balance.

    Oh yeah, and if I ever wind up in an elevator with a Citibank Credit Card executive, I may just mug him for the hell of it. I'd take his shirt, jacket, trousers, patent leather dress loafers, socks, Patek Philippe watch, crocodile skin wallet, Armani shades, gold mongrammed bracelet, and maybe if I was feeling charitable I'd leave him his shorts. These guys are vermin and should be put in a chicken coop with some avian flu infected poultry...

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      Re: Default Lines: The New Math Of Credit Scores

      Originally posted by Lukester View Post

      Oh yeah, and if I ever wind up in an elevator with a Citibank Credit Card executive, I may just mug him for the hell of it. I'd take his shirt, jacket, trousers, patent leather dress loafers, socks, Patek Philippe watch, crocodile skin wallet, Armani shades, gold mongrammed bracelet, and maybe if I was feeling charitable I'd leave him his shorts. These guys are vermin and should be put in a chicken coop with some avian flu infected poultry...
      Don't candy-coat it like that, Lukester. How do you really feel about credit card executives? ;)

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        Re: Default Lines: The New Math Of Credit Scores

        Originally posted by Lukester View Post
        Zoog -

        I paid the last of my revolving balances down to zero a year ago, and my FICO score leaped by 70 points overnight after clearing that remaining $4500 balance.

        Oh yeah, and if I ever wind up in an elevator with a Citibank Credit Card executive, I may just mug him for the hell of it. I'd take his shirt, jacket, trousers, patent leather dress loafers, socks, Patek Philippe watch, crocodile skin wallet, Armani shades, gold mongrammed bracelet, and maybe if I was feeling charitable I'd leave him his shorts. These guys are vermin and should be put in a chicken coop with some avian flu infected poultry...
        Congrats, Luke. Maybe we need add another qualifier to your moniker: Sans Debt.
        Ed.

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        • #5
          Re: Default Lines: The New Math Of Credit Scores

          The FICO is bogus in my opinion. I recently retrieved my score and the number was lower than I thought it should be. Looking at the analysis that was provided I was penalized because my mortgage holder was no longer reporting . . . I guess I shouldn't have paid off my house a few years ago.

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          • #6
            Re: Default Lines: The New Math Of Credit Scores

            I remember when I bought my first car a few years ago and I was being penalized because I had no other debt or credit history. I'm thinking, "That's a good thing".

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