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  • #46
    Re: Wot is wrong with her????

    Don't forget her sunglasses. Zeiss Z1 blue lenses - the favourite of people with epilepsy and seizures - especially at an event with lots of cameras and flashes.

    Suppressive Efficacy by a Commercially Available Blue Lens on PPR in 610 Photosensitive Epilepsy Patients

    Edit: You didn't really think she was trying to pull off the Ozzy Osbourne/60's rock chic look did you?
    Last edited by Fiat Currency; September 12, 2016, 09:08 AM.

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    • #47
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      Anybody see Scott Adams' take on this?
      He thinks because it happened at ground zero she's done.

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      • #48
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        Originally posted by LazyBoy View Post
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        I don't have a link right now, but I've seen some opinions going around
        that Bernie would get it, based on DNC rules and the language used at
        the convention. He never said "I concede". His delegates were counted.

        It may just be wishful thinking from the Bernie base. And frankly, I
        wouldn't count on the DNC following any "rules".
        I don't see how they can give it to Bernie since he renounced being a Democrat and went back to being an Independent. Dumbest thing he ever did IMO. When he gave that gracious speech at the convention told his followers to follow Hillary, he saved her tush and the party itself. They owed him BIG TIME. If anything happened to her- illness or indictment- they would have had to pick him as her successor. But instead he quit the party. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

        Or maybe actually smart. The wheels are going to fall off during the next adminsitration. Whomever is in office will get the blame. Couldn't happen to a more deserving crook than HRC. Let's wish her well!

        Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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        • #49
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          Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
          Anybody see Scott Adams' take on this?
          He thinks because it happened at ground zero she's done.
          He's been just about spot on up to now. Would love for him to be correct, but i expect the media will continue to cover up her health issues and work as they have to "clarify" her gaffes away.

          These Clinton people lie when there's no reason to lie. They seem incapable of speaking even the most basic verities. If they say it's sunny, bring an umbrella.

          Like so many of the scandals and pseudo-scandals that have dogged Hillary Clinton and her husband through the years, this one needs to be recognized as entirely self-inflicted. The campaign now has to live with the consequences of having chosen to lie to get out of a problem.

          http://theweek.com/articles/648141/why-did-hillary-clinton-lie-about-health

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          • #50
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            Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
            Anybody see Scott Adams' take on this?
            He thinks because it happened at ground zero she's done.
            I did. If her collapse gets big MSM coverage and doesn't get swept under the rug, he might be right. If it mainly circulates on the the conspiracy theory websites it won't have much of an effect. Here's the link: The Race for President is (Probably) OVER

            Did you read his followup? The guy's been nailing it so far...

            Checking My Predictions About Clinton's Health

            Posted September 11th, 2016 @ 6:50pm in #Trump #Clinton

            In a blog post I wrote on December 27th, 2015, I said this…

            Bonus Thought 1:
            One of the skills a hypnotist has to master is reading people’s inner thoughts based on their body language. That’s a common skill for people in the business world too, but hypnotists go deeper than looking at crossed arms and furrowed brows. We learn to look for subtle changes in breathing patterns, tiny changes in muscle tone, variations in skin color (blushing or not), word choice, pupil dilation, and more. I assume law enforcement people look for similar tells when doing interrogations.

            As regular readers know, I’m a trained hypnotist. And to me, Hillary Clinton looks as if she is hiding a major health issue. If you read Malcolm Gladwell’s book, Blink, you know that so-called “experts” can sometimes instantly make decisions before they know why. In my case, I am going to make an “expert” hypnotist prediction about Hillary Clinton without knowing exactly which clues I am picking up, or whether I am hallucinating them.


            Prediction: I’ll put the odds at 75% that we learn of an important Clinton health issue before the general election. That estimate is based on my own track record of guessing things about people without the benefit of knowing why. I think Trump is picking up the same vibe. He has already questioned Clinton’s “stamina.”


            On December 29th, 2015 I blogged that Trump would be seen as “running unopposed” before election day. I mentioned Clinton’s health as a possible reason.

            While I’m on the topic, I’ll add another prediction to the Master Persuader series. I predict that by the time Trump is in the general election and running against Clinton, you will start hearing that Trump (Lucky Hitler) is – for all practical purposes – “running unopposed” as Clinton’s poll numbers plummet.


            That can happen in a variety of ways. One way is if Clinton’s health or legal issues rise to the point of being disqualifying, and Trump persuades us to think about those things more than we think about anything else. Once you imagine there is one candidate in the race who is eligible and one who might not survive the term, or might be in jail, you start to imagine it as a one-person race.


            And you will. That’s how you get a landslide.
            Look for the words “running unopposed” in pundit articles and quotes within a few months of election day. And it still counts if it started here, because it won’t catch on unless it actually fits.

            On April 29th of 2016 I expanded on the thought in this post.

            I have blogged and tweeted that Hillary Clinton looks unhealthy to me. And I have mentioned on Twitter that one of the skills of a hypnotist is identifying subtle bodily changes. Observation is a huge part of a hypnotist’s skill. You look for micro changes in muscle tone, breathing, posture, and anything else that can tell you whether your technique is working or you need to quickly pivot to a new approach. Think of it as rapid A-B testing on humans. And like any skill, one gets better with practice. I have more than three decades of practice for this specific skill.


            What I see in Clinton’s health is an unusual level of variability. Sometimes her eyes bug out, sometimes they are tired and baggy. Sometimes she looks puffy, sometimes not. It would be easy to assume fatigue is the important variable. And that is clearly a big factor. But notice that the other candidates have little variability in their physicality. Trump always looks like Trump. Cruz always looks like Cruz, and so on. Sometimes we think we can detect fatigue in their answers, but visually the other candidates appear about the same every day.


            Clinton, on the other hand, looks like an entirely different person every few days. That suggests some greater variability in her health. And that’s probably a tell for medications that are waxing and waning but rarely at the ideal levels. Or perhaps the underlying conditions have normal variability. Or both.


            Under normal circumstances it would be deeply irresponsible for a cartoonist to give a medical diagnosis to a stranger he hasn’t met. I trust you to ignore my medical opinions. I do this to build a record of my persuasion-related predictions and to show you the method.


            I give Clinton a 50% chance of making it to November with sufficiently good health to be considered a viable president. Judging from her performance on the campaign trail, she is managing her health effectively to get the job done. But I would think most people who run for president end up sacrificing their health in some measure. The big question is how much buffer she has left.


            To be clear, there is no dependable evidence of Clinton having an undisclosed major health issue. But it looks that way to observers.


            Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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            • #51
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              Got a call from someone at work....rummor from an american contact (who would know).......she had a Blood transfusion & is on oxygen

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              • #52
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                Well, Well..............not sure how this plays out............assuming that she is NOT as ill as they saying will she recover enough in time?
                If she IS as ill as they say will the DNC pull her out & drop in "Amtrak Joe" ?

                Looks like Jim Rickard might be collecting on that bet he made here in the UK.
                mike

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                • #53
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                  Originally posted by shiny! View Post
                  I don't see how they can give it to Bernie since he renounced being a Democrat and went back to being an Independent. Dumbest thing he ever did IMO. When he gave that gracious speech at the convention told his followers to follow Hillary, he saved her tush and the party itself. They owed him BIG TIME. If anything happened to her- illness or indictment- they would have had to pick him as her successor. But instead he quit the party. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

                  Or maybe actually smart. The wheels are going to fall off during the next adminsitration. Whomever is in office will get the blame. Couldn't happen to a more deserving crook than HRC. Let's wish her well!
                  Surely it may well be a good move to ask an independent individual to stand; particularly one that has such a good track record of getting people to vote for him? That way the DNC get to win the election while at one and the same time, showing that they could accept his wish, to stand clear of HRC, without his shadow hanging over her. If he had stayed, undoubtedly, he would have cast a very long shadow. My assumption was he stepped out to prevent any such impediment to her campaign. If that is the case, then there is no impediment to his return. Some subtle PR will do the job no problem.

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                  • #54
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                    Originally posted by Woodsman View Post
                    The problem with choosing another candidate is that they already chose this one. In order to get a do-over 50 days before the election, Clinton would have to decide for herself to leave as one of David Shuster's DNC sources reminds us.



                    And who do we imagine has the degree of gravitas to give Hillary "the talk?" I doubt there would be a long list of potential volunteers willing to put their head on the block.
                    I doubt very much that she'll quit.

                    Moving forward, it might be easier for the parties to dispense with voters and just let the national committees and donors determine everything. It has the virtue of reflecting the reality that superdelegates and major donors are the primary constituencies and the only cohort that sees their interests addressed. Cut out the middle-man, so to speak.
                    So very cynical, and so very true.

                    Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                    • #55
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                      Originally posted by Woodsman View Post
                      The problem with choosing another candidate is that they already chose this one. In order to get a do-over 50 days before the election, Clinton would have to decide for herself to leave as one of David Shuster's DNC sources reminds us.



                      And who do we imagine has the degree of gravitas to give Hillary "the talk?" I doubt there would be a long list of potential volunteers willing to put their head on the block.
                      I doubt very much that she'll quit.
                      Yeah, she wants it too much. There is no scenario where she would voluntarily give up the nomination.

                      She could be outed as having a terminal diagnosis and 3 months to live and she still wouldn't give it up.

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                      • #56
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                        Can't imagine a bigger contrast with the national political circus. I had read about proliferation of tent cities in the USA over the years, especially in the aftermath of the financial crisis, but last week was the first trip I have made to the USA to a place where I saw one of these first hand. There are no amount of words or pictures in articles that can actually prepare one for the impact of seeing it for oneself.

                        This was in Seattle, probably one of the most liberal cities in the USA, at a time where there is still steady growth in good paying jobs, skills shortages in many sectors, and an in-migration of both monetary and human capital from elsewhere in the Republic. Seattle appears to be firing on all cylinders at the moment, despite the depressed resource sector, and yet these organised tent clusters for the homeless are irrefutable evidence of a growing and persistent poverty, despite the "recovery" from the financial crisis. The one I saw is on a hillside overlooking the #5 Interstate and faintly echoed the pictures of the flavelas in Rio. Certainly one would have no difficulty imagining these expanding in a comparable fashion, marching up the hillsides of the city until constrained by the homes of the better off, if the need continues to expand.

                        I don't know if this sighting had an outsized influence on me, but if this is indicative of the best the cloistered politicians and bureaucrats inside the D.C. Beltway can do, Woodsman's (and a few others here) fears for the future of the nation would seem well founded. Hope and Change indeed.

                        A lot of us Boomers liked to denigrate the "Father Knows Best" white bread era of the 1950s...but one thing about it, most family units stayed together and provided a support mechanism for each other. I can't even begin to imagine how many single parent households find themselves plunged into poverty at breakup.

                        [not my picture]

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                        • #57
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                          I can't see anyway out of this............she been sick for a long time..........& getting worse.
                          Even if she does return to the ring how long can she last?

                          The MSM have little choice but ask the questions they didn't want to ask (although i suspect they lost so much street cred its pointless).

                          Nope, if she not 100% fighting fit in 7 days its all over, i think Joe B will be warming up!
                          Mike

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                          • #58
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                            Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                            Can't imagine a bigger contrast with the national political circus. I had read about proliferation of tent cities in the USA over the years, especially in the aftermath of the financial crisis, but last week was the first trip I have made to the USA to a place where I saw one of these first hand. There are no amount of words or pictures in articles that can actually prepare one for the impact of seeing it for oneself.
                            It's all part of the "wealth effect" that jackasses such as Ben Bernanke insist will kick start an economic recovery. Most surely, housing prices increasing at ~12% per annum from 2010 to 2016 and now "leveling" at 5% per annum is going to make 300 million or so people in this country better off.

                            What the heck do I know? After all, I didn't get degrees from Harvard and MIT, and follow that up with teaching stints at Stanford and MIT.

                            All I know is this: If people are horrified by the Greenspan-opolises, Bernanke-villes, and Yellen-burgs all over the country caused in part by a wealth effect, wait until they see what happens when the inevitable complement to a wealth effect occurs: a poverty effect.

                            The bankers better start studying more diligently to improve their market timing. Based on their past record, they might not make it out of the country before the pitchforks and torches arrive.
                            Last edited by Milton Kuo; September 12, 2016, 03:18 PM.

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                            • #59
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                              Hillary Clinton’s Campaign to Release More Information on Her Health

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                              • #60
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                                Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                                Can't imagine a bigger contrast with the national political circus. I had read about proliferation of tent cities in the USA over the years, especially in the aftermath of the financial crisis, but last week was the first trip I have made to the USA to a place where I saw one of these first hand. There are no amount of words or pictures in articles that can actually prepare one for the impact of seeing it for oneself.

                                This was in Seattle, probably one of the most liberal cities in the USA, at a time where there is still steady growth in good paying jobs, skills shortages in many sectors, and an in-migration of both monetary and human capital from elsewhere in the Republic. Seattle appears to be firing on all cylinders at the moment, despite the depressed resource sector, and yet these organised tent clusters for the homeless are irrefutable evidence of a growing and persistent poverty, despite the "recovery" from the financial crisis. The one I saw is on a hillside overlooking the #5 Interstate and faintly echoed the pictures of the flavelas in Rio. Certainly one would have no difficulty imagining these expanding in a comparable fashion, marching up the hillsides of the city until constrained by the homes of the better off, if the need continues to expand.

                                I don't know if this sighting had an outsized influence on me, but if this is indicative of the best the cloistered politicians and bureaucrats inside the D.C. Beltway can do, Woodsman's (and a few others here) fears for the future of the nation would seem well founded. Hope and Change indeed.

                                A lot of us Boomers liked to denigrate the "Father Knows Best" white bread era of the 1950s...but one thing about it, most family units stayed together and provided a support mechanism for each other. I can't even begin to imagine how many single parent households find themselves plunged into poverty at breakup.

                                [not my picture]
                                "When I was a child, I sang “America the Beautiful” and meant it. I was born in the Rocky Mountains and raised, at various times, on the coasts. The Big Sky, the rolling surf, the jagged, snowcapped mountains–all this seemed to be my birthright. But now I flinch when I hear Woody Guthrie’s line “This land was made for you and me.” "

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