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Re: Turkey downs Russian fighter jet over Syria
Interesting little development...
Erdogan promises to resign if ISIS oil links to Turkey are confirmed
Fingers crossed
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Wow. Never thought I'd live to see read something like this. When you lose Dana Rohrabacher...
Why do Americans feel compelled to kick Russia in the teeth? Russia’s military is attacking an enemy that would do us harm. Why ignore the hostile pro-terrorist maneuvering of Turkish strongman Erdogan?President Obama is wrong. American politicians who try to sound tough at Russia’s expense in this case are not watching out for the long-term interests of the United States by undermining those fighting our primary enemy, Islamic terrorists.
Russia should be applauded. Instead, it is being castigated for doing what our government is unwilling to do to confront the terrorist offensive now butchering innocent human beings from Africa, to the Middle East, to the streets of Paris.
If being in NATO means protecting Erdogan in this situation, either he shouldn’t be in NATO or we shouldn’t.
https://www.facebook.com/danarohraba...56300446930422
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I've been wondering the same thing. Thanks for posting.Originally posted by Woodsman View Post
Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.Comment
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It might be getting to the point where people are asking themselves, if we endorse the chop house known as the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, what the hell difference does it make what is going on in Syria? Of course, heads they win tails everyone loses because taxpayer support for KSA gets recycled back to ISIS. Meanwhile we bomb the secular regime because I guess our beheaders are better than their beheaders?Originally posted by Woodsman View Post
Of course there's our NATO obligations to defend Western Europe from attack by a country that hasn't existed for a quarter century. There we defend NATO member Turkey from attack by Russia while Turkey attacks Russian airplanes over Syrian airspace on the pretense of violating Turkish airspace. Only Turkey regularly threatens NATO member Greece with air incursions and shoot-downs when it's not busy providing aid and comfort to our sworn enemy ISIS, currently being bombed by the same Russia NATO is supposed to be defending Turkey from.
Saudi Arabia carrying out 'unprecedented wave' of executions
An artist sentenced to death for apostasy. Three young Shia Muslims - arrested when they were minors - faced with beheading. And reports in the Saudi press of the imminent execution of more than 50 people.
Saudi Arabia's use of the death penalty has sparked international alarm.
The country's human rights record has been back in the news since January, when liberal blogger Raif Badawi was flogged after being convicted of insulting Islam.
That same month, disturbing video emerged of a Burmese woman accused of murder screaming: "I did not kill" until the moment her head was severed with a sword on a Saudi street.
So far this year, more than 150 people have been executed - the highest figure recorded by human rights groups for 20 years.
Dozens of them were convicted of non-violent crimes, including drug offences. Human rights activists say many of the trials were unfair.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34982154
Meanwhile back at home our infrastructure crumbles, employment participation rate craters, and now we have the pleasure of sending our daughters to combat as well as our sons to fight and die for Israel and Saudi Arabia's foreign policy. All while our Republican and Democratic leadership happily gets their palms greased by both the House of Saud and Eretz Israel, be they the Bush faction on the far right or the Clinton faction on the center right.39,181 VIEWS
Turkish Jets Violated Greek Airspace Over 2,000 Times Last Year [Infographic]
Even though Turkey has outlined its tough stance and rules of engagement when it comes to intruding aircraft in its own skies, it has hugely increased its own violations of airspace claimed by Greece over the past three years. Data recorded by the Greek military has shown that Turkish aircraft violated its claimed airspace 2,244 times in 2014. By October of this year, Turkish aircraft had made 1,443 intrusions with the financially-weakened Greek military stuggling to respond.
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Saudi Arabia Continues Hiring Spree of American Lobbyists, Public Relations Experts
Saudi Arabia is in the market for a better reputation in Washington, D.C.
In September alone, foreign lobbying disclosure documents show the Saudi government signing deals with PR powerhouse Edelman and lobbying leviathan the Podesta Group, according to recent disclosures.
Edelman, the largest privately owned public relations agency in the world, is known for helping clients win favorable media coverage on mainstream outlets. The Podesta Group is a lobbying firm founded by Tony Podesta, a major fundraiser for the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign.
The new signings are the latest in a year-long hiring spree by the Persian Gulf state as it further builds up its already formidable political arsenal inside the Beltway. The Saudi Arabian Royal Embassy did not respond to a request for comment.
In March, the Saudi Royal Embassy retained two influential lobbying firms,DLA Piper and Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman. DLA Piper, for instance, employs a small army of former government officials, including retired U.S. Sens. Saxby Chambliss and George Mitchell. Also in March, the embassy retained two firms that specialize in analyzing big data for political clients, Targeted Victory and Zignal Labs.
Saudi Arabia’s political operation already includes former Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn., who chairs one of the largest Republican Super PACs in the country, as well as the public relations firm MSLGROUP/Qorvis, and Saudi Aramco, the state-owned oil company that funds several influential American political groups, including the American Petroleum Institute. Aramco’s U.S. subsidiary, Saudi Refining, is a registered agent of the Saudi government. The government also finances a number of think tanks and universities, and has made contributions to prominent American nonprofits, including the Clinton Foundation.
https://theintercept.com/2015/10/05/...elation-firms/
But yeah, because liberals. So it goes.
Secret Sheldon Adelson Summit Raises up to $50M for Strident Anti-BDS Push
Pro-Israel activists headed home from Las Vegas last weekend resting easy that raising money to fight boycott and sanction campaigns on campus just got a lot easier.
Although checks have yet to be written, deep-pocketed donors like summit organizer Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban pledged tens of millions to their cause.
“You work together and we will raise you the money,” promised Israeli-American businessman Adam Milstein following the conference for Israel activists that took place there over the weekend. “You no longer have to worry about financing and fundraising. You just need to be united.”
Milstein, a California real estate developer, who was among the key organizers of the first Campus Maccabees Summit, as the gathering dubbed itself, made his comments to Boaz Bismuth of Israel Hayom, an Israeli daily owned by casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, the host of the closed-doors Vegas summit, which took place at Adelson’s own Venetian hotel. Israel Hayom was the only media outlet granted access to the meeting, which was otherwise closed to press coverage.
Participants, true to the maxim that what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, declined to discuss any financial pledges made during the summit in Sin City. But based on the organizers’ own guidelines, it is clear that tens of millions of dollars were raised to combat campus campaigns to boycott, divest from and sanction Israel — or BDS, as the movement is known.
Adelson and his fellow conference organizers limited participation in the event to donors willing to pledge at least $1 million over the next two years. With some 20 donors taking part at the meeting, the total dollar amount raised is estimated to be at least $20 million. A Jewish communal leader who did not attend the meeting but who spoke to the organizers said that, in fact, the overall funding goal for Adelson’s Campus Maccabees was $50 million.
Some in the Jewish community have voiced concerns about the right-leaning nature of the initiative, from which liberal Zionist groups were excluded, and the effect this might have on its prospects for success on campus. The two-day gathering brought together 50 Jewish organizations representing mostly right wing and hawkish viewswith some mainstream campus organizations taking part as well. Other key mainstream organizations dealing with BDS were invited but declined to attend.
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The liberals seem to be getting their way on the issue of importing foreign combatants. So I guess women in the military really doesn't matter since women are dying on the front lines already on our own soil.Originally posted by Woodsman View Post
And how do the conservatives come to our rescue from liberal lunacy? They send troops thousands of miles away where there are few if any Americans to defend, but create lots of cover for more insurgents embedded in streams of refugees.
How about liberals win on foreign policy and conservatives start winning on domestics policy? Well no because its all bullshit.
Our lords national identities are in their gated communities and their over seas assets. The people out side their gates are nothing but rabble they will not mind at all unless it threatens their electricity or gas line to the mansions, in exactly the same way they will bomb anyone who gets close to their pipe lines, vital to American interests thousands of mile away.Comment
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Every country has the government it deserves.Meanwhile back at home our infrastructure crumbles, employment participation rate craters, and now we have the pleasure of sending our daughters to combat as well as our sons to fight and die for Israel and Saudi Arabia's foreign policy. All while our Republican and Democratic leadership happily gets their palms greased by both the House of Saud and Eretz Israel, be they the Bush faction on the far right or the Clinton faction on the center right.
That's what you get when you keep electing whimpy, gutless, corrupt, politically correct lairs to be your government.Comment
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Reminds me of a book I hope you would enjoy:Originally posted by gwynedd1 View Post
"How much money would I have to take from you so I don't lose your respect?"
Crocker Fenway chuckled without mirth. "A bit late for that, Mr. Sportello. People like you lose all claim to respect the first time they pay anybody rent."
"And when the first landlord decided to stiff the first renter for his security deposit, your whole [f*cking] class lost everybody's respect."
"Ah. So you're looking for what, a refund? Plus how many years' interest? That'd be a bookeeping issue, but I expect we could come up with that."
"Nothing to you, couple hundred bucks, just something to roll up and snort coke through. But see, every time one of you gets greedy like that, the bad-karma level gets jacked up one more little two-hundred dollar notch. After a while that starts to add up. For years now under everybody's nose there's been all this class hatred, slowly building. Where do you think that's headed?"
"...one more episode in a struggle that's been going on for years now...against high-density tenement scum without the first idea of how to clean up after themselves."
"Bullshit, Crocker, it's about your property values."
"It's about being in place. We -" gesturing around the Visitors Bar and its withdrawl into seemingly unbounded shadow, "we're in place. We've been in place forever. Look around. Real estate, water rights, oil, cheap labor – all of that's ours, it's always been ours. And you, at the end of the day what are you? One more unit in this swarm of transients who come and go without pause here in the sunny Southland, eager to be bought off with a car of a certain make, model, and year, a blonde in a bikini, thirty seconds on some excuse for a wave – a chili dog, for Christ's sake." He shrugged. "We will never run out of you people. The supply is inexhaustible."
"And you don't ever worry," Doc grinned back cordially, "that someday they'll turn into a savage mob screamin around outside the gates of PV, maybe even looking to get in?"
Shrug. "Then we do what has to be done to keep them out. We've been laid seige to by far worse, and we're still here. Aren't we."
"And thank heaven for that, sir."
Inherent Vice. Thomas Pynchon (fair use yadda yadda...)Comment
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These people have a lot to learn from good religion. The supply of people wanting simple vice is inexhaustible, but the supplies are not. It is much wiser to promise rewards in heaven since in that case the promise is also inexhaustible. Eventually I don't think they have a prayer.Originally posted by Woodsman View PostComment
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