Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

[Guest]

Re: Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

what matters is who says it first. everything above is an ripoff of something ej said long ago. there's not even one original phrase in here never mind an original idea. the whole explanation about how the fed can inflation now no matter what because of no gold standard and on and on.

i'd like confirmation that ej is publishing harper's... as i guessed. for over 100 years they only publish original writers and original thinkers. that settles it as far as i'm concerned as to who is first and original and all that. one of the freds? ej? can you confirm?

of course there are other ka-poom believers now... now that it's happened once after ej said it would, in 2001. but i'm still worried about whether it will happening again and how. a debt deflation is a whole different ballgame.

i'm not sure stagflation is real. as one guy said on another forum "it's is the temporary transition state between debt origination liquidity expansion and debt default and redemption liquidity contraction" and "The holding of that money and reluctance to circulate, out of fear, is what brings the velocity to zero."

how do we have inflation when V = 0?

I didn't realize that teaching people about how the economy works, then showing how it's screwed up today, and giving them some ideas about how to manage their money accordingly so they can avoid disaster, was something that one could copyright and exclude others from. It's a petty man who jealously guards knowledge that could help his fellow human beings w/o cost to himself.

Life is not always about competition and "me first". iTulip is a very valuable resource, but I doubt 1/10th as many people have heard about it as have read his book and have benefitted from it.

I guess they should tar and feather Donald Trump for writing books about real estate. I mean, how original is buying low and selling high, really?

Peter's book is entertaining and informative. Isn't that enough? I also read the book EJ contributed to and enjoyed it also.

[Gnosis]

Re: Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

I recommend Ty Andros's investment advisers service.

If you read through all these "Fingers of Instability" articles it casts quite a wide focus on current events. I also believe we'll see $150 oil well within the next 24 months, and commodities prices soaring far further than people are ready to believe in the next 3-7 years.

I think inflation (global, not just in the US) is about to really rip loose seriously - if not already, then soon.

Here are Ty Andros articles links, all collected:

Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 | Part 5 | Part 6 | Part 7
Part 8 | Part 9 | Part 10 | Part 11 | Part 12 | Part 13


Ty Andros investment advisers I think have a $50,000 minimum. But you may agree from reading through this set of articles that Mr. Andros has a quite finely nuanced and supple understanding of the mechanisms of inflation. This adviser group will probably have no shortage of ideas of how to position in this market.

Lukester

Thanks Lukester. I will read these and get back to you

[Guest]

Re: Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

Gnosis -

OK, I'll look forward to seeing what you think.

I've got a question for Fred here. I notice everyone on these threads posts Peter S C H I F F 's name as "Schiff". I had noticed a week or so ago, when I posted his name into a thread, the browser 'interpreted' it into the post as "Schiff". and not S C H I F F. I erased the thread reference and re-posted it, and once again the text posted online is showing up as "Schiff".

Please note, this so-called glitch is causing me to go back in and re-edit this post, as all my references to S C H I F F have already been converted to S C H I F T Y.

Is this some kind of glitch that you are aware of? After Gnosis' post today brought this thread to my attention, I noticed the re-appearance of "Schiff" all over this thread. What gives? This is a highly unfortunate "glitch" - we may not all agree with Mr. S C H I F F 's views in many respects, but he's definitely one of 'the good guys', so perhaps this bears checking out?

Just a thought.

Respectfully,

Lukester

testing: : : Peter Schifty

N.B.! Fred - this is a head's up. It just did so again. I did not type in "Schifty" . The web browser is inserting "Schifty" every time I type in -- S C H I F F

Please investigate and correct this "glitch"? This is a small but not irrelevant liability?

testing again (second test) : : : Peter Schiff

[Rajiv]

Re: Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

Yes it does it for me too -- If it is one of the Freds playing a prank, it is most unfortunate -- and it detracts from the trustworthiness of itulip. If S-chiff is modified to Schifty then other things could be changed and entire posts changed from what was said originally. This type of happening is most unfortunate.

[Guest]

Re: Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

Yes it does it for me too -- If it is one of the Freds playing a prank, it is most unfortunate -- and it detracts from the trustworthiness of itulip. If S-chiff is modified to Schifty then other things could be changed and entire posts changed from what was said originally. This type of happening is most unfortunate.

Yes. If this was intended as a prank or spoof it does not display this website in the best light?

Anybody else got a constructive suggestion around here, or are you all frozen like deer in the headlights? Remember, it's a sign of character if one remembers to speak out on principle, rather than be tethered to the buddy system.

Type this line into a post window, and then click "PREVIEW":

<< I'd rather fly by Braniff Airways than have a tiff with Peter Schiff, who may become the plaintiff in a defamation suit one of these days. >>

[Slimprofits]

Re: Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

It isn't a glitch, it's a feature of vbulletin. The same thing is done on forums powered by phpBB and probably other platforms. And yes, this particular usage doesn't seem like a good choice for ITulip.

[Rajiv]

Re: Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

It isn't a glitch, it's a feature of vbulletin. The same thing is done on forums powered by phpBB and probably other platforms. And yes, this particular usage doesn't seem like a good choice for ITulip.

Why for heavens sake would it do that and not enter what one types in?

Added:

This is not true - see Gold & Silver Forum > Main Category > General Discussion which is powered by vBulletin® v3.6.8 - so this is something that has been set up by Fred (s) for Itulip -- and this automatic modification of user posts IS NOT OK -- and it greatly detracts from Itulip's credibility

[Slimprofits]

Re: Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

Why for heavens sake would it do that and not enter what one types in?

I could be wrong, but think that whomever said it was prank put in place by a moderator is correct.

The software feature recognizes the word or phrase that end users such as us type in and modifies it to whatever has been set by the moderator.

Do you want to see a link to an example of it another forum?

[Slimprofits]

Re: Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

This is not true - see Gold & Silver Forum > Main Category > General Discussion which is powered by vBulletin® v3.6.8 - so this is something that has been set up by Fred (s) for Itulip -- and this automatic modification of user posts IS NOT OK -- and it greatly detracts from Itulip's credibility

I didn't write that the feature is optional in the software, but that is implied. It is definitely something that is activated with moderator access.

[Rajiv]

Re: Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

yes it is a prank -- but modifying user posts is not acceptable form in a forum -- it detracts from itulip -- it does not add to its credibility. Such actions are childish and do not show maturity -- and hence they detract from itulip's credibility.

[GeraldRiggs]

Re: Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

I am relatively new as a subscriber. However, I have been reading Itulip for about a year or so. Because of Itulip, Jan 07, I sold all my stock mutual funds and positioned myself in PM and FXE. So, far, I'm up quite a bit farther than I've ever been in a managed fund. My question is, with all that's happening economically, it seems as though the market has become deaf to it. It keeps going up when it should be going down. I don't understand. Is the market being manipulated by the fed and the powers that be???? Randy

[rtchoke]

Re: Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

I absolutely concur.

[metalman]

Re: Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

I am relatively new as a subscriber. However, I have been reading Itulip for about a year or so. Because of Itulip, Jan 07, I sold all my stock mutual funds and positioned myself in PM and FXE. So, far, I'm up quite a bit farther than I've ever been in a managed fund. My question is, with all that's happening economically, it seems as though the market has become deaf to it. It keeps going up when it should be going down. I don't understand. Is the market being manipulated by the fed and the powers that be???? Randy

no. markets don't go straight down. 99% of market participants don't get it...

debt deflation
recession
dollar depreciation (wait until it breaks 80 hard!)
inflation in the pipeline

we know about all these things here... have internalized them... but forget that most don't get it.... because they read the msm biz press and they read garbage bloggers. for example yesterday the msm says "retail sales unexpectedly rise!" and the markets go up. what they don't mention is that retail sales growth is measured in dollars and they are depreciating and deflating against goods, producing inflation. inflation is NOT economic growth! but try telling that to joe bonehead biz press reporter. then today you read about unemployment claims dropped by 3%! woohoo! recession's over! then they read one of the garbage bloggers who tells them "deflation is on the way!" while platinum hits $2,000 for the first time. there are not a lot of places to go to find out what the hell is really going on.

this little rallies are the PERFECT time to double down on short positions, imho.

i'd like to see itulip do an update on the recession. where are we at?

[Jim Nickerson]

Re: Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

I am relatively new as a subscriber. However, I have been reading Itulip for about a year or so. Because of Itulip, Jan 07, I sold all my stock mutual funds and positioned myself in PM and FXE. So, far, I'm up quite a bit farther than I've ever been in a managed fund. My question is, with all that's happening economically, it seems as though the market has become deaf to it. It keeps going up when it should be going down. I don't understand. Is the market being manipulated by the fed and the powers that be???? Randy

Randy, welcome to posting.

The notion of markets doing what one thinks they should be doing, in my opinion, can lose one a lot of money, or allow one to fail to make much money. For me it is impossible to look out days, weeks, months and much less for years or decades and actually believe that I can know what is going to happen over these periods of time. The shorter the time-frame in question--days, weeks, a couple of months--the more slightly confident I am as to what may happen--but absolutely I don't KNOW what is going to happen.

Richard Russell got me to believing stronger than ever that one must try to understand what the markets are doing vs. thinking one knows what they will do. It's damned hard I think to know what to do. There are some here who apparently can take a long-term view and apparently stick with some type of allocation, but I am not one.

I have made most of the errors one can make in investing and am sure I will continue to make some of which I am yet to learn, but when one invests, trades, speculates, or bets, I believe one should start out with the question of when will I give up on this position if it doesn't go my way?

If one is in PM's and some forms of currencies, one has to ask when am I going to sell these buggers?

Ole metalman, writes about "doubling down" in short positions, but what does he know (or what do I know), he "says" he's all in PM and that is all he as ever written as far as I recollect.

So, metalman, have you sold some metals now to raise some cash to play the short side?

[metalman]

Re: Crash Proof...How toprofit from the coming economic collapse

Randy, welcome to posting.

The notion of markets doing what one thinks they should be doing, in my opinion, can lose one a lot of money, or allow one to fail to make much money. For me it is impossible to look out days, weeks, months and much less for years or decades and actually believe that I can know what is going to happen over these periods of time. The shorter the time-frame in question--days, weeks, a couple of months--the more slightly confident I am as to what may happen--but absolutely I don't KNOW what is going to happen.

Richard Russell got me to believing stronger than ever that one must try to understand what the markets are doing vs. thinking one knows what they will do. It's damned hard I think to know what to do. There are some here who apparently can take a long-term view and apparently stick with some type of allocation, but I am not one.

I have made most of the errors one can make in investing and am sure I will continue to make some of which I am yet to learn, but when one invests, trades, speculates, or bets, I believe one should start out with the question of when will I give up on this position if it doesn't go my way?

If one is in PM's and some forms of currencies, one has to ask when am I going to sell these buggers?

Ole metalman, writes about "doubling down" in short positions, but what does he know (or what do I know), he "says" he's all in PM and that is all he as ever written as far as I recollect.

So, metalman, have you sold some metals now to raise some cash to play the short side?

when did i ever say i was 100% pms? i'm 30% pms and rest cash. now i do play about 10% of my money in spec and the debt deflation bear market has been playing out very nicely, thank you. don't know about richard russell but i recall he was saying "it's different this time" and talking about global growth, etc. the itulip dec. 27, 2007 call is only the 2nd time in 7 years that itulip has made a specific stock market call that i know of. if it turns out to be correct maybe you should write to russell and let him know.