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    If Britain’s 'other deficit' doesn’t worry policymakers, it certainly should

    The UK's current account deficit is the largest in the developed world, with growing worries about how it is financed

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    Britain lives well beyond its means, importing far more than it exports Photo: AP









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    By Jeremy Warner

    7:31PM BST 29 Sep 2015
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    Most of the news on the British economy right now is good. Unemployment is low and labour participation is at a record high. Growth is back to pre-crisis trend, investment is rising, albeit from exceptionally depressed levels, and with inflation at zero, there has been a welcome return to real wage growth. This has brought with it early signs of a revival in productivity.


    Yet there is something which feels not quite right about the nature of the UK’s economic recovery. You don’t have to look far to see the outward manifestation of this unease. Last year, the UK recorded a current account deficit – which is essentially the difference between what the country spends overseas and what it earns - of 6.5 per cent of GDP, the largest peacetime deficit ever, and by far the biggest in the developed world.


    Put simply, Britain is living well beyond its means, as indeed it has for a long time now.

    There are admittedly a number of reasons for believing the situation is not quite as bad as the headline figures suggest. Despite a still shockingly large deficit in goods, net trade as a whole, boosted by services – where Britain enjoys a substantial surplus - has been on a gently improving trend. The chief cause of the current account deterioration lies elsewhere in a sharp drop in the income Britain enjoys on its overseas assets.

    Over the past two decades, the UK has earned considerably more on these assets than it pays on its foreign liabilities. Ben Broadbent, deputy governor of the Bank of England, estimates that this overseas dividend has been enough to pay for a primary deficit of around 2.5pc of GDP a year since the early 1990s, which is quite a bonus.



    Unfortunately, that gap has narrowed significantly post the banking crisis, and just recently the balance has gone negative, an unprecedented event. In the low return world we now inhabit, this may, regrettably, have become a permanent state of affairs.

    The humungous size of Britain’s overseas balance sheet relative to other advanced economies – substantially the result of growth in its banking sector – makes the UK particularly vulnerable to this loss of income. Worse, on some measures, Britain’s overseas liabilities have in recent years come to exceed its assets, hardbaking the negative balance on income into the ongoing figures.

    There are two big conclusions to be drawn from these observations. One, highlighted in a speech by Mr Broadbent last year, is the importance for Britain of maintaining a credible economic policy framework, including inflation targeting and a rules-based approach to fiscal policy.

    Without them, foreign confidence in the UK would fast evaporate, and the rates Britain would have to pay for overseas money would go through the roof, further undermining the capital account. A balance of payments and accompanying sterling crisis would soon follow.

    Both these things – the inflation target and a credible fiscal strategy - would be in serious jeopardy under Corbynomics. Whatever else you might think of Gordon Brown, he at least understood the risks and took steps to insulate the economy from them. Jeremy Corbyn and his followers appear intent on precisely the reverse. They seem to have no understanding of the knife-edge on which the UK economy is balanced, having either forgotten or deliberately ignored the lessons of the 1970s. Confidence in Britain as a safe place for investment and business has never been more important for the country’s economic health than it is today.

    I’ve been much criticised on Twitter for pointing out that the one thing all hyper-inflations have in common – from Weimar to Zimbabwe – is monetary financing of government spending of precisely the type envisaged by “People’s QE”. No, I’m instructed by those who claim to know about these things, it is not money printing as such but institutional breakdown that causes inflation to spiral out of control.

    I would only disagree to the extent that few governments would ever try the slippery slope of monetary financing unless the ability to collect taxes and therefore to borrow had indeed broken down.

    Again, this is precisely what’s promised by Corbynomics, which fails to recognise the self-evident truth that if you squeeze business and wealth too far, it will simply go somewhere else or otherwise stop growing. Pretty soon a Corbyn government would have no option but to turn to the printing press.

    The other conclusion is a more troubling one, for in the general fascination with “the new politics” everyone seems to have forgotten that Mr Corbyn is not the Prime Minister nor ever likely to become so. A credible policy framework is, for the moment, secure, offering some protection against the “sudden stop” of an old-fashioned balance of payments crisis.

    Even so, the situation is fragile. External demand is subdued, and threatens to get worse still with the slowdown in China and other emerging markets. The commodities bubble is well and truly over, leaving a worldwide glut of industrial capacity that is likely to depress global investment spending for years to come. The marginal cost of goods, labour and even some services is increasingly set by a stagnant Europe and a slowing China, creating a persistent deflationary downdraft.

    To meet inflation, employment and growth objectives, the Bank of England is therefore forced to support domestic demand with a much higher degree of monetary accommodation than otherwise, sucking in imports from abroad and adding to the problem with the current account.

    At its last meeting, the Bank of England’s Monetary Policy Committee took some comfort from the fact that this time around, the deficit is financed more by foreign direct investment and portfolio flows than fast money. There are no obvious signs of another credit bubble. This ought to make the economy less vulnerable to a sudden reversal.

    Things nevertheless look precarious. The Gulf inflows of recent years are drying up, and unless it is China, it’s not at all obvious what might replace them. Furthermore, solid, if artificially generated, domestic demand in combination with a depressed external environment is bound to be causing some further erosion in competitiveness. Britain’s growth spurt may carry a heavy long-term cost.

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    Re: Oh Dear LIMEY SCUM............

    for Mike . . .

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      Re: Oh Dear LIMEY SCUM............

      For YEARS the Middleclass Scum has been "Sub-ed" by goverment "Working Tax credit" hand outs.........well we run out of cash & the NASTY cuts are a coming!

      Mike

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        Re: Oh Dear LIMEY SCUM............

        Originally posted by Mega View Post
        For YEARS the Middleclass Scum has been "Sub-ed" by goverment "Working Tax credit" hand outs.........well we run out of cash & the NASTY cuts are a coming!

        Mike
        the middle classes earn too much to qualify for tax credit, it is the working low paid poor who will see their income cut.

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          Re: Oh Dear LIMEY SCUM............

          Originally posted by don View Post
          for Mike . . .

          Bags under his eyes and a deeply underlying anger. This is a very good example of what has been haunting me for some time now; a large raft of VERY angry young people that clearly, do not believe in their future. It is one thing to see this in the young people of the Gaza Strip, quite another when it is a cosmopolitan 20 something year old with seemingly a good, well paid job living in central London. Well spotted Don.

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            Originally posted by Chris Coles View Post
            Bags under his eyes and a deeply underlying anger. This is a very good example of what has been haunting me for some time now; a large raft of VERY angry young people that clearly, do not believe in their future. It is one thing to see this in the young people of the Gaza Strip, quite another when it is a cosmopolitan 20 something year old with seemingly a good, well paid job living in central London. Well spotted Don.
            +1
            occurs to me that its also why the donald is so popular (on this side of the pond), eh Mr C ?

            (and or why the naked news (weather?) lady in russia was... ;)

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              Originally posted by lektrode View Post
              +1
              occurs to me that its also why the donald is so popular (on this side of the pond), eh Mr C ?

              (and or why the naked news (weather?) lady in russia was... ;)
              What worries me is, being now "elderly", it will be all too easy for the anger to spill over into taking it out on me and others like me. That it will be all too easy to place the blame for their deep anger onto my age group.

              PS: Missed that about the Russian lady; got a link?

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                Re: Oh Dear LIMEY SCUM............

                Originally posted by Chris Coles View Post
                What worries me is, being now "elderly", it will be all too easy for the anger to spill over into taking it out on me and others like me. That it will be all too easy to place the blame for their deep anger onto my age group.

                PS: Missed that about the Russian lady; got a link?
                hell, Mr C - its already happnin over here - the millenials flatout wont even hire us old guys (and i'm only a '58 model, fer chrisakes! ;)

                and eye cant recall where it was, but the goog remembers:
                https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...aked+news+lady
                (cept most of the links are now dead...)

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                  Re: Oh Dear LIMEY SCUM............

                  Originally posted by Chris Coles View Post
                  Bags under his eyes and a deeply underlying anger. This is a very good example of what has been haunting me for some time now; a large raft of VERY angry young people that clearly, do not believe in their future. It is one thing to see this in the young people of the Gaza Strip, quite another when it is a cosmopolitan 20 something year old with seemingly a good, well paid job living in central London. Well spotted Don.
                  Here's my theory FWIW - and it's not very well developed:

                  I think the frustration is just a function of people in certain places looking for an answer to why their lives changed/are changing. Why?

                  And I think maybe as someone in central London he just lives in an area where lots of normal life things changed, and people who live in metro cores like that want to know why life has changed so dramatically.

                  I don't know London that well. I'm in Boston. Almost every day I here people around here say, "Why did X get so expensive?" And it's not just normal inflation we're talking about.

                  Even thirty-somethings have memories of deciding whether to go to a Red Sox baseball game or go to the movies as kids. They were the same price. Now the Red Sox game is 500% more. And yet the explosion of major league salaries and prices hasn't trickled down to the minors, never mind our famous Cape Cod league we go down to visit in the summer. Everything's hyper-concentrated at the top.

                  The superstar effect is rampant. Minor League salaries and prices don't even keep up with inflation. Major League salaries and prices and profits increase by double-digit percentages every year. This has been happening all over the economy. You can be better at baseball than 99.9997% of people. You get nothing for it but living in poverty in a low wage job. But if you're better than 99.9998% of people, you're a multi-millionaire. This is an incredibly new phenomenon. In 1990, there were only 2 professional hockey players in the NHL that earned a million dollars or more: legends Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux. Now, 25 years later, that's close to league minimum salary. Players today who will never be legends earn $10 million per year. $50 to $100 million over a career is not uncommon. Same game. But different.

                  Why did rent and housing prices explode? I know this is true in London as well as Boston. At least here, we haven't had much by the way of population growth. Our housing stock is old by US standards. Lots of houses are well over a century old and in worse shape than they were 20 years ago. But now Somerville's filled with more Harvard and MIT kids than native sons, who can't afford to live in their neighborhoods anymore. Why did it happen?

                  Or, better yet, the question I hear far more often than Why? - Who? Who can afford to take their kids to a Patriots football game these days? It can cost a week's median salary to take a family to a game. Who can afford to pay $4,500/mo for a floor in a beat down 19th century triple-decker? Who can afford those new luxury condos on the Red Line? Who can afford that new bar charging $10 per beer? Who's buying all this stuff?

                  People are always asking, Who? And they're asking it rhetorically. But they're asking it. It's confusing. There were always nice places downtown for doctors and lawyers and executives or whomever. But now 20 miles outside of the city center there are places in formerly middle-class towns that are just obscenely expensive. I mean new buildings are going up charging $50,000/year or $100,000/year or more in rent alone for a 2-bed apartment. Doctors, lawyers, professors, even dentists can't afford that kind of nut. Where does the money come from? Who's moving into these places? People want to know who.

                  The implication typically is that it's not the locals. That used to be their town. Their city. Their place. Now it's somebody else's. But where do these people come from? How do they afford this?

                  And I think these questions are not asked as often in a lot of places outside of core metro regions. Part of why I think there's a real geographical political disparity on questions of redistributive policies - at least in the United States - is that there's a real geographical disparity in inequality, and people can feel it.

                  Utah, Alaska, Wyoming - these places carry a GINI coefficient of about .4. There are no major league parks. You don't run into people who could buy and sell every one of your extended family's entire assets on a whim in the streets every day. You never have to walk past a block where your cousins grew up on your way to work every day, aware that nobody you know could ever afford to rent there now. The superstar effect focuses itself in big cities.

                  States like Massachusetts, Connecticut and New York have a coefficient up around .55. They feel it differently. They experience it first hand. So you get these unfocused things like Occupy and the Rent is too Damn High Party. People glom onto it because they can feel things have changed. They've moved up the curve. They've been priced out of neighborhoods and stores and ballparks and places they used to be a part of.

                  And these are people like that newscaster who have decent jobs and aren't necessarily doing badly. In Massachusetts, many of them have good college degrees. They may be engineers or nurses or some other relatively highly skilled and highly paid profession. And they may have received raises over the years. But they still can't keep up with some of the explosion in asset prices they see around them. So they look for the reason why.

                  And I think that's where a lot of the anger comes from. It's main source is daily experience that forces one to tap into those questions. There's a feeling like some Faustian bargain has been made, like the social contract is breaking down, like there's an invading class of people pricing out even the professional class from the neighborhoods and activities they used to enjoy.

                  In the end of the day, certain especially politically motivated people might care deeply about an abstract concept such as income inequality.

                  But I think most people just care about what they experience day-to-day.

                  And I think that's the root source of the anger.









                  PS: It doesn't help when it seems like justice is breaking down and the wealthy and well-connected get away with murder by just paying a fee.
                  Last edited by dcarrigg; October 14, 2015, 09:09 PM.

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                    Re: Oh Dear LIMEY SCUM............

                    Originally posted by Chris Coles View Post
                    Bags under his eyes and a deeply underlying anger. This is a very good example of what has been haunting me for some time now; a large raft of VERY angry young people that clearly, do not believe in their future. It is one thing to see this in the young people of the Gaza Strip, quite another when it is a cosmopolitan 20 something year old with seemingly a good, well paid job living in central London. Well spotted Don.
                    I wouldn't lose too much sleep over this Chris. It's satire. In the finest British tradition.

                    Here's more of Jonathan Pie's work if you want a good chuckle:


                    http://voxpoliticalonline.com/tag/jonathan-pie/

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                      Re: Oh Dear LIMEY SCUM............

                      Originally posted by lektrode View Post
                      hell, Mr C - its already happnin over here - the millenials flatout wont even hire us old guys (and i'm only a '58 model, fer chrisakes! ;)

                      and eye cant recall where it was, but the goog remembers:
                      https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...aked+news+lady
                      (cept most of the links are now dead...)
                      Thanks for the link Mr L but was unimpressed. Comedy has to be a lot more subtle than simply dropping your trousers; which anyone can do. But it does show the difference between stupidity and real talent, so not a totally lost cause.

                      Being a '71 model, (assuming your '58 means age rather than year of birth), I can see your point. Which is why I am continuing to work on my proposals to create millions of jobs where, your age then becomes very relevant, as it will guarantee the skills necessary to set up anew and take up the challenge to re-create the necessary prosperity.

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                        Re: Oh Dear LIMEY SCUM............

                        Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                        I wouldn't lose too much sleep over this Chris. It's satire. In the finest British tradition.

                        Here's more of Jonathan Pie's work if you want a good chuckle:


                        http://voxpoliticalonline.com/tag/jonathan-pie/
                        Thanks GRG. However, while I do agree it is a great demonstration of satire, we have to accept that many of the young may very well not quite see the satire and instead read the underlying anger as real rather than false. Jonathon Pile is addressing a very real problem; an underlying dissatisfaction with their lives.

                        On the one hand we do need to smile; on the other, we need to address why he is so successful. Leadership needs to turn a new page; towards a more positive future rather than the negative we see here with Mr Pile.

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