Tory win in UK, Mega VERY unhappy!

[Mega]

..........& its not what you think!

I hoped for a Labour victory in the UK, after all these are the BASTARDS that went for "Buy-2-Let"...they jacked up the house price market to make up for falling Northsea Oil/Gas production.

I knew that once in they "PRINT BABY!" & the UK £ would crash & burn................sadly so did everyone else thus they voted TORY !!!!!!!!!!!!!

BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
;(
Mike

[don]

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Marc Faber's Perspective:

Interview Transcript

Dr Marc Faber:
Number 1: I don’t think it’s about Greece economically. it’s about the ECB and European banks that have lent money to Greece and if Greece defaults would have to take a huge loss and write-off. so they will lend more money and kick the can down the road.

Number 2; and this is overlooked by many people, it’s a political issue. if Greece leaves; or if Portugal leaves; or if Spain leaves; or if anyone leaves; the NATO countries led by America, basically, are very afraid that either the Russians establish closer relationship…. you have to look at the geography of eastern europe. You have the northern part of the Mediterranean – The Black Sea. And there you have Crimea Island and to the east of Crimea Island you have Eastern Ukraine.

The Russians will never give up Eastern Ukraine. It’s like the Chinese will not give up Hainan Island, you understand? It’s not going to happen under any condition. The West can bitch and talk and whatever they want – they’re not going to give it up.

CNBC:
I’m trying to figure this out – what has this to do with Greece not leaving the EU?

Dr Marc Faber:
Well this is what i am trying to explain to you because you have little knowledge of the Eastern European geography. from The Black Sea the Russian fleet can move into the Mediterranean and without that, they can’t – they have no access to the Mediterranean, without The Black Sea and Crimea.

And in the Mediterranean you have first Turkey, Moldavia and then Greece…and Greece is a very strategically important part of Europe.

CNBC
So you’re saying that at any cost the EU will make sure Greece stays in so Putin can’t get his hands….cannot recapture the glory of the Soviet Union…?

Dr Marc Faber:
Basically, America has had the Wolfowitz doctrine to contain countries like China and Russia. And why do you think is? Xi in Russia and is prominently featured with Putin? This is the new world order. And Americans and the western countries – You just had the news on Cameron. You look at Cameron. What interest is he to the people of the world? Britain is no longer an empire – it’s a degenerated country….Britain is a great country but economically it’s completely meaningless.

[Mega]

Re: Tory win in UK, Mega VERY unhappy!

He gets it!

" Britain is no longer an empire – it’s a degenerated country….Britain is a great country but economically it’s completely meaningless."

[don]

Re: Tory win in UK, Mega VERY unhappy!

He gets it!

" Britain is no longer an empire – it’s a degenerated country….Britain is a great country but economically it’s completely meaningless."

thought you might agree . . . .

[GRG55]

Re: Tory win in UK, Mega VERY unhappy!

He gets it!

" Britain is no longer an empire – it’s a degenerated country….Britain is a great country but economically it’s completely meaningless."

Hmmm. Let's see. According to World Bank figures the 143 million people in the Russian Federation generated economic output of US$ equivalent 2.049 Trillion in 2013. In that same year the 64 million people in the UK generated US$ equivalent 2.678 Trillion (almost 30% more in absolute terms, and almost triple on a per capita basis). From 2014 to 2016 inclusive the economy of the Russian Federation is forecast to shrink. Unlike the UK.

The UK is economically meaningless?? Methinks all the blather about Putin and Russia is seriously overblown.

Russia is to China today what the East Indies were to the Dutch, the Congo was to Belgium, the Caribbean was to Spain, or India was to Britain in earlier times.

[vt]

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+1

[dcarrigg]

Re: Tory win in UK, Mega VERY unhappy!

Hmmm. Let's see. According to World Bank figures the 143 million people in the Russian Federation generated economic output of US$ equivalent 2.049 Trillion in 2013. In that same year the 64 million people in the UK generated US$ equivalent 2.678 Trillion (almost 30% more in absolute terms, and almost triple on a per capita basis). From 2014 to 2016 inclusive the economy of the Russian Federation is forecast to shrink. Unlike the UK.

The UK is economically meaningless?? Methinks all the blather about Putin and Russia is seriously overblown.

Russia is to China today what the East Indies were to the Dutch, the Congo was to Belgium, the Caribbean was to Spain, or India was to Britain in earlier times.

Only this time the "natives" come with a culture that fetishizes suffering and spears tipped with nuclear warheads.


Come tell us how you slew
Them ol' Arabs two by two,
Like the Zulus they had knives and bows and arrows;
Of how bravely you faced one with your sixteen-pounder gun,
And you frightened all the natives to the marrow.

[Mega]

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The "City" is just total FRAUD, strip that out & we are good enough to face Detriot............
Mike

[lektrode]

Re: Tory win in UK, Mega VERY unhappy!

or CHI.towne...

[GRG55]

Re: Tory win in UK, Mega VERY unhappy!

The "City" is just total FRAUD, strip that out & we are good enough to face Detriot............
Mike

So what would you call all those empty cities in China? Forward planning??

[GRG55]

Re: Tory win in UK, Mega VERY unhappy!

Only this time the "natives" come with a culture that fetishizes suffering and spears tipped with nuclear warheads.


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Bingo! It is Russia that is economically irrelevant; it has a small economy and will never be a serious global economic power on par with the UK.

However, Russia wields considerable political power by virtue of its nuclear weapons and the thugs that run the place. Who do you think North Korea, Pakistan and Iran want to emulate?

We here on the iTulip forum, unlike Marc Faber, are best to recognize that difference.

[dcarrigg]

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Bingo! It is Russia that is economically irrelevant; it has a small economy and will never be a serious global economic power on par with the UK.

However, Russia wields considerable political power by virtue of its nuclear weapons and the thugs that run the place. Who do you think North Korea, Pakistan and Iran want to emulate?

We here on the iTulip forum, unlike Marc Faber, are best to recognize that difference.

It takes a lot to slog through even skimming Nikolai Karamzin's 12-volume History of the Russian State. But I think it's somewhat instructive. A few months ago in Sochi when Igor Shuvalov was going on about how he'd rather sanctions didn't end because it was forcing Russia to modernize, he wasn't talking about trying to put together some new export industry. Ditto with the new elbrus processors announced today. The idea isn't necessarily maximizing economic output. It's self-sufficiency, even if it must be with inferior goods. That's what they're up to out in Zelonograd. Fortress Russia is the dream, not rags to riches. I'm just not sure they'll ever get there.

[Mega]

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At lest they built SOMETHING.............not shifted "Paper" back & forth!

[Mega]

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[gwynedd1]

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Hmmm. Let's see. According to World Bank figures the 143 million people in the Russian Federation generated economic output of US$ equivalent 2.049 Trillion in 2013. In that same year the 64 million people in the UK generated US$ equivalent 2.678 Trillion (almost 30% more in absolute terms, and almost triple on a per capita basis). From 2014 to 2016 inclusive the economy of the Russian Federation is forecast to shrink. Unlike the UK.

The UK is economically meaningless?? Methinks all the blather about Putin and Russia is seriously overblown.

Russia is to China today what the East Indies were to the Dutch, the Congo was to Belgium, the Caribbean was to Spain, or India was to Britain in earlier times.

I think those numbers are pretty bogus. One will hear of how some people live on a dollar a day which is absurd in a direct comparison to Western society. What makes this possible is the distortion of the FIRE effect. We very well know the UK has a huge FIRE sector that easily fits into the US empire. Military might or space flight don't really measure well by that metric. So as to real capability at this point, the UK has seen better days. The fuss is about Russia's military capability and they are far more capable then the backwater states we have been fighting.