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    http://www.modbee.com/local/story/152921.html

    Bargain houses largely unsold
    Courthouse-step auctions offer 1,336 properties in foreclosure -- 17 are sold

    By J.N. SBRANTI
    jnsbranti@modbee.com

    last updated: December 15, 2007 04:23:07 PM

    Another foreclosure record was set in November as 1,336 properties were offered to the highest bidder on the courthouse steps in Modesto, Merced and Stockton.

    Now here's the real surprise: Only 17 of them sold, despite lenders offering deeply discounted prices.

    Every weekday, starting about noon, auctioneers seek buyers for foreclosed properties of all shapes and sizes. But more times than not, no one bids.

    That's because foreclosed homes typically have unpaid mortgage debt far in excess of their current value. When no bidder is willing to pay off that debt, lenders usually get stuck owning the homes.

    That happened 411 times in Stanislaus County last month, sticking lenders with more than $139 million in unpaid mortgages, according to ForeclosureRadar, which tracks mortgage defaults.

    Of the 419 Stanislaus County homes that went to foreclosure auctions in November, only eight attracted bidders.

    Those who do bid are getting increasingly sweet deals, however, as lenders have begun slashing the prices they're willing to accept for foreclosed homes. To lure potential buyers, lenders have begun accepting starting bids far below the outstanding debt on foreclosed properties.

    "Investors at auctions typically will buy at a 30 percent discount to market," explained Sean O'Toole, who owns ForeclosureRadar. "So lenders are trying to give as much of a discount as possible to entice investors to buy."

    On Friday, O'Toole said, a foreclosed five-bedroom Modesto home on Hemstead Avenue went up for auction with a starting bid of $301,500, even though the lender was owed $537,000 from a delinquent mortgage.

    But that $235,500 discount apparently wasn't enough. O'Toole said no one bid, so the lender now owns the house.

    Lenders get more desperate

    O'Toole said the size of these discounts continues to grow as lenders get more and more desperate to unload properties.

    Early in 2007, O'Toole said, discounts were offered on about one-third of the homes in foreclosure auctions statewide, and those discounts averaged about $9,000. By November, he said, two-thirds of the state's homes in foreclosure auctions were discounted, with discounts averaging $48,000.

    Many of the foreclosed houses in Stanislaus, San Joaquin and Merced counties, however, are being discounted by $100,000 or more, O'Toole said.

    Dave Rhodes of Oakdale recently took advantage of one such deal. Two weeks ago, he bid $1 over the starting price for a 1,356-square-foot home on Poppy Patch Drive in Modesto. He was the only bidder and bought the house for $163,181, even though the lender had been owed about $264,000.

    "I'm not a big spender. I'm a bottom feeder," said Rhodes, who has been a regular at Modesto's foreclosure auctions for more than a year. He researches many of the homes being foreclosed, but rarely bids at auctions. His last purchase was in January, when he bought a fixer-upper in Empire.

    Hundreds receive no bids

    Discounted starting bids "have become more and more prevalent the last three months" in Modesto, Rhodes said. That's why he comes prepared to bid on great deals.

    Before potential buyers are allowed to bid, they must show the auctioneer a cashier's check for the full amount they're willing to bid. Rhodes said he had a cashier's check for $185,000 with him the day he bought the Poppy Patch home, so he could have gone higher had someone bid against him and he wanted to keep bidding.

    Competitive bidding is rare, however, even with discounted starting prices.

    Example: An Oakdale home on Ranger Street sold new in 2006 for $610,000. It went into default with an outstanding loan balance of $530,892. Last month at the foreclosure auction, the starting price was $395,000. No one bid.

    Also last month, a Manteca home on South Sonora Avenue that had an outstanding loan balance of $487,956 was offered for a starting bid of $331,500. No one bid.

    And in Merced, a home on West 22nd Street with an outstanding mortgage of $279,785 was offered at $153,000. No one bid.

    "There are literally hundreds of examples in these counties," O'Toole said about discounted properties going unpurchased. "They ... represent good opportunities for folks to buy properties directly from the bank at a deep discount."

    Lenders don't want the houses

    In San Joaquin County last month, for instance, 664 foreclosed homes went to auction, but only eight were sold to bidders. Lenders took back 656 houses with unpaid debts of more than $245 million.

    In Merced County last month, 253 homes went to auction, with only one receiving bids and being sold. Lenders took back the rest with unpaid debts of nearly $88.4 million.

    Statewide, 12,282 properties went to foreclosure auctions, but only 321 were sold to bidders. Lenders took back the rest, which had unpaid debts of nearly $4.8 billion.

    Those lender-owned foreclosed houses then typically are listed for sale with real estate agents or are privately auctioned off. Either way, lenders end up paying assorted commissions and fees to sell the property. While waiting for deals to close, the lenders must maintain the homes and pay taxes, insurance and assorted other ownership costs.

    "They don't want to hang onto those homes, mow those laws and pay those Realtor fees," said Rhodes, explaining why lenders are willing to give foreclosure auction bidders such good deals.

    Bee staff writer J.N. Sbranti can be reached at jnsbranti@modbee.com or 578-2196.
    How would you like to own the tranches of this batch?

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    Re: Courthouse-step auctions offer 1,336 properties in foreclosure -- 17 are sold

    Whoa ... those are some steep discounts not to get a bid.

    I'm really wondering what will happen to the newly constructed condo canyons between Rosslyn and Ballston here in Arlington over the next couple years. Some of those buildings are half empty still, but this is a great area to live (jobs, school system, quality of life) and the population is supposed to keep growing for some time.

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      Re: Courthouse-step auctions offer 1,336 properties in foreclosure -- 17 are sold

      Originally posted by Sapiens View Post
      http://www.modbee.com/local/story/152921.html



      How would you like to own the tranches of this batch?
      Our man Sean O'Toole has become The Man in the foreclosure data biz. Let's hear it for Sean!
      Last edited by FRED; December 19, 2007, 08:44 AM.
      Ed.

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      • #4
        Re: Courthouse-step auctions offer 1,336 properties in foreclosure -- 17 are sold

        Not so dismal auction results recently here in Portland.

        Roger Pollock said he wanted to sell a lot of homes at his two-day auction this weekend -- and he did just that.

        Pollock said he sold 141 homes for a total of $65 million at the Oregon Convention Center in what was one of the largest real estate sell-offs in Oregon history.

        Pollock's Buena Vista Custom Homes had advertised more than 240 homes to sell at auction. By comparison, Real Estate Disposition Corp., the Irvine, Calif. auctioneer, had never done a home builder's auction larger than 60 homes.

        Pollock turned to the auction when the housing market slowed this fall and his sales turned to a trickle. Rather than pay interest on his construction loans for a year or more until the homes sold, Pollock opted for the auction.

        Westside homes in Beaverton and Hillsboro sold best, Pollock said. None of the 29 Bend homes sold, and homes that are now rented didn't sell well, either. Pollock said the sales also will generate about $250,000 for charity.

        Although the homes looked especially attractive with super-low starting bids, some brokers were concerned that the homes had a higher, undisclosed "reserve price" that was the lowest Pollock was obligated to accept. But Pollock said about 96 percent of the homes he sold went for below the reserve price. The reserve price, he said, was equal to his costs.

        "We didn't make any money on these homes," Pollock said. "We lost money."
        "There's been this perception that this wasn't aboveboard," said Pollock, noting that each home has a one-year warranty, standard for Buena Vista's homes. "But I think the results speak for themselves. I did what I said I would do."

        About 1,900 people turned out for the auction.
        An average price of $461,000 doesn't exactly sound like a bargain to me. He claims to have "lost money" with prices like that? Not likely. Comments on local housing bubble blogs (especially one for Bend, OR) are full of rants about what a total scam this was, or any other auction across the country operated by Real Estate Disposition Corp.

        Not enough pain yet in Oregon for a real auction.

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          Re: Courthouse-step auctions offer 1,336 properties in foreclosure -- 17 are sold

          Originally posted by zoog View Post
          Not so dismal auction results recently here in Portland.

          An average price of $461,000 doesn't exactly sound like a bargain to me. He claims to have "lost money" with prices like that? Not likely. Comments on local housing bubble blogs (especially one for Bend, OR) are full of rants about what a total scam this was, or any other auction across the country operated by Real Estate Disposition Corp.

          Not enough pain yet in Oregon for a real auction.
          Interesting report. We are doing research for a piece on the recession and noted that in the last recession in 2001 Oregon was especially hard hit. Oregon's Gross State Product (GSP) for 2001 was -1.37% for the year. Oregon was one of only three states that suffered a negative GSP in 2001; the other two were Alaska and Michigan. California was close, with only 1.07% growth for the year. Interesting that Oregon is doing so well this time around. The next GSP report by the BEA comes out June 2008.
          Ed.

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            Re: Courthouse-step auctions offer 1,336 properties in foreclosure -- 17 are sold

            Originally posted by zoog View Post
            Not so dismal auction results recently here in Portland.

            An average price of $461,000 doesn't exactly sound like a bargain to me. He claims to have "lost money" with prices like that? Not likely. Comments on local housing bubble blogs (especially one for Bend, OR) are full of rants about what a total scam this was, or any other auction across the country operated by Real Estate Disposition Corp.

            Not enough pain yet in Oregon for a real auction.
            Just want to note that the Real Estate Disposition Corp auctions are NOT foreclosure auctions. They are well coordinated marketing events designed to help banks and builders clear inventory at the maximum possible price. So far they seem do being pretty well, through a combination of falsely advertising these as "foreclosure" auctions leading buyers to believe there will be bargains, extensive marketing, and actively working the crowd to create a competitive bidding environment.

            This is very different from most foreclosure auctions these days. Almost no one is showing up despite the deep discounts, and long-time auction investors appear to have notably slowed their purchase activities.

            Oregon and Washington have stayed surprisingly strong, likely in part due to folks cashing out of CA. Sales have now dropped by >40% in CA, and I think there will be a big impact in Oregon.

            Sean

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              Re: Courthouse-step auctions offer 1,336 properties in foreclosure -- 17 are sold

              Originally posted by SeanO View Post
              Sales have now dropped by >40% in CA, and I think there will be a big impact in Oregon.

              A recent auction in Phoenix left many unsold REO homeshttp://www.hudsonandmarshall.com/calendar.asp. The Ca. Real Estate down turn has evaporated capital flows to Vegas and Phoenix . Without the Ca. capital flow Vegas and Phoenix will eventually get back to average annual income pricing of product.

              Last edited by bill; December 19, 2007, 03:26 PM.

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              • #8
                Re: Courthouse-step auctions offer 1,336 properties in foreclosure -- 17 are sold

                Originally posted by SeanO View Post
                Just want to note that the Real Estate Disposition Corp auctions are NOT foreclosure auctions. They are well coordinated marketing events designed to help banks and builders clear inventory at the maximum possible price. So far they seem do being pretty well, through a combination of falsely advertising these as "foreclosure" auctions leading buyers to believe there will be bargains, extensive marketing, and actively working the crowd to create a competitive bidding environment.

                This is very different from most foreclosure auctions these days. Almost no one is showing up despite the deep discounts, and long-time auction investors appear to have notably slowed their purchase activities.

                Oregon and Washington have stayed surprisingly strong, likely in part due to folks cashing out of CA. Sales have now dropped by >40% in CA, and I think there will be a big impact in Oregon.

                Sean
                Thanks SeanO. I should have made it more clear (as the Oregonian article did not) that this was not a foreclosure auction. I gathered from blog comments that, as you said, the REDC sales are carefully marketed to give people the impression they're getting a great deal at an auction, but really the builder is making plenty.

                I follow news about the current housing situation in California because it's a glimpse of the future further up the coast, we just lag behind. Mortgage defaults in southern Oregon are up 165% from a year ago. Won't be too long before it hits Portland, and on to Seattle.

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                • #9
                  Re: Courthouse-step auctions offer 1,336 properties in foreclosure -- 17 are sold

                  Originally posted by SeanO View Post
                  ...Oregon and Washington have stayed surprisingly strong, likely in part due to folks cashing out of CA. Sales have now dropped by >40% in CA, and I think there will be a big impact in Oregon.
                  Our developers appear to be in various stages of trouble, especially out in the exurbs and suburbs. Some bits from a recent Oregonian article.

                  But demand for land and homes has plummeted, particularly in Clark County [WA] and Happy Valley [OR], where construction was most intense. As a result, developers are left to pay heavy interest on land sometimes worth less than they owe.

                  Developers without deep pockets are struggling to stay in business. Others have folded or lost property to foreclosure. In their wake, suppliers, excavators and street pavers try to collect millions in unpaid bills.

                  "I knew the market was going to correct, but to have it hit this hard, it's a big shock," said Debra Oester, vice president and lead real estate lender at the Bank of Clark County in Vancouver. "To have it come to a standstill like this, I've never seen it before. And I go back to '74."

                  Realtors promote Portland as one of the top three housing markets in the United States, and the rate of foreclosures remains far below the 1980s recession that rocked Oregon's timber-dependent economy. But there's clear evidence that new subdivisions built at the crest of the boom have suffered a swift and painful fall.
                  Developer Corey Harris said his company, Landmark Development, paid $7.2 million for about 60 acres on the peak in summer 2005. The deal seemed like a safe bet.

                  Harris would pay excavators to cut through the hillside to make 83 builder-ready lots. Harris said he already had a deal to sell the lots for $18.5 million. To pay his contractors, Harris' company took out a $12.3 million loan with Bay Bank of Longview, Wash., in July 2005.

                  The project fell behind schedule in the spring of 2006. The housing market sputtered that summer. And by September 2006, his buyer wasn't interested.

                  ...

                  In November, Bay Bank filed papers to foreclose on the subdivision to get its money back. Ed Cameron, Happy Valley's building official, says it's the first time in his nine years that he's seen an entire subdivision fall into foreclosure.
                  North Clackamas County, including Happy Valley, had 12 months' inventory of unsold homes in November, almost twice the figure from a year earlier.

                  Thinking back, Harris says: "Happy Valley was hot. Now, it's drowning."
                  As Zephyr struggled to pay its bills, its creditors, owed about $45 million, grew restless. ... On some of his projects, the debt owed by Gray's various companies far exceeded the value of the land.

                  One of Gray's companies borrowed more than $8 million to develop Regency Estates in Vancouver [WA]. ... A later appraisal valued the 17-lot subdivision between $1.6 million and $1.9 million.
                  St. Helens-based Decal Custom Homes, an active Portland-area builder, is scrambling to remain afloat amid dozens of creditors clamoring for money. Bank of America, for example, sued Decal and its principals in November, seeking repayment of $8.2 million. ... "Now it's a question of whether (Decal) can sell the land for half" its original asking price, said Al Kennedy, a Portland lawyer representing Schleining.

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