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    How does the GAGFO hypothesis account for the recent (3 months) price action in gold, oil, and the USD? My seat o' the pants take is that gold is wildly overbought/overvalued here. Oil down big, USD up big, gold up moderately.
    Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho

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    Gold is acting as a currency hedge. It's a Nirp world in the fits of competitive devaluation. Nothing from nothing leave something up.

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      Re: GAGFO and recent history

      Originally posted by goadam1 View Post
      Gold is acting as a currency hedge. It's a Nirp world in the fits of competitive devaluation. Nothing from nothing leave something up.
      As parities to the global central banking system take turns at currency devaluation to deflate debt against currencies -- forget "currencies wars" -- gold continues to ratchet up one currency at a time. Note that gold in yen is now nearly as high as at its all time peak. Gold in USD is last in line.

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        Originally posted by EJ View Post
        As parities to the global central banking system take turns at currency devaluation to deflate debt against currencies -- forget "currencies wars" -- gold continues to ratchet up one currency at a time. Note that gold in yen is now nearly as high as at its all time peak. Gold in USD is last in line.
        So based on price changes over the last couple of months, it is reasonable to say the Euro is next?

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          Re: GAGFO and recent history

          Originally posted by jneal3 View Post
          So based on price changes over the last couple of months, it is reasonable to say the Euro is next?
          The process started in November 2014. Gold in EUR is up 21% since Nov. 5. That's already greater than the 19% move in gold in JPY June 2013 to Jan 2015.

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          • #6
            Re: GAGFO and recent history

            Sort of like a round-a-bout, every one takes a turn at "Printing", but before long the round-a-bout will pick up speed...

            mike

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              Re: GAGFO and recent history

              Originally posted by EJ View Post
              The process started in November 2014. Gold in EUR is up 21% since Nov. 5. That's already greater than the 19% move in gold in JPY June 2013 to Jan 2015.

              currently:
              gold in yen: 139,872
              gold in euro: 1100.65
              gold in dollars: 1240

              basically gold is just in the midrange of each rise that ej documented a bit over a year ago.

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                Re: GAGFO and recent history

                Originally posted by jk View Post
                currently:
                gold in yen: 139,872
                gold in euro: 1100.65
                gold in dollars: 1240

                basically gold is just in the midrange of each rise that ej documented a bit over a year ago.
                I think that is the best news for gold holders in almost a decade. Isn't there a lot of debt still to deflate against?

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                  Re: GAGFO and recent history

                  Oh! Oh! ... Allow me... Gold in Canadian dollars? $40 Canadian Pesos away from an all time high, and I bet we break that in less than 2 weeks at the rate things are going.




                  In other news...
                  Canada sells off large chunks of its gold reserves

                  Source: http://globalnews.ca/news/2508940/ca...gold-reserves/

                  The latest data, published last week by the Department of Finance, show the total Canadian gold reserves have now dropped to 0.62 tonnes. That’s less than 0.1 per cent of the country’s total reserves, which also include foreign currency deposits and bonds.
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                  According to Lee, there may soon come a time when Canada’s gold reserves are entirely a thing of the past. There are better assets to focus on, he argued, calling the government’s decision to dump gold “wise and astute.”
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                  “It gives them more strategic flexibility to sell the gold, take the money and invest in U.S. government bonds, or United Kingdom bonds or French bonds or German bonds,” Lee said

                  ... which means... one day soon, I will hold in my hand more gold than the entire government of CANADA!!!

                  Last edited by Adeptus; February 12, 2016, 10:22 PM.
                  Warning: Network Engineer talking economics!

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                    Re: GAGFO and recent history

                    Originally posted by Adeptus View Post
                    Oh! Oh! ... Allow me... Gold in Canadian dollars? $40 Canadian Pesos away from an all time high, and I bet we break that in less than 2 weeks at the rate things are going


                    In other news...
                    Canada sells off large chunks of its gold reserves

                    Source: http://globalnews.ca/news/2508940/ca...gold-reserves/


                    ... which means... one day soon, I will hold in my hand more gold than the entire government of CANADA!!!

                    Amazing. Your CB must be even more incompetent than ours. I had not thought of it, but GAGFO must work in reverse for oil exporters---the cheaper oil is, the weaker their currency is, so the higher the gold price.

                    At any rate, by selling off the gold, they can invest in Vancouver Real Estate!

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                      Re: GAGFO and recent history

                      Originally posted by Polish_Silver View Post
                      Amazing. Your CB must be even more incompetent than ours. I had not thought of it, but GAGFO must work in reverse for oil exporters---the cheaper oil is, the weaker their currency is, so the higher the gold price.

                      At any rate, by selling off the gold, they can invest in Vancouver Real Estate!
                      They are already "invested" in Vancouver real estate. It's called CMHC.

                      The Government of Canada (the Bank of Canada) has for some very long time felt no need to hold any material amount of national reserves in gold bullion. Canada has significant gold reserves, mine production internal to its borders and net exports of bullion, and the view in Ottawa has been there will always be an available source of the barbarous relic.

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                        Re: GAGFO and recent history

                        Sprott may one day be the most popular canuck in all of Canada. I wonder if his take-over of GTU was related to these events.
                        "...the western financial system has already failed. The failure has just not yet been realized, while the system remains confident that it is still alive." Jesse

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                          Re: GAGFO and recent history

                          Originally posted by rjwjr View Post
                          Sprott may one day be the most popular canuck in all of Canada. I wonder if his take-over of GTU was related to these events.
                          More popular than Wayne Gretzky?

                          I think not........

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                          • #14
                            Re: GAGFO and recent history

                            Originally posted by ProdigyofZen View Post
                            More popular than Wayne Gretzky?

                            I think not........
                            More popular than those bacon eating, beer drinking hosers from the Great White North, Bob and Doug?

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                              Gold as inflation hedge

                              Originally posted by EJ View Post
                              As parities to the global central banking system take turns at currency devaluation to deflate debt against currencies -- forget "currencies wars" -- gold continues to ratchet up one currency at a time. Note that gold in yen is now nearly as high as at its all time peak. Gold in USD is last in line.

                              That is consistent with Gold as an inflation hedge.

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