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[don]

Re: Black Swan?

I read in another forum that there are non-Swiss people (Poland, Romania and Hungary were mentioned) with mortgages in Swiss francs. Estimates of 500k-700k people in Poland. The interest rates were significantly less, but now they're boned.

Whac-A-Peg: When The Wonderful Stability of Centrally Planned Fiat Currencies Ends

by Pater Tenebrarum • January 16, 2015

Communication Breakdown

This morning the Swiss National Bank did what central banks supposedly don’t do anymore nowadays: it surprised the socks off the markets. After still solemnly insisting in its most recent monetary policy assessment that it would “defend the minimum exchange rate of the Swiss franc against the euro with the utmost determination”, the SNB’s planners finally got cold feet and decided to abandon the policy without warning overnight (not that a warning would have done any good).

The market swiftly reassesses the EUR/CHF exchange rate – click to enlarge.

In so doing, the SNB’s board members have not only violated modern-day central bank etiquette, but have presented us with a reminder of how wonderfully stable today’s fiat currencies are. Bloomberg adopts a miffed tone of voice in its report on the matter:

“The Swiss National Bank unexpectedly scrapped its three-year policy of capping the Swiss franc against the euro in a U-turn that may change the perception of a century-old institution known for reliability.

In a surprise statement that sent shock waves through equities and currency markets, the central bank ended its cap of 1.20 franc per euro and reduced the interest rate on sight deposits, deepening a cut announced less than a month ago.

The shift marks an attempt by the SNB to reinforce its defenses of the economy before government bond purchases by the European Central Bank that could crumple the franc cap. The currency surged after the announcement, Swiss stocks including UBS AG tumbled and the chief executive of watchmaker Swatch Group AG said the policy shift would hurt exports. SNB President Thomas Jordan defended the move, saying surprise was necessary.

“It’s amazing that such a stoic central bank could end up abandoning such a long held policy with such short shrift,” said George Buckley, an economist at Deutsche Bank AG in London. “I thought we were out of the situation where central banks surprise so significantly as this.”

With reverberations hitting everyone from currency traders in London to mortgage holders in Poland, economists responded to the SNB announcement with comments including “surprise” and “seismic.” Coming from a nation that has attracted investors for its stability, the change captures the scale of the battle policy makers have repeatedly faced going back decades to rein in a currency popular with investors at times of crisis.”

FX trader Margo Spreadbottom upon hearing the news

These unreliable rascals! When the SNB originally announced its interventionist policy, no such indignation was in evidence at Bloomberg or elsewhere in the mainstream financial press. CHF holders sure got creamed at the time though, as the franc quickly collapsed after the announcement.

We conclude that any policy that results in money printing on a gargantuan scale and shuts down an avenue for investors trying to protect their savings gets the nod from our bien pensants in the financial media, regardless of whether the markets are “surprised” by it or not. On the other hand, ending the inflationary policy in the same manner appears to meet with opprobrium.


EUR/CHF, intraday, 15 minute chart – within a mere 20 minutes the euro had lost more than 30% against the Swiss franc at one point (looking at this in CHF/EUR notation, the Swiss Franc had gained nearly 50%). The wonderful stability of centrally planned fiat currencies in all its glory!

Bloomberg continues with the one sentence that should probably surprise no-one:

“None of 22 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News between Jan. 9 and Jan. 14 expected the SNB to get rid of its cap in 2015.”

This may be a good time to remember that no economists expect a recession in 2015, no economists expect additional declines in treasury yields, nearly all of them expect the dollar’s rally to continue, and none are particularly worried about the stock market. Who knows, maybe there will be more surprises in the course of the year.

While SNB president Thomas Jordan had to “defend” himself for taking the decision to undo the peg, the SNB has by no means abandoned its interventionist ways. While the minimum exchange rate against the euro is no longer enforced, the SNB has at the same time moved administered interest rates more deeply into negative territory:

“The decision has been a surprise for markets — you can’t do it in any other way,” SNB President Jordan told reporters in Zurich today. “We came to conclusion that it’s not a sustainable policy.”

The change comes just one week before ECB policy makers meet to discuss new stimulus, including quantitative easing, a move that may add to pressure on the franc against the euro. The SNB spent billions defending the cap after introducing it in September 2011. Jordan said today it may intervene again.

[…]To complement the lower deposit rate, the SNB also moved the target range for the three-month Libor to between minus 1.25 percent and minus 0.25 percent, from the current range of between minus 0.75 percent and 0.25 percent.

Yes, it was not a “sustainable policy” – we could have told Mr. Jordan that a long time ago. However, the same holds for negative interest rates, which are an utter absurdity. The natural or originary interest rate can never turn negative, as it is an inviolable, fundamental category of human action. A world in which human beings value future goods more highly than present goods is simply not thinkable. As Ludwig von Mises explains:

“Originary interest is a category of human action. It is operative in any valuation of external things and can never disappear.”

Indeed, if the natural interest rate were to turn negative, consumption would completely cease and we would soon starve to death. All our efforts and resources would be devoted solely to the production of future goods.

We know therefore with absolute certainty that the SNB’s negative interest rate policy is a severe distortion of the market, and will therefore result in as of yet unquantifiable negative consequences for the Swiss economy.

Why Did They Do It?

As one observer put it in a case of belaboring the obvious:

“It may show that the SNB doesn’t want to widen its balance sheet any more,” said Maxime Botteron, economist at Credit Suisse Group AG in Zurich.”

Well, duh. We would certainly agree that the SNB tried to preempt the ECB’s upcoming “QE” announcement. While the European Court of Justice has not yet delivered its final verdict, its advocate general Cruz Villalon has already said that the OMT program (“outright monetary transactions”) in his opinion is compatible with EU law. In the vast majority of cases, the ECJ follows the recommendations of the advocate general (we will soon comment on these developments in more detail in a separate post). Thus a QE program by the ECB in which sovereign debt is monetized is now very likely on its way.

The SNB no doubt got cold feet at this prospect. In order to see why, one needs to take a look at the Swiss monetary base.

Switzerland’s monetary base from January 1950 to November 2014 (the most recent data point available) – click to enlarge.

This explosion in the Swiss monetary base is a reflection of the accumulation of euro-denominated assets by the SNB in order to enforce the exchange rate floor. Stemming itself against yet another flood of newly printed euros in the wake of a sovereign QE program by the ECB would likely have resulted in the SNB’s foreign exchange reserves and balance sheet exploding even further into the blue yonder.

This is a monetary powder keg, not least as Switzerland’s money supply has increased more than that of any other major currency area as a side effect of these foreign exchange interventions. Switzerland has to contend with sizable real estate and stock market bubbles that have developed as a result. Incidentally, the Swiss stock market plummeted yesterday, which goes to show that rising stock prices are highly dependent on inflationary monetary policy.

The Swiss Stock Market Index (SMI) recovered from its intraday lows once the Swiss franc retreated somewhat from its intraday peak, but the losses were still quite significant by the close of trading, with the SMI declining by 8.67%.

The SMI readjusts as the Swiss franc soars.

Below is a chart of the Swiss monetary aggregates M1 and M2. M1 is the sum of outstanding currency plus sight deposits and transaction accounts, i.e., it is essentially equivalent to money TMS-1 (narrow true money supply). M2 also includes savings deposits and since the SNB differentiates between savings deposits and time deposits, we are assuming that these savings deposits are in practice available on demand as well, similar to US savings deposits. Thus M2 would be equivalent to money TMS-2 (broad true money supply).

As can be seen, the Swiss money supply has gown enormously since 2008. It is perhaps not too surprising that the SNB did not want to continue down this path, as the longer term consequences could prove quite problematic – this is to say, even more problematic than the bubbles that have been created up to this point as a result of monetary inflation.

In short, the SNB had to ponder whether the risks were still worth it – after all, aside from supporting the export sector, there is really no mileage for the Swiss in artificially suppressing the CHF exchange rate. An artificially low exchange rate can definitely not make Swiss citizens any richer.

Swiss monetary aggregates M1 and M2 – a truly breathtaking increase since 2008. Both aggregates have more than doubled since then, with M1 up by 122% since June of 2008 and M2 up by 112% over the same time period – click to enlarge.

Unintended Consequences on the Horizon

However, the sudden increase in the CHF’s exchange rate is certainly not without problems. As far as we can tell, one of the biggest problems is that there are still a great many CHF denominated mortgages and other consumer loans outstanding all over Europe. Banks flogged these loans prior to the 2008 crisis, as it was widely held that the Swiss franc would forever remain stable versus the euro.

In a number of Eastern European countries it was moreover widely expected that their currencies would also remain fairly stable against the euro, so it was concluded that they would concurrently remain fairly stable vs. the CHF as well. As we know today, these assessments were quite erroneous. However, since the SNB has instituted the minimum exchange rate peg in 2011, borrowers and creditors alike were able to catch their breath, and many presumably rearranged their affairs on the basis of the EUR-CHF rate remaining close to 1.20. Now this is no longer applicable, and one wonders how many mortgages and other loans are once again hopelessly underwater overnight.

It is a good bet that fewer of these loans outstanding are still outstanding today than in the 2008-2011 period, but the amounts are very likely still sizable – especially as everybody thought the exchange rate problem was out of the way. In coming months it should become clear how big the problem still is. Whether the SNB has given any thought to this we cannot say, but presumably it was more concerned about the consequences of continuing the exchange rate policy for Switzerland rather than what abandoning it means for foreign borrowers and lenders.

CHF/USD – the Siss franc rose somewhat less against the US dollar, but it was still a sizable move even so, erasing many months of losses – click to enlarge.

Conclusion

The SNB probably felt it had little choice in view of the ECB’s likely upcoming attempts to debase the euro further. In our opinion, it should have never attempted to enforce a minimum exchange rate in the first place. Then the markets would have adjusted more gradually, and instead of inflicting a sizable amount of pain in one fell swoop, the SNB could have given people an opportunity to deal with a strengthening CHF in a more orderly manner. Moreover, it would not have presided over a huge expansion of the Swiss money supply, the effects of which have yet to fully play out.

SNB chief Thomas Jordan – going from “utmost determination to defend the CHF-EUR peg” to “let’s skip it” overnight.Photo credit: Philipp Schmidli / Böoomberg

Addendum

In the meantime we have seen estimates that are putting the size of foreign loans denominated in CHF at around CHF 150 to 175 billion. This is a sizable chunk, and a lot of it is curiously found in Poland.

Charts by: investing.com, StockCharts, BarCharts & acting-man.com

[GRG55]

Re: Black Swan?

Looks like the SNBers enrolled in Central Banking 101 cut classes during the Forward Guidance and Macroprudential Regulation lectures.

[touchring]

Re: Black Swan?

I read in another forum that there are non-Swiss people (Poland, Romania and Hungary were mentioned) with mortgages in Swiss francs. Estimates of 500k-700k people in Poland. The interest rates were significantly less, but now they're boned.

This could create a financial crisis in Poland if the mortgagees decide to default on their Swiss francs loans.

[don]

Re: Black Swan?

a prime suspect . . .

Courtesy of Jesse's Cafe Americain

[don]

Is QE Kaput?


Gurley-Lord service station, San Francisco 1929

The Swiss have unleashed a pretty wild storm in financial markets. All sorts of companies and people today are licking their wounds, and quite a few will simply have to fold. It’s no exception to be so leveraged in foreign exchange wagers that a move of a few percent can wipe you out, let alone one of 30%. Leverage makes sure that right off the bat a whole bunch of foreign exchange brokers, including FXCM, the biggest, are literally dead in the water – FXCM stock fell 90% -.

We’ll hear about the real losses in the days and weeks to come, but rest assured they’ll be very substantial. Banks like Goldman, Deutsche and Barclays were heavily short the franc, and therefor of course, so were their clients. Many private investors have lost everything and then some. As if the losses from oil’s jump off the cliff weren’t damaging enough yet to the realm of finance. But, you know, the CHF franc was pegged to the slumping euro, so what did everybody really expect? The timing may have been a surprise, but come on ..

There’s number of lessons in this, but I don’t feel confident that they will be learned. If only because we’ve gotten so used to living in an upside down world that it has become a solid new normal, especially for those who’ve made a killing off of it. But everything, says physics, tends back to equilibrium. And we were many miles removed from that.

The world of finance decries the fact that the Swiss central bank didn’t ‘telegraph’ beforehand that they were going to get rid of the euro peg. And that’s completely upside down, right there. Even apart from the fact that the SNB move wouldn’t have worked if it had indicated it beforehand, what’s the idea behind central banks having to tell you anything at all? Just look at this from Bloomberg:

SNB Officials Eating Words Risk Lasting Investor Aches

Switzerland’s central bank officials have just eaten their words, risking lingering indigestion in financial markets. Just three days after Swiss National Bank (SNBN) Vice President Jean-Pierre Danthine called the franc cap a “pillar” of monetary policy, the SNB yesterday dropped the minimum exchange rate of 1.20 per euro. The shock abandonment of the SNB’s primary policy of the past three years may now leave investors warier of taking officials’ words at face value, according to economists including Karsten Junius, chief economist at Bank J. Safra Sarasin. By scrapping one tool, the franc cap, SNB President Thomas Jordan risks blunting the effects of another. “The SNB’s credibility has suffered a bit,” said Junius, a former economist at the International Monetary Fund.

“Statements will get read in the future with a bit more caution. Verbal interventions will hardly work any more.” The central bank’s regular pledge to defend the franc cap with “utmost determination” had become part of the institution’s brand, not least because of the success of that policy in protecting the country’s domestic economy. “They’ve lost part of their credibility, I think, ”Han De Jong, chief economist at ABN Amro told Angie Lau on Bloomberg TV. “Whatever they will say, markets will not trust them very much.” George Buckley at Deutsche also argues the SNB’s words are hard to reconcile with the SNB’s new policy stance. “Their commentary now means nothing,” he said. “This is not utmost determination, is it?”

Bank of England Governor Mark Carney has suffered similar criticism. He was labeled an “unreliable boyfriend” by one U.K. lawmaker last year for giving conflicting messages on the possible timing of interest-rate increases in the U.K. SNB President Jordan yesterday defended his surprise move, saying that a tool like the cap would always need to be abandoned unexpectedly. Anatoli Annenkov at SocGen agrees. “It’s something we aren’t used to anymore because most central banks are talking about warning markets, improving communication, not surprising anymore,” Annenkov said by phone from London. “But in such circumstances, there’s basically no other way to do this. Markets would have speculated, positioned themselves beforehand.”

There’s this sense of entitlement seeping through from this that makes you want to, I don’t know, shout, puke? Traders and journalists that chide a central bank for not giving them what they want, when they want it? On what logical basis? That Greenspan and Bernanke did it for years, and so screwed up the entire US financial system? That information from central banks is now some god-given right for traders and bankers? Are you nuts? Are we all? We now know the Swiss are not, or let’s say that for whatever reason they did what they did, they’re not completely off their rockers.

So how about other central bankers? Everyone seems to be sure now that Draghi at the ECB has more reason than ever, after the SNB move, to launch full tilt QE. And I’m thinking, I don’t know kiddos, perhaps he has less reason now, because the markets’ faith in central banks has taken a jolt, because the effectiveness of that QE, which has been in the works forever, has already been priced in by those markets, and because the Germans are sure to contest it all throughout their court system(s). What use would a Draghi QE be at this point? Close to zero. He might still do it, but that would just expose him as a tool. And he can resign and become Italy’s new president right after. And it’s not just Draghi:

The Swiss Just Made Japan’s Job Harder

Haruhiko Kuroda’s monetary “bazooka” just got outgunned by the Swiss. Since April 2013, Japan’s central banker has been pumping trillions of dollars into the economy in an attempt to generate 2% inflation. But in a mature, aging economy like Japan’s, the effort is 95% about confidence. In order to “drastically convert the deflationary mindset,” as Kuroda puts it, the Bank of Japan must transform sentiment among households and businesses. Kuroda’s massive bond purchases mean little if the Japanese don’t trust that better days lay ahead. The Swiss National Bank’s move to abandon the franc’s cap against the euro may have blown a hole in Kuroda’s strategy.

By reneging on a promise made time and time again that he wouldn’t ditch the policy, SNB President Thomas Jordan “has undermined the credibility of central banks,” says Simon Grose-Hodge of LGT. Now, at central banks around the globe, he adds, “the unthinkable is entirely possible. You can’t rule anything out.” Even if the BOJ issues another blast of quantitative-easing after its two-day policy meeting next week, the question is how effective the move would be. Kuroda’s Oct. 31 shock-and-awe stimulus announcement worked for a time by bolstering perceptions that steady inflation was within reach. But this time, with even Economy Minister Akira Amari admitting “it will probably be difficult” for the BOJ to succeed, markets are likely to be more skeptical of the bank’s staying power.

It’s not really the Swiss, central bank credibility was already shot through the past decade, if not more. You have no credibility as a central banker if you serve the interests of one particular niche. Like traders. You need to serve the interests of the entire nation you ‘serve’, or your time will come. No matter how much Draghi, Kuroda or Bernanke were tempted by the omnipotence narrative, deep down they must have known it wouldn’t last.

And now they have to face a new world, one they’re not used to at all. One in which their credibility is shot. I’m guessing that means they understand their ‘normal’ course of action, QE up the wazoo, no longer works. So what then?

Look, Draghi may well come up with that QE of his, but it’ll be stillborn. It’ll only be yet another transfer of money from the public to the private sector. Let’s buy a trillion worth of bonds! Yeah, that worked great for everyone else… But can Draghi still do that? Yes, it’ll bring down the euro for a bit, but the euro is going down no matter what he does. This is turning into a game of whodunnit. And then, of course, there’s the Fed:

Yellen Signals She Won’t Babysit Markets in Turmoil

Janet Yellen is leaving the Greenspan “put” behind as she charts the first interest-rate increase since 2006 amid growing financial-market volatility. The Federal Reserve chair has signaled she wants to place the economic outlook at the center of policy making, while looking past short-term market fluctuations.

To succeed, she must wean investors from the notion, which gained currency under predecessor Alan Greenspan, that the Fed will bail them out if their bets go bad – just as a put option protects against a drop in stock prices. “The succession of Fed puts over the years has led to a wide range of distortions in financial markets,” said Lawrence Goodman at the Center for Financial Stability. “There have been swollen asset values followed by sharp declines. This is a very good time for the Fed to move away.”

We’re getting back to normal, and though normal’s going to hurt – and far more than you realize yet-, it’s hugely preferable to upside down; you hang uprise down long enough, it makes your brain explode. The price of oil was the first thing to go, central banks are the next. And then the whole edifice follows suit. The Fed has been setting up its yes-no narrative for months now, and that’s not without a reason.

But everyone’s still convinced there won’t be a rate hike until well into this new year. And the Swiss central bank said, a few days before it did, that it wouldn’t. And then it did anyway. The financial sectors’ trust in central banks is gone forever. And none too soon. Now they’ll have to cover their own bets. If anything spells deflation, it’s got to be that. But not even one man in a thousand understands what deflation is.

We have a ways to go before we solve this puzzle. But we are, at least and at last, on our way.

http://www.theautomaticearth.com/central-banks-upside-down/

[GRG55]

Re: Is QE Kaput?

...Just three days after Swiss National Bank (SNBN) Vice President Jean-Pierre Danthine called the franc cap a “pillar” of monetary policy, the SNB yesterday dropped the minimum exchange rate of 1.20 per euro...

A "pillar of monetary policy" sounds much like "subprime is contained", "whatever it takes", "The BOJ's top mandate is price stability", "the U.K.'s economic recovery has exceeded all expectations", and other such pronouncements uttered by Central Bankers.

Any currency where the interest rate is negative is not a very safe short, and CHF cash accounts have been in negative territory for a while now (I hold a few CHF in my bank account for when I travel there and I know what that has been costing me).

I have some sympathy with the author's sentiment the whining about this from those on the wrong side of the trade, AND from the Bubblevision Babies that masquerade as financial journalists, has rather quickly become tiresome.

[Master Shake]

Re: Is QE Kaput?

Excellent article.

[thriftyandboringinohio]

Re: Is QE Kaput?

I'm confused about European mortgages denominated in Swiss franks.

I understand that all players expected the soft peg between CHF and euro to remain stable forever.

What confuses me is why bother?

Why not just issue the mortgages denominated in euros?
Why not just purchase a mortgage denominated in euros?

[FrankL]

Re: Is QE Kaput?

I'm confused about European mortgages denominated in Swiss franks.

I understand that all players expected the soft peg between CHF and euro to remain stable forever.

What confuses me is why bother?

Why not just issue the mortgages denominated in euros?
Why not just purchase a mortgage denominated in euros?

Basically it's the result of Swiss banks trying to expand their customer base abroad by offering low rate mortgages, while they don't want to take the exchange rate risk (rather force it upon their foreign customers who either willingly take the risk or don't understand the risks involved).

Note that most CHF-denoted mortgages outside of Switzerland were given to customers in Poland and Hungary, neither of which uses the Euro.

In fact, the Hungarian populist party (Fidesz) that has an absolute majority in government passed some laws a while ago that will convert CHF-denoted mortgages into Hungarian forints at a pre-determined fixed exchange rate (forcing the banks to swallow any exchange-rate losses beyond that point).

[thriftyandboringinohio]

Re: Is QE Kaput?

Thanks FrankL!

[don]

Swiss Miss

from Mish

It Only Takes One: Hedge Fund Manager Who Survived Five Debt Crises Wiped Out Overnight on Swiss Franc



Someone asked me for a list of winners and losers and what the unexpected move by the Swiss National Bank meant in the long term for Switzerland. I will address that later today.

First, consider one of the big losers who was wiped out overnight.

Bloomberg reports Swiss Franc Trade Is Said to Wipe Out Everest’s Main Fund.

Marko Dimitrijevic, the hedge fund manager who survived at least five emerging market debt crises, is closing his largest hedge fund after losing virtually all its money this week when the Swiss National Bank unexpectedly let the franc trade freely against the euro, according to a person familiar with the firm.

Everest Capital’s Global Fund had about $830 million in assets as of the end of December, according to a client report. The Miami-based firm, which specializes in emerging markets, still manages seven funds with about $2.2 billion in assets. The global fund, the firm’s oldest, was betting the Swiss franc would decline, said the person, who asked not to be named because the information is private.

Armel Leslie, a spokesman for Everest Capital with Peppercomm, declined to comment on the losses. Calls to Dimitrijevic weren’t returned.

Last year, the main fund rose 14.1 percent, driven by Chinese equities and bets against currencies, including a wager that the Swiss franc would fall after citizens rejected a referendum that would require the central bank to hold at least 20 percent of its assets in gold, the investor report said.

It Only Takes One

When you speculate with leverage, you can turn from being a hero to a goat in 15 minutes. Poof. $830 million in assets turned to ashes overnight.

Dimitrijevic grew assets over five crises, then lost it all on one bet, a recent one, speculating the wrong way on the Swiss Franc after Switzerland voted against a referendum on gold.

Morals of the Story

1. [*=left]Don't borrow money in other currencies, especially long-term mortgages.
   [*=left]Don't expect currency interventions to work forever.
   [*=left]Don't believe statements made by central bankers. They are not the economic wizards they are made out to be, and they often lie when it suits their purpose.
   [*=left]It only takes one wrong macro bet with leverage to make a fortune or wipe you out.
   [*=left]When you are speculating with other people's money, especially when you take in a 20% performance fee, there is a huge incentive to make leveraged bets

My guess, and it is just that, is all of Dimitrijevic's funds will see huge withdrawals. People will be wondering, and rightly so, "What the hell else is he doing?"

[don]

Re: Swiss Miss

Join Greg Hunter as he goes One-on-One with the best-selling author of “All The President’s Bankers,”Nomi Prins.

(note her consternation at the "gold question")

[DRumsfeld2000]

Re: Swiss Miss

Greg Hunter is becoming a joke when he keeps on with the same old story line that the US Dollar is about to collapse. For all its huge problems the US Dollar is the only place where large amounts of debt/funds can be placed. The Euro is collapsing and the Swiss Franc and UK Sterling are too small. Ther Yuan is not freely convertable.
The US Dollar will in all probability be replaced by a new world currency, but that is at least 5-10years away.
Greg Hunter does nothing to help gold holders like myself. His stupid comments simply make gold holders seem like extreemist idiots.

[don]

Re: Swiss Miss

Greg Hunter is becoming a joke when he keeps on with the same old story line that the US Dollar is about to collapse. For all its huge problems the US Dollar is the only place where large amounts of debt/funds can be placed. The Euro is collapsing and the Swiss Franc and UK Sterling are too small. Ther Yuan is not freely convertable.
The US Dollar will in all probability be replaced by a new world currency, but that is at least 5-10years away.
Greg Hunter does nothing to help gold holders like myself. His stupid comments simply make gold holders seem like extreemist idiots.

Yes, he's a boor. The occasional insightful guest he has on suffers along with the viewers. What makes it worthwhile is his amount of airtime is small.