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    UK oil firms warn Osborne: Without big tax cuts we are doomed

    Chancellor admits more action needed to boost industry in wake of oil price collapse

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    The Chancellor is preparing concessions for North Sea oil Photo: Philip Toscano/PA









    By Roland Gribben

    8:30PM GMT 11 Jan 2015
    344 Comments


    North Sea oil and gas companies are to be offered tax concessions by the Chancellor in an effort to avoid production and investment cutbacks and an exodus of explorers.


    George Osborne has drawn up a set of tax reform plans, following warnings that the industry’s future of the industry is at risk without substantial tax cuts.


    But the industry fears he will not go far enough. Oil & Gas UK, the industry body, is urging a tax cut of as much as 30pc and an overhaul of what it says is a complex, unfriendly and outdated tax structure.


    Mr Osborne asked Treasury officials to work on a new, more wide-ranging package than the 2pc tax cuts he promised in the Autumn Statement last month.


    The basic tax levy is currently 60pc but can run to 80pc for established oil fields. He plans to open talks with industry leaders this week on new options for the pre-election March Budget.

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    Mr Osborne acknowledged on Sunday that “more action” was needed. He said he could not pre-empt the Budget, but hinted strongly there could be a “further reductions in the burden of tax on investment in the North Sea”.

    Ed Davey, the Energy Secretary, is due in Aberdeen on Thursday for talks about investment, the jobs outlook and the help being provided by the new Government- backed Oil and Gas Authority.
    Industry leaders have presented the Chancellor with a bleak picture of the North Sea outlook after the big falls in the price of crude since the summer, and particularly the impact on the Scottish economy.

    Mike Tholen, the economics director at Oil and Gas UK, dramatically summed up the situation. “If we don’t get an immediate 10pc cut, then that will be the death knell for the industry,” he said. The industry sees the 10pc cut as a “down payment” to be followed by a further 20pc reduction to provide an investment incentive.

    The speed and scale of the collapse in oil prices, down almost 60pc to below $50 a barrel over the past five months, has forced North Sea operators in a high-cost oil basin to take emergency action.
    A modest recovery in exploration is almost at a standstill, some projects have been mothballed and cost-cutting programmes accelerated. Oil contract workers’ pay has been slashed by 15pc and redundancy programmes are under review.
    The industry’s “rescue” programme is simple, but costly. Allowances, supplementary taxes and other additions have made North Sea taxation one of the most complex in the business.

    Companies operating fields discovered before 1992 can end up with handing over 80pc of their profits to the Chancellor; post-1992 discoveries carry a 60pc profits hit.
    Oil & Gas UK wants the Chancellor to agree a single tax rate, with corporation tax pitched at 30pc. But one senior company executive said he feared the election could slow any reform measures.

    North Sea production has fallen sharply since reaching its peak 30 years ago when Britain was one of the world’s top four oil and gas nations. Combined oil and gas output has slumped from 4.5m barrels a day to around 1.5m at present.

    The government has been attempting to revive interest to increase the recovery rate, but inexperienced newcomers have struggled with high costs and small discoveries. Shell, BP and the other major operators are still involved, although on a much smaller scale. The biggest producer now is a Chinese state group operating under the Nexen name.

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    Re: YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS Sir-E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    He be PAYING them to pump before long!
    I guess what we looking at is a breatholding contest.......whom can keep going. Be in-ter-rest-ing to see if he bales them out or bales on them?
    Mike

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      Re: YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS Sir-E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Oh yeah, I forgot about Britain in this little oil dip. Norway too but then they did invest their oil money unlike Britain.

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        All that cheap Gas, oh so useful.............

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          A rich genre , given gas guzzling is the fat joke of of industrialized, consumer society.
          One of my favorites....



          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZeF...dk5gzyRQ6sF1z2

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            Re: YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS Sir-E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            FFS EJ hurry up & make me rich !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              Re: YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS Sir-E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              Originally posted by gwynedd1 View Post
              Oh yeah, I forgot about Britain in this little oil dip. Norway too but then they did invest their oil money unlike Britain.
              Yah, I heard the all went out and bought Tesla Model S electric sedans with wonky transmissions instead of a good, solid Bimmer.

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                Re: YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS Sir-E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                Originally posted by Mega View Post
                FFS EJ hurry up & make me rich !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                Forget it Mike. This is a Jeremy Clarkson plaything, with him in the GT racing a Veyron piloted by Hammond and May from London to Monaco or some such silly expedition. What YOU need is one of these (which will help in the search for the All American Girl btw):

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                  Re: YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS Sir-E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  Bought an F150 in the early 80’s. It got 20 mpg.
                  So 3 and a half decades of treading water. Ludicrous.

                  10,000 dollar profit margin?

                  49,000 sticker price?

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                    Re: YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS Sir-E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                    Originally posted by Thailandnotes View Post
                    Bought an F150 in the early 80’s. It got 20 mpg.
                    So 3 and a half decades of treading water. Ludicrous.

                    10,000 dollar profit margin?

                    49,000 sticker price?
                    In real terms a gallon of gasoline in the USA is cheaper now than it was in 1980. And better still, unlike the then immediate aftermath of the Iranian Revolution you don't have to line up for the stuff today. Reason enough to own TWO F150s

                    That is one thing I rather like about the USA. Other than California, they don't spend a lot of time telling you what you should drive, or forcing everyone to buy a glorified jelly bean on wheels that masquerades as a car.

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                      Re: YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS Sir-E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                      Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                      In real terms a gallon of gasoline in the USA is cheaper now than it was in 1980. And better still, unlike the then immediate aftermath of the Iranian Revolution you don't have to line up for the stuff today. Reason enough to own TWO F150s

                      That is one thing I rather like about the USA. Other than California, they don't spend a lot of time telling you what you should drive, or forcing everyone to buy a glorified jelly bean on wheels that masquerades as a car.
                      I just had a look at a purchasing power calculator.

                      I typed in $1 (the price of a gallon of petrol in the US in 1999 and the cheapest I reckon it was in PPP)

                      It just spit out $1.74 (the value of that $1 in 2015)

                      Coincidentally, the price of a gallon of gasoline in the US is showing a couple of $1.74 gallons of petrol in the US.

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                      Two multi-trillion dollar wars

                      A trillion dollar student debt anchor where young people don't buy cars and can't afford to buy houses

                      A trillion dollar housing bubble mess

                      A total derivative value that includes the need to invent new descriptions for numbers that big(20% bigger than 08 crisis)

                      Middle class liquidity is down the gurgler in a consumption based zombie economy

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                      How does a 2015 $1.74 that works out to a 1999 $1 still convert into 1 gallon of petrol currency?

                      Where do I exchange $1,740,000USD for future delivery of 1,000,000 gallons of petrol currency?

                      This is absurd. Where is Salvador Dali?

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                        Re: YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS Sir-E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                        Originally posted by lakedaemonian View Post
                        I just had a look at a purchasing power calculator.

                        I typed in $1 (the price of a gallon of petrol in the US in 1999 and the cheapest I reckon it was in PPP)

                        It just spit out $1.74 (the value of that $1 in 2015)
                        Let's see, losing 43% of purchasing power over 15 years. Yup, sure consistent with a "stable strong $ policy" and deflation.

                        Let's see, 23 year old EE grad gets a $50k/yr job in 1999 and now she's making $87.5k - wow, she sure is making progress - NOT - we really need the death or the rentier and the skim of the bankers and political classes to come to an end

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                          Re: YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS Sir-E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                          Moden supercars are too wide !!!!!!!!!!!!
                          The Macca F1 is 1830mm wide, same as an Audi tt..........the Modern supercar is 2000+ On British roads simply too big!

                          You need something like:-

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