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    It Can Wait. The buzz phrase, popularized by AT&T in a public service campaign, urges drivers to show restraint with their phones.

    But a growing number of drivers who make their living behind the wheel can’t wait. These are the drivers for Uber and its competitors, including taxi services, who, to make money, must respond nearly instantly to their smartphones.

    When a service call comes in from Uber — by way of a loud beeping on the phone — a driver typically has 15 seconds to tap the phone to accept the fare. That can mean looking at the phone, seeing how far away the customer is and then making a decision. Failure to respond in 15 seconds means the fare goes to a different driver. In some cities, including New York, failure to respond to several calls in a row can lead to Uber’s temporarily suspending a driver.

    In San Francisco, the home of Uber and the hub of car-service innovation, taxi drivers use software called Flywheel that aims to allow competition against Uber. It works like this: When a customer calls for a taxi, a message goes out to a handful of cabs nearest the customer; the fastest to touch the Flywheel phone app in response gets the fare.

    If no one responds within 20 seconds, the call goes out to another set of drivers. Think of hitting a game show buzzer, but perhaps while winding through dense urban traffic, with fog or rain and cyclists and pedestrians.

    The system puts drivers in a tough spot: answer or lose money.

    This month, misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter charges were filed against an Uber driver, Syed Muzaffar, who hit and killed a 6-year-old girl in a San Francisco crosswalk last New Year’s Eve. It is a matter of dispute whether Mr. Muzaffar was using his Uber software at the time of the accident.

    Two lawsuits, one filed against Uber and another against Lyft, contend the services are negligent by violating California’s law against driver use of hand-held electronic devices. The lawsuit against Uber, a wrongful death complaint filed in connection with the death of 6-year-old Sofia Liu, claims that the Uber technology is “inherently dangerous,” said Chris Dolan, lawyer for the family, which filed the suit.

    “We’re sacrificing safety for instant gratification,” he said, adding that the mother says that she saw Mr. Muzaffar using his phone.

    John Hamasaki, Mr. Muzaffar’s lawyer, said his client was not using his phone at the time of the accident. Mr. Hamasaki said Mr. Muzaffar had not yet entered a plea to the manslaughter charges. The maximum sentence he faces is one year in county jail.

    Abdoulrahime Diallo, a driver in New York and an organizer of the Uber Drivers Network, a group that he said had 2,500 members, said that the app had never been “personally difficult for him” because “it’s just a matter of pressing and accepting it and seeing where the fare is.”

    At the same time, he said, “It can be distracting if you are driving and you have to look at the phone.” He added that Uber made it hard to resist because drivers can be penalized with temporary suspensions for ignoring or declining calls.

    There is some logic to that, he said, in that he understands the policy to be that “if you’re online you should be willing to accept” fares.

    But David Bruder, 36, a part-time Uber driver in the Palm Springs area of California, said that while he had not had any distraction problems, he would prefer to be given more time. Maybe 25 seconds, he said. Even “an extra five seconds would be great,” he added. “I don’t think five seconds for a passenger is going to make all that big of a difference.”

  • #2
    Re: Life Behind the Wheel

    Originally posted by don View Post
    ... The lawsuit against Uber, a wrongful death complaint filed in connection with the death of 6-year-old Sofia Liu, claims that the Uber technology is “inherently dangerous,” said Chris Dolan, lawyer for the family, which filed the suit.

    ...
    I wonder if Mr. Dolan also sued the manufacturer of the mobile device that was being used, the maker of the automobile that was being driven and the company that provided the wireless network, all as being "inherently dangerous"?

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    • #3
      Re: Life Behind the Wheel

      when the lab rat presses the bar to get a food pellet, who or what is responsible?

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      • #4
        Re: Life Behind the Wheel

        Originally posted by jk View Post
        when the lab rat presses the bar to get a food pellet, who or what is responsible?
        well thats an easy one, jk...

        wait for it.....

        who's responsible?

        the bar, of course...

        the tort bar sez so.

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        • #5
          Re: Life Behind the Wheel

          The few Uber drivers I've met either had lost their jobs, had their hours and/or wages cut, and had never been a professional driver before.

          In a "healthy" economy, could Uber find enough drivers to function at their level of efficiency?

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          • #6
            Re: Life Behind the Wheel

            Originally posted by don View Post
            The few Uber drivers I've met either had lost their jobs, had their hours and/or wages cut, and had never been a professional driver before.

            In a "healthy" economy, could Uber find enough drivers to function at their level of efficiency?
            Maybe Uber is the Visicalc of our time?

            There is absolutely no doubt that the supply-managed taxi license model days are limited.

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            • #7
              Re: Life Behind the Wheel

              Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
              Maybe Uber is the Visicalc of our time?

              There is absolutely no doubt that the supply-managed taxi license model days are limited.
              The Uber cars I've ridden in were much cleaner and nicer than the taxis . . . .

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              • #8
                Re: Life Behind the Wheel

                Yes, soon be NO Driver either!
                Mike

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                • #9
                  Re: Life Behind the Wheel

                  Originally posted by Mega View Post
                  Yes, soon be NO Driver either!
                  Mike


                  That would be a good thing IMO. Most drivers today have become too stupid to be trusted with such responsibility.

                  Twenty years ago people somehow managed to drive without cellphones. In some states it was even illegal to drive while eating or drinking beverages. It was understood that when operating a multi-ton steel missile with the capacity to kill people, driving SAFELY should be the ONLY priority.

                  Now, the priorities are to take that call, send that call, get a fare, read that Facebook like, respond to that offending tweet...

                  Every driver holds the lives of strangers in their hands. Most people don't think about that until someone gets killed, like my husband. Driving is treated like a video game with no real-life consequences for miscalculation.

                  Using a cellphone, whether handheld or remote, while driving impairs the driver as badly as being drunk. Drunk driving is against the law. So should cellphones be while driving. Period. The only reason they're allowed is lobbying from the industry and the denial of drivers who value convenience over safety: "Other people might be impaired while using a cellphone while driving, but I'm not!"

                  There are a million justifications for why cellphones should be allowed while driving, but with the consequences for failure being so serious, those justifications are nothing more than rationalizations for selfishness. We have become a society of convenience-addicted, "me first" narcissists.

                  Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Life Behind the Wheel

                    "Other people might be impaired while using a cellphone while driving, but I'm not!"
                    Polls consistently show a large majority of drivers placing themselves in the "better than average" category.

                    In the last couple of weeks here in geriatric SoFla I've been: cut out of my turning lane by the adjacent lane driver; forced into a row of plastic barriers by a lane-changing adjacent driver; and a hard braking to avoid a right-turn-on-red driver that pulled out in front of me on a 45 MPH road at approximately 5 MPH. They all got the horn and looked either bewildered and/or apologetic, a better response than a fight with fist, club or gun. The scariest moment I had while driving in traffic was seeing a woman driver behind me, in a big ol' Buick, age approximately 80, on her cellphone. Couldn't wait to shake her off my tail.

                    Good post, Shiny!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Life Behind the Wheel

                      Originally posted by shiny! View Post
                      That would be a good thing IMO. Most drivers today have become too stupid to be trusted with such responsibility.

                      Twenty years ago people somehow managed to drive without cellphones. In some states it was even illegal to drive while eating or drinking beverages. It was understood that when operating a multi-ton steel missile with the capacity to kill people, driving SAFELY should be the ONLY priority.

                      Now, the priorities are to take that call, send that call, get a fare, read that Facebook like, respond to that offending tweet...

                      Every driver holds the lives of strangers in their hands. Most people don't think about that until someone gets killed, like my husband. Driving is treated like a video game with no real-life consequences for miscalculation.

                      Using a cellphone, whether handheld or remote, while driving impairs the driver as badly as being drunk. Drunk driving is against the law. So should cellphones be while driving. Period. The only reason they're allowed is lobbying from the industry and the denial of drivers who value convenience over safety: "Other people might be impaired while using a cellphone while driving, but I'm not!"

                      There are a million justifications for why cellphones should be allowed while driving, but with the consequences for failure being so serious, those justifications are nothing more than rationalizations for selfishness. We have become a society of convenience-addicted, "me first" narcissists.
                      Might peer pressure be the solution?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Life Behind the Wheel

                        That's a good idea. Needs to go further to include phone calls as well as texts.

                        The drunken-like impairment while talking on the phone happens because when the audio portion of the brain is engaged, the visual portion is not. They can't both work simultaneously. That's why hands-free phones don't help.

                        Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Life Behind the Wheel

                          Although i do speed from time to time i am VERY into car safety. One thing that does upset me is the thickness of "A" or "B" pillers. I drove an VW Golf from the early 80's last month & was shocked just how much more visablty (information) there was.

                          Sadly Piller HAVE to be very thick these days for crash resitance, but Jag may have the answer:-

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                          • #14
                            Re: Life Behind the Wheel

                            Originally posted by Mega View Post
                            Although i do speed from time to time i am VERY into car safety. One thing that does upset me is the thickness of "A" or "B" pillers. I drove an VW Golf from the early 80's last month & was shocked just how much more visablty (information) there was.

                            Sadly Piller HAVE to be very thick these days for crash resitance, but Jag may have the answer:-
                            Cool stuff!

                            I agree with you- those A and B pillars block a lot of visibility. It's easy to miss pedestrians at crosswalks. Changing lanes is a nightmare. Backing out of parking spaces is awful. Every day I drive my Hyundai Accent I'm tempted to sell it and go back to an old Crown Vic. It was such a pleasure to drive.

                            Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Life Behind the Wheel

                              After due considerations, the conclusions are:

                              Effective employment of current technology

                              User friendly convenience

                              A distressed economy that provides enough 'independent contractors'

                              That absorb the bulk of the overhead

                              = functional Uber, Airbnb, Lyft, etc.

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