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    By Matt Taibbi | December 13, 2014

    Gosh, the Democrats are really pushing hard to save a key portion of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street reform bill, aren't they? Like tigers, or Siamese fighting fish they battle! Thrilling to watch!

    Oh, wait, that's what they aren't doing. Actually what we're watching in the "Cromnibus" budget fight, is a stage-managed surrender that was inevitable pretty much from the moment the ink began to dry on the so-called sweeping reform of Wall Street the Democrats passed years ago.

    The dominant media narrative this past week has been that Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren, firmly saddled in her high horse, is trying to hold up the passage of the budget over a trifle. In reality, the so-called "Citigroup" provision to kill a rule designed to prevent future bailouts (so named because it was allegedly written by Citigroup lobbyists) is potentially quite an evil and destructive little thing. But the nitpicking counter-spin is already coming hot and heavy.


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    "It's a marginal regulation," said Patrick Brennan of the National Review, about the Dodd-Frank rule Warren wants to keep. Brennan bro-ishly dismissed "Liz" as an "indefatigable academic" who is "picking a fight that really can't be said to help or hurt the economy," a political fight that is "hardly a hill to die on."

    Republicans like South Carolina Senator Linsey Graham derided Warren's gambit as an immature squabble and blasted Democrats in the House who followed her line of thinking. "Don't follow her lead," he said. "She's the problem."

    Making the budget fight a news story not about bailouts, but about the ambitions of Elizabeth Warren, is part of the game. And the Beltway hacks have succeeded there. Media on all sides have described last week's episode as Warren's political coming-out party. Former Obama aides sent a letter urging her to run for president, and Fox news said the rebellion showed Warren has the "clout" to "disrupt the best plans of the establishment."

    The Atlantic saw the budget fight as an episode that secretly thrilled the Republicans, who came away with a powerful new talking point: Warren's "star is rising," and she's pushing the Dems leftward, to a platform that wouldn't carry a general election.

    "Every leading Democrat," said RNC spokescreep Sean Spicer, "feels like Elizabeth Warren is looking over their shoulder to go further to the left."

    All of this is infuriating on multiple levels, but mainly because Warren's opposition to the Citi provision wasn't a left-leaning move at all. It was very much a conservative position. Ayn Rand herself, dragged from the grave and lashed to a chair on the floor of the Senate, would have argued the same thing.

    All the Dodd-Frank rule says is that if you're a federally-insured depository institution – if you're an FDIC-guaranteed bank, where real people have real bank accounts that are guaranteed by the federal government – you can't also be gambling with swaps and other dangerous derivative instruments.

    Think of it in terms of a workman's compensation law. If you're going to be insured against injury by the state, the state should get to demand that you don't engage in fire-eating or base-jumping during work hours.

    There's no logical argument against the provision. The banks only want it because they want to use your bank accounts as a human shield to protect their dangerous gambling activities.

    Thus it was no surprise when JPMorgan Chase chief Jamie Dimon started personally calling lawmakers this week to make sure the Citigroup provision passed. Dimon's bank is the poster child for this rule, since the infamous London Whale episode of a few years ago is exhibit A of what this rule is designed to prevent: a trillion-dollar federally-insured depository bank engaging in tons of unsafe financial sex with risky derivatives, leading to spiraling losses in the billions that imperiled the savings of millions of ordinary people.

    Both parties are moving against their ideological reputations in this fight. On one side, we have "conservatives" in the House and Senate who want to put taxpayers on the hook for massive future welfare payments. We had to have Senate hearings last year after the London Whale episode, which by itself ought to have infuriated conservatives everywhere. After all, why should the government have to get involved if Jamie Dimon feels like losing $6 billion at the blackjack table? Why is that our business?

    Well, we had to have those hearings because the offending gambler, JPM, was and is a company whose bank deposits were federally insured. All Chase has to do is untether its consumer bank from its lunatic hedge fund, as both Warren and genuine conservatives like David Vitter want, and the state wouldn't have to so much as blink when these rich dweebs rack up big gambling losses.

    Meanwhile, on the other side, we have "liberals" in the White House and in the lame-duck Senate leadership who are nakedly whoring for big business in this affair, unashamedly doing favors for banks like Citigroup and JPMorgan Chase that in recent years have racked up tens of billions of dollars in penalties for a smorgasbord of corrupt practices. Establishment Democrats like Harry Reid almost certain to cave and wave through the Citigroup provision, foregoing a filibuster-type standoff.

    Why? As Warren has cannily pointed out, veterans of Citigroup have dominated the Democratic Party establishment for quite a long time now, through figures like current Treasury Secretary Jack Lew and former Clinton Treasury Secretary Bob Rubin.

    Conservatives for welfare, and liberals for big business. It doesn't make sense unless we're not really dealing with any divided collection of conservatives or liberals, and are instead talking about one nebulous mass of influence, money and interests. I think of it as a single furiously-money-collecting/favor-churning oligarchical Beltway party, a thing that former Senate staffer and author Jeff Connaughton calls "The Blob."

    What's happening here is that The Blob, which includes supposed enemies like Reid and Graham, wants to give donation-factory banks like Citi and Chase a handout. But a coalition of heretics, including the liberal Warren, the genuinely conservative Vitter and (surprisingly to me) the usually party-orthodox Nancy Pelosi is saying no to the naked giveaway.

    Is killing the Citigroup provision really worth the trouble? Is it a "Hill to die on"? Maybe not in itself. But the key here is that a victory on the swaps issue will provide the Beltway hacks with a playbook for killing the rest of the few meaningful things in Dodd-Frank, probably beginning with the similar Volcker Rule, designed to prevent other types of gambling by federally-insured banks. Once they cave on the swaps issue, it won't be long before the whole bill vanishes, and we can go all the way back to our pre-2008 regulatory Nirvana.

    If the Democrats actually stood for anything other than sounding as progressive as possible without offending their financial backers, then they would do what Republicans always do in these situations: force a shutdown to save their legislation. How many times did Republicans hold the budget hostage to rescue the Bush tax cuts?

    But the Democrats won't do that here, because they're not a real party. They're a marketing phenomenon, a big chunk of oligarchical Blob cleverly sold to voters as the more reasonable and less nakedly corrupt wing of a two-headed political establishment.

    So they'll punt on this issue in the name of "maturity" or "bipartisanship," Wall Street will get a nice win, and Hillary Clinton or whoever else is being set up as the Blob candidate on the Democratic side will receive an avalanche of Financial Services donations to stave off Warren (who will begin appearing in the press as an unhinged combination of Lev Trotsky and Spartacus). A neat little piece of business all around. I don't know whether to applaud or throw up.


    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...#ixzz3Ly5s4JEQ

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      Originally posted by don View Post
      ...Hillary Clinton or whoever else is being set up as the Blob candidate on the Democratic side will receive an avalanche of Financial Services donations to stave off Warren (who will begin appearing in the press as an unhinged combination of Lev Trotsky and Spartacus). A neat little piece of business all around. I don't know whether to applaud or throw up.
      ...In 3, 2, 1:

      "Intellectually undemanding progressives, excited by the likes of Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) — advocate of the downtrodden and the Export-Import Bank... "

      Progressives Also Responsible For Inequality

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        Re: Taibbi on our 2-Party Thang

        Originally posted by don View Post
        By Matt Taibbi | December 13, 2014

        ... what we're watching in the "Cromnibus" budget fight, is a stage-managed surrender that was inevitable pretty much from the moment the ink began to dry on the so-called sweeping reform of Wall Street the Democrats passed years ago. ...

        Republicans like South Carolina Senator Linsey Graham derided Warren's gambit as an immature squabble and blasted Democrats in the House who followed her line of thinking. "Don't follow her lead," he said. "She's the problem."

        Making the budget fight a news story not about bailouts, but about the ambitions of Elizabeth Warren, is part of the game. And the Beltway hacks have succeeded there. Media on all sides have described last week's episode as Warren's political coming-out party....

        All of this is infuriating on multiple levels, but mainly because Warren's opposition to the Citi provision wasn't a left-leaning move at all. It was very much a conservative position. Ayn Rand herself, dragged from the grave and lashed to a chair on the floor of the Senate, would have argued the same thing.

        All the Dodd-Frank rule says is that if you're a federally-insured depository institution – if you're an FDIC-guaranteed bank, where real people have real bank accounts that are guaranteed by the federal government – you can't also be gambling with swaps and other dangerous derivative instruments.

        Think of it in terms of a workman's compensation law. If you're going to be insured against injury by the state, the state should get to demand that you don't engage in fire-eating or base-jumping during work hours.

        There's no logical argument against the provision. The banks only want it because they want to use your bank accounts as a human shield to protect their dangerous gambling activities. ...

        Both parties are moving against their ideological reputations in this fight. On one side, we have "conservatives" in the House and Senate who want to put taxpayers on the hook for massive future welfare payments. We had to have Senate hearings last year after the London Whale episode, which by itself ought to have infuriated conservatives everywhere. After all, why should the government have to get involved if Jamie Dimon feels like losing $6 billion at the blackjack table? Why is that our business?

        Well, we had to have those hearings because the offending gambler, JPM, was and is a company whose bank deposits were federally insured. All Chase has to do is untether its consumer bank from its lunatic hedge fund, as both Warren and genuine conservatives like David Vitter want, and the state wouldn't have to so much as blink when these rich dweebs rack up big gambling losses.

        Meanwhile, on the other side, we have "liberals" in the White House and in the lame-duck Senate leadership who are nakedly whoring for big business in this affair, unashamedly doing favors for banks like Citigroup and JPMorgan Chase that in recent years have racked up tens of billions of dollars in penalties for a smorgasbord of corrupt practices. Establishment Democrats like Harry Reid almost certain to cave and wave through the Citigroup provision, foregoing a filibuster-type standoff.

        Why? As Warren has cannily pointed out, veterans of Citigroup have dominated the Democratic Party establishment for quite a long time now, through figures like current Treasury Secretary Jack Lew and former Clinton Treasury Secretary Bob Rubin.

        Conservatives for welfare, and liberals for big business. It doesn't make sense unless we're not really dealing with any divided collection of conservatives or liberals, and are instead talking about one nebulous mass of influence, money and interests. I think of it as a single furiously-money-collecting/favor-churning oligarchical Beltway party, a thing that former Senate staffer and author Jeff Connaughton calls "The Blob."

        What's happening here is that The Blob, which includes supposed enemies like Reid and Graham, wants to give donation-factory banks like Citi and Chase a handout. But a coalition of heretics, including the liberal Warren, the genuinely conservative Vitter and (surprisingly to me) the usually party-orthodox Nancy Pelosi is saying no to the naked giveaway.

        Is killing the Citigroup provision really worth the trouble? Is it a "Hill to die on"? Maybe not in itself. But the key here is that a victory on the swaps issue will provide the Beltway hacks with a playbook for killing the rest of the few meaningful things in Dodd-Frank, probably beginning with the similar Volcker Rule, designed to prevent other types of gambling by federally-insured banks. Once they cave on the swaps issue, it won't be long before the whole bill vanishes, and we can go all the way back to our pre-2008 regulatory Nirvana.

        If the Democrats actually stood for anything other than sounding as progressive as possible without offending their financial backers, then they would do what Republicans always do in these situations: force a shutdown to save their legislation. How many times did Republicans hold the budget hostage to rescue the Bush tax cuts?

        But the Democrats won't do that here, because they're not a real party. They're a marketing phenomenon, a big chunk of oligarchical Blob cleverly sold to voters as the more reasonable and less nakedly corrupt wing of a two-headed political establishment.

        So they'll punt on this issue in the name of "maturity" or "bipartisanship," Wall Street will get a nice win, and Hillary Clinton or whoever else is being set up as the Blob candidate on the Democratic side will receive an avalanche of Financial Services donations to stave off Warren (who will begin appearing in the press as an unhinged combination of Lev Trotsky and Spartacus). A neat little piece of business all around. I don't know whether to applaud or throw up. ...
        I joined iTulip in March of 2008. I said back then that voting for either group of these self-serving whored-out dirt bags was a complete and total waste of time. (I actually held out a little hope for the Repukelicans, but men like Lindsay Graham and John McCain wiped that out.)

        During the 2008 Election I was chided as "naïve and foolish" for voting Third Party by some "enlightened" liberals from the Left Coast who saw "hope and change" from our god-sent "post racial" progressive "messiah".

        I was NOT wrong - and they were the ones who proved to be "naïve and foolish.

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          Originally posted by Woodsman View Post
          ...In 3, 2, 1:
          Originally posted by george WILL, when nobody else
          Hence Democrats, the principal creators of this complexity, receive more than 70 percent of lawyers’ political contributions. Yet progressives, refusing to see this defect — big government captured by big interests — as systemic, want to make government an ever more muscular engine of regulation and redistribution. Were progressives serious about what used to preoccupy America’s left — entrenched elites, crony capitalism and other impediments to upward mobility — they would study “The New Class Conflict,” by Joel Kotkin, a lifelong Democrat.


          The American majority that believes life will be worsefor the next few decades — ....This... reflects
          the “growing alliance between the ultra-wealthy and the instruments of state power.” In 2012, Barack Obama carried eight of America’s 10 wealthiest counties.
          dunno woody - seems to me ole george and matt are perty much on the same page on this - doncha tink?

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            Originally posted by Raz View Post
            I joined iTulip in March of 2008. I said back then that voting for either group of these self-serving whored-out dirt bags was a complete and total waste of time. (I actually held out a little hope for the Repukelicans, but men like Lindsay Graham and John McCain wiped that out.)

            During the 2008 Election I was chided as "naïve and foolish" for voting Third Party by some "enlightened" liberals from the Left Coast who saw "hope and change" from our god-sent "post racial" progressive "messiah".

            I was NOT wrong - and they were the ones who proved to be "naïve and foolish.
            +1

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              IMHO - matts latest only confirms the reasons (my suspicions) for and why he made the right decision to bow out of the intercept, since it would appear to also confirm (my suspicions) that the back story on that was to re-direct(muzzle) his efforts?

              GO MATT (jim dandy) - GO! GO! GO! (jim dandy) GOOOOOOOOO!!!!
              (like dog on bone baybee...)

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                Originally posted by Raz View Post
                I joined iTulip in March of 2008. I said back then that voting for either group of these self-serving whored-out dirt bags was a complete and total waste of time. (I actually held out a little hope for the Repukelicans, but men like Lindsay Graham and John McCain wiped that out.)

                During the 2008 Election I was chided as "naïve and foolish" for voting Third Party by some "enlightened" liberals from the Left Coast who saw "hope and change" from our god-sent "post racial" progressive "messiah".

                I was NOT wrong - and they were the ones who proved to be "naïve and foolish.
                Agreed.

                The political system is literally insane, as scripted as Reality TV and Pro Wrestling. The definition of insanity is expecting different results from the same behavior, in this case voting.

                This year I took George Carlin's advice and finally stopped voting. It only took two weeks from the last election to feel good about my decision. I didn't play the role of enabler to this broken, addictive system. After 38 year of naively believing that government will work honestly and well if I only pull the right lever, sanity feels refreshing.

                Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                  Originally posted by Raz View Post

                  I was NOT wrong - and they were the ones who proved to be "naïve and foolish.
                  When you're right, you're right. I was wrong, and among those who proved to be naïve and foolish. It took me until 2010 to be sure of it.

                  Here we are 4 years later, and 40% of Dodd-Frank is still not implemented. The largest portions of the bill that are unimplemented relate to mortgages, derivatives, and systemic risk. Now some of the rules with the most bite are being formally stripped away.

                  We're 6 years in to this administration. It's almost 2015. It should be clear by now that they have no intention on actually regulating the financial industry.

                  There will be another financial crisis. At this point it's certain. It's not a matter of if. Only when.

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                    Elizabeth Warren a populist She a total hypocrite!
                    She took salary form teaching, from corporate consulting, and six figures from a federal appointment in 2010-2011. A Triple Dipper!

                    http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/201...ngJ/story.html


                    She evidently practiced law in Massachusetts without a license:

                    http://www.inquisitr.com/349501/eliz...-corporations/


                    Ms. "you didn't build that" collected large consulting fees from corporations:

                    http://elizabethwarrenwiki.org/legal...-corporations/


                    Now she wants to help students with high outstanding loans:

                    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-debt-20140820


                    Why is student debt so high? Because Elizabeth Warren and her academic, corporate consulting elite are milking the poor kids for huge tuition increases:

                    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...-tuition-grown


                    The progressives want this charlatan as their new messiah

                    As Raz and I have said, both political parties are special interest whores. A pox on both your houses. Fire them all and FIRE too!

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                      Why? As Warren has cannily pointed out, veterans of Citigroup have dominated the Democratic Party establishment for quite a long time now, through figures like current Treasury Secretary Jack Lew and former Clinton Treasury Secretary Bob Rubin.
                      But does this qualify Warren for president?

                      So they'll punt on this issue in the name of "maturity" or "bipartisanship," Wall Street will get a nice win, and Hillary Clinton or whoever else is being set up as the Blob candidate on the Democratic side will receive an avalanche of Financial Services donations to stave off Warren (who will begin appearing in the press as an unhinged combination of Lev Trotsky and Spartacus). A neat little piece of business all around. I don't know whether to applaud or throw up.
                      Which is why campaign finance reform can not work in the current climate. All mass media is owned by corporate conglomerates. You cut campaign finance expenditures and you just give the mass media a virtual monopoly on choosing candidates. Just look at GW Bush - how on earth did that guy get even nominated let alone elected? The GOP had several decent candidates that the press just crushed.

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                        Warren's bills range from pie-in-the-sky progressive – she called for college loans to be issued at the same, nearly free, interest rates that Wall Street banks receive from the Fed – to soberly bipartisan. Her proposal to refinance outstanding student-loan debt at less than four percent interest (financed by a new minimum tax on America's top earners) nearly cleared the Senate in June, and will return to the Senate floor for a new vote this fall. "This country invests in tax loopholes for billionaires," she says. "And forces college students to pay for them through higher interest rates on their loans. That makes no sense at all."
                        The fix for too much debt is lower interest rates and taxes on someone else? She's too buried in the current system to see it's faults.

                        Tax reform is fine. I'd be ok with getting rid of the "loopholes" The thing is the tax code is NEVER reformed. There have been plenty of honest proposals to reform the tax code. None of them have had even a bit of support from either party.

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                          Originally posted by lektrode View Post
                          dunno woody - seems to me ole George and matt are pretty much on the same page on this - doncha tink?
                          Thanks for asking, Lek.
                          Will's primary charm is that he evidences a capacity for shame unseen in most GOP pundits and does not at first glance appear as barking mad as his contemporaries. This has enabled him to cultivate an "independent conservative" persona which he's used to great effect writing pro-GOP op-ed pieces as the token conservative on the nation's editorial pages. Will's intellectual journey has taken him from center right to center far right.

                          A look back at George's career tells me all I need to know about his independence as a journalist. Surprise! There isn't any. From his first paying political gig George has saddled up with the GOP. When George wasn't scribbling at Princeton or Oxford he was a paid GOP staffer and then later moved to Buckley's National Review staff.

                          Remember Debategate? George is so deep inside the GOP colon that he helped Reagan prepare for the debate with Carter. Big deal, you say? George made no secret of his "affection" for the governor. Sure, but he was less forthcoming about his use of stolen Carter debate notes to show his affection. Once George was discovered he decided his participation in Reagan's debate preparation was "inappropriate" after all, but denied any role in stealing the briefing book. That's ancient history and I cut him slack for being a team player.

                          Only George's integrity and effectiveness as a journalist comes into question again. But instead of simply playing for the team, George also plays for pay by moonlighting as a PR rep for gazillionaire fraudster and embezzler Conrad Black. George wrote puff pieces praising Black's good works while receiving $25k annual payments from said convicted fraudster, all the while failing to disclose his relationship. For me, that puts the shine off of George's independence.

                          Matt Taibbi is a second-generation journalist and follows in the footsteps of his father Mike, an Emmy award winning reporter. Matt is quite young and has many years of work ahead of him so it's hard to do an apples to apples with George. One big difference right off the bat is that Matt does original investigative reporting. George's brand of journalism comprises 300 word opinion pieces on the original reporting done by people like Taibbi.

                          Another key difference for me is that Taibbi does not seem interested in becoming an insider. Unlike George. As brief as his career has been none of it to date seems to demonstrate allegiance or beholding to a political party or movement. Unlike George. And his experience tweaking the nose of the Putins of the world tells me he has guts. Whereas George comes off as something of a limp-wristed, scented handkerchief sort of guy. A working class stiff like me appreciates how Taibbi uses bad words to describe bad things, and plain ones too. So unlike George.

                          Matt strikes me as an old time journalist, wary of getting too close with the folks he covers and dedicated to afflicting the comfortable and comforting the afflicted. George, he looks pretty comfortable. Don't you think?

                          So no, they're not on the same page. Not the same book. Not even the same language.
                          Last edited by Woodsman; December 15, 2014, 10:27 PM.

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                            Originally posted by Woodsman View Post
                            Thanks for asking, Lek....
                            ...
                            So no, they're not on the same page. Not the same book. Not even the same language.
                            always appreciate your back story on this stuff woody - will have a few obs/questions later - but have to head out for a therapy session

                            ;)

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                              If Matt can go after both sides of the radical spectrum, as well as the establishment sides that have sold out to the highest bidder, then I'd call him objective.

                              What I'm starting to see in Rolling Stone is a couple of puff pieces on Elizabeth Warren that seem to want to attract the rabid fans on the left.

                              What the majority of thinking people want is for both corrupt sides to be fully exposed.​ Hopefully Matt can fulfill this.

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