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Re: The Web Is Dying; Apps Are Killing It
Speaking of apps, is this C1ue?
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/1...ies-below&_r=0
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Originally posted by Thailandnotes View Post
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As far as the original article, I asked my son who, as I know others here, has been deeply involved in information science since the late 80s. Here is his comment,
- The article is not accurate. Google has almost zero control who writes for Android. It's and open source OS and I don't have to get apps from Google. I regularly get them from Amazon and others are available. Apple, on the other hand is a Draconian dictator when it comes to apps. No self respecting Republican should ever buy an Apple product! Also, there are zillions of free appa, far more than for the desktop.
BTW the Republican comment was meant personally for me, we have been debating a lot lately!
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- The article is not accurate. Google has almost zero control who writes for Android. It's and open source OS and I don't have to get apps from Google. I regularly get them from Amazon and others are available. Apple, on the other hand is a Draconian dictator when it comes to apps. No self respecting Republican should ever buy an Apple product! Also, there are zillions of free appa, far more than for the desktop.
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Originally posted by jiimbergin View PostAs far as the original article, I asked my son who, as I know others here, has been deeply involved in information science since the late 80s. Here is his comment,....
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..No self respecting Republican should ever buy an Apple product! Also, there are zillions of free appa, far more than for the desktop.
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BTW the Republican comment was meant personally for me, we have been debating a lot lately!
whos winnin?
:-)
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I've tend to view mobile as being for shallow engagements (check sports scores, play a game, quick IM a friend, etc.) and for repetition of known tasks (using GrubHub repeatedly to order food or such) and desktop more for deeper engagements. It would be hard for me to imagine a person reading one of EJ's features on a cell phone.
Though even if that sort of divide turns out to be correct, it can still have a major impact on the economics of publishing, as many companies which do in depth features subsidize them with high margin shorter content.
As a person who works on the web & can do so from home with dual monitors, I see mobile devices as being far less efficient than the desktop & sort of like being offline when I am away from the computer. But that point of view might not be the least bit relevant for many people sitting on a half hour bus ride to and from work each day who own a phablet.
Google has almost zero control who writes for Android. It's and open source OS and I don't have to get apps from Google. I regularly get them from Amazon and others are available. Apple, on the other hand is a Draconian dictator when it comes to apps.
- Android has the open source part of the code & the proprietary parts of the code. Over time more and more features have been pushed into the closed proprietary parts. Open was a marketing angle to buy adoption, which they've moved away from over time as they've built a more dominant marketshare.
- Google has control over the dozen(s) of apps they require Android manufactures to set as defaults. These default placements make it hard to break into some categories. And some of Google's apps (like Google Now) float across multiple verticals & can add popular features from third party apps right into Now.
- Google invests into other companies in their ecosystem & has publicly stated they use their internal data to help drive their investments, figure out what to acquire & figure out what to build next.
- Google has repeatedly blocked apps from their app stores (like AdBlock Plus & Disconnect Mobile) if those apps adversely impacted Google's business.
- Google requires their Chrome apps be installed from the official store site, prevents indirect monetization through offering a free plugin bundled with another plugin which paid to be installed, and yet they themselves use Flash security updates in other browsers to bundle Chrome browser installs.
- Even the Amazon app store comparison has bits worth referencing ... Google requires manufactures who make Android phones not make other lines that are not officially licensed. Part of being officially licensed means you put Google search as the default search, Google Play as the default app store, etc. In China where Google is largely blocked off there is vibrant competition in third party app stores for Android, but outside of those I think Amazon is about the only Android app store with any scale at all.
I am not claiming Apple as something other than Draconian dictator, rather I am suggesting where Google appears otherwise it is either because they are painting the perception for marketing purposes (saw a TV commercial tonight about Android where it said "and YOU" and something like "be together. not the same." ... yet all those forced bundling / tying features make so much of the experience "the same" across devices, expressly for Google consumer tracking and monetization purposes) or because they were losing and are playing catch up.
Before the American financial crisis of 2008 Google was highly aligned with openness, but they've become DRASTICALLY more closed off since then.
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Originally posted by seobook View PostBut that point of view might not be the least bit relevant for many people sitting on a half hour bus ride to and from work each day who own a phablet.
What use could they possibly have for a Desktop?
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Originally posted by seobook View PostBefore the American financial crisis of 2008 Google was highly aligned with openness, but they've become DRASTICALLY more closed off since then.
Did the NSA make Google an offer it couldn't refuse? Or was collecting data on every person then sharing that data with the government Google's plan from way back?
Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.
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In a world awash in money it is very easy to fund an idea that is no long term viable and perhaps the Valet companies will be scooped up for $millions before the next crash.
Sadly, tech has morphed in to pseudo technology where a web front end for a basic service is considered a break through.
My favorite is Washio for all your laundry needs and how about https://www.happier.com/home for keeping an upbeat perspective.
Perhaps the only thing worse than being a Doomer is being a Happier who thinks any of these pseudo technology companies makes sense.
But, for the moment Washio, Park.IT, Luxe make as much sense as an Electric Car startup gone public valued for $29 Billion with a CEO who openly talks of colonizing or landing on Mars with his reusable rockets.
There was a time when technology was about an inventor who spent 5, 10, 15 years working in his basement or large wak in closet solving a incredibly difficult technical problem.
Today tech has become more an more using the Internet to exploit the excess labor that populates the world.
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