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  • Is the Ebola threat really as benign as the MSM has portrayed? (Warning: Graphic)

    I'm just wondering how the Ebola threat can be "solved" as it rages and mutates in West African countries.

    Warning: Very graphic, photos even more scary than Z Nation series. View at your own risk!

    http://www.nairaland.com/1848781/sca...-virus-victims
    Last edited by touchring; October 23, 2014, 11:50 PM.

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    Re: Is the Ebola threat really as benign as the MSM has portrayed? (Warning: Graphic)

    I have not viewed it as I have seen enough of these type of photos thanks. However, I know people in the pharmaceutical and medical world and they currently say that there are a lot of excellent anti viral drugs developed. Couple this with western medical care and it should be ok. The problem could be if the virus mutates and how it does this. Time will tell.

    I came across this which is also quite interesting:-

    http://time.com/health/
    Last edited by DRumsfeld2000; October 24, 2014, 12:23 AM.

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      Re: Is the Ebola threat really as benign as the MSM has portrayed? (Warning: Graphic)

      Ebola, a disease for our time . . . .

      Craig Spencer was halfway through the recommended 21-day self-monitoring period for those at risk from the Ebola virus when he went bowling in Brooklyn.

      The 33-year-old physician had been working with Doctors Without Borders on the Ebola outbreak in Guinea, one of the three west African countries worst affected by the virus. He finished his work there on 12 October and left the country on 14 October, flying home to John F Kennedy airport in New York via Europe. He arrived in New York on 17 October.

      In the days since returning to his apartment in Harlem, he was careful to check his temperature twice a day as part of his monitoring process.

      But at some point between returning home from Guinea and experiencing symptoms, officials said, Spencer took a three-mile jog, despite being on a self-imposed limited-contact regime.

      Certainly, it seems likely that he thought he was in the clear by Wednesday evening, when he decided to go with friends to Gutter, a bowling alley in Williamsburg.

      He did, authorities confirmed at a press conference on Thursday, bowl.

      During the day on Wednesday, he may have walked on the High Line – a popular tourist attraction on the west side of Manhattan built on a former elevated railway – and may have also eaten at a restaurant near there, according to officials.

      It is known for sure that he travelled on three subway lines – the 1-train, the A-train and the L-train – as well as an Uber taxi. Epidemiologists were using information gathered from Spencer’s New York Metrocard – which records the entry points to subway journeys – and his credit cards, to determine his movements around the city.

      Uber confirmed that Spencer had been given a ride Wednesday evening, and told the Guardian that it had contacted the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the New York department of health, who had told it that neither the driver nor any of his subsequent passengers were at risk.

      Spencer had no fever when he left his apartment on Wednesday, and continued to check his temperature. He told health authorities that began to experience fatigue on Wednesday night, but was otherwise feeling well.

      A high fever on Thursday morning was the first time Spencer displayed symptoms which indicated Ebola, authorities said, and emphasised that it was unlikely he would have been infectious before that time. Humans are not infectious until they develop symptoms.

      It was between 10am and 11am on Thursday, when he developed both a fever and gastro-enterital symptoms, that he contacted Doctors Without Borders, who in turn contacted the New York health authorities.

      An emergency medical crew arrived in full protective gear and took him to Bellevue in an ambulance surrounded by police squad cars.

      This triggered a series of responses that had been exhaustively rehearsed over the weeks that had passed since America’s first Ebola patient, Thomas Duncan, was diagnosed with the virus at a hospital in Dallas.

      Spencer was brought to New York’s Bellevue Hospital, one of five hospitals in the state which have been designated to handle patients with the disease, by a team of specially-trained paramedics in full hazmat suits.

      A “meticulous” individual, he was careful to make sure his apartment was locked behind him.

      Spencer is currently in an isolation ward unit at Bellevue hospital that was built during the Aids epidemic in the 1990s, when it was designed to deal with immuno-compromised patients suffering from tuberculosis.

      Ebola Vaccine, Ready for Test, Sat on the Shelf

      By DENISE GRADYGALVESTON, Tex. — Almost a decade ago, scientists from Canada and the United States reported that they had created a vaccine that was 100 percent effective in protecting monkeys against the Ebola virus. The results were published in a respected journal, and health officials called them exciting. The researchers said tests in people might start within two years, and a product could potentially be ready for licensing by 2010 or 2011.

      It never happened. The vaccine sat on a shelf. Only now is it undergoing the most basic safety tests in humans — with nearly 5,000 people dead from Ebola and an epidemic raging out of control in West Africa.

      Its development stalled in part because Ebola is rare, and until now, outbreaks had infected only a few hundred people at a time. But experts also acknowledge that the absence of follow-up on such a promising candidate reflects a broader failure to produce medicines and vaccines for diseases that afflict poor countries. Most drug companies have resisted spending the sums needed to develop products useful mostly to countries with little ability to pay.

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        Re: Is the Ebola threat really as benign as the MSM has portrayed? (Warning: Graphic)

        the WHO contests 'let the market decide' . . .

        “A profit-driven industry does not invest in products for markets that cannot pay. W.H.O. has been trying to make this issue visible for ages. Now people can see for themselves.”


        The leader of the World Health Organization criticized the drug industry on Monday, saying that the drive for profit was one reason no vaccine had yet been found for Ebola.

        In a speech at a regional conference in Cotonou, Benin, Dr. Margaret Chan, the director general of the W.H.O., also denounced the glaring absence of effective public health systems in the worst-affected countries.

        At least 13,567 people are known to have contracted the Ebola virus in the latest outbreak, and 4,951 have died, according to the latest data on the W.H.O. website, which was updated on Friday. All but a few of the cases have been in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone.

        Dr. Chan said her organization had long warned of the consequences of greed in drug development and of neglect in public health.

        In the midst of the Ebola crisis, she said, these “two W.H.O. arguments that have fallen on deaf ears for decades are now out there with consequences that all the world can see, every day, on prime-time TV news.”

        The Ebola virus was discovered in the Democratic Republic of Congo, then known as Zaire, in 1976. But because it was confined to impoverished African countries, Dr. Chan said, there was no incentive to develop a vaccine until this year, when Ebola became a broader threat.


        Dr. Chan reiterated her contention that the Ebola crisis “is the most severe acute public health emergency seen in modern times.”

        Efforts to find a vaccine have been stepped up in recent months as the disease has spread, with a small outbreak in Nigeria and isolated cases in Mali, Senegal, Spain and the United States.


        Officials at the W.H.O. and at other public health authorities reported on Oct. 24 that they hoped to begin trials of vaccines as early as December, and that it should be known by April whether they are effective.

        Researchers have been testing two experimental vaccines in healthy volunteers in the United States and in other countries outside the main outbreak region in West Africa. One of them was developed by the National Institutes of Health and GlaxoSmithKline, and the other by the Canadian government and NewLink Genetics.

        Testing on humans of at least five other vaccines could begin in early 2015, W.H.O. officials have said.

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          Re: Is the Ebola threat really as benign as the MSM has portrayed? (Warning: Graphic)

          Originally posted by touchring View Post
          I'm just wondering how the Ebola threat can be "solved" as it rages and mutates in West African countries.

          Warning: Very graphic, photos even more scary than Z Nation series. View at your own risk!

          http://www.nairaland.com/1848781/sca...-virus-victims
          Has anyone caught Ebola in a western country yet as opposed to catching it in West Africa and returning home?

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            Re: Is the Ebola threat really as benign as the MSM has portrayed? (Warning: Graphic)

            Originally posted by sutro View Post
            Has anyone caught Ebola in a western country yet as opposed to catching it in West Africa and returning home?

            I believe that a couple of healthcare workers have caught the disease in western countries.

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              Re: Is the Ebola threat really as benign as the MSM has portrayed? (Warning: Graphic)

              Yeah.

              US
              http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...e-catch-ebola/

              Spain
              http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0I21G020141013

              Seems like a hard disease to contract.

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                Re: Is the Ebola threat really as benign as the MSM has portrayed? (Warning: Graphic)

                Originally posted by touchring View Post
                I believe that a couple of healthcare workers have caught the disease in western countries.
                The nurses from Texas, but have they infected anyone else?

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                  Re: Is the Ebola threat really as benign as the MSM has portrayed? (Warning: Graphic)

                  I have not heard of other contacts of Thomas Duncan becoming Ill. However, I am still curious about the Texas nurses and the New York Doctor, Craig Spencer. They said a protocol was not followed in Texas what was that?? Theoretically, they were health care workers and have some protection and training about catching diseases in general, yet they became ill. How? Do they know the vector? I assume all of these people followed simple precautions. If they got sick could others coming in casual contact with Ebola carriers become ill too? Craig Spencer is Improving under the best care money can buy. Can thousands of people get that same treatment?

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                    Re: Is the Ebola threat really as benign as the MSM has portrayed? (Warning: Graphic)

                    Originally posted by charliebrown View Post
                    I have not heard of other contacts of Thomas Duncan becoming Ill. However, I am still curious about the Texas nurses and the New York Doctor, Craig Spencer. They said a protocol was not followed in Texas what was that?? Theoretically, they were health care workers and have some protection and training about catching diseases in general, yet they became ill. How? Do they know the vector? I assume all of these people followed simple precautions. If they got sick could others coming in casual contact with Ebola carriers become ill too? Craig Spencer is Improving under the best care money can buy. Can thousands of people get that same treatment?

                    I read that those that got cured had blood transfusion from an Ebola survivor sharing the same blood type.

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                      Re: Is the Ebola threat really as benign as the MSM has portrayed? (Warning: Graphic)

                      Originally posted by charliebrown View Post
                      ... If they got sick could others coming in casual contact with Ebola carriers become ill too? Craig Spencer is Improving under the best care money can buy. Can thousands of people get that same treatment?
                      Sure, why not? Yellen can just print the "money" to buy more guv'ment debt.

                      The cost would be astronomical. Please read the attached research document.
                      Attached Files

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                        Re: Is the Ebola threat really as benign as the MSM has portrayed? (Warning: Graphic)

                        Originally posted by Raz View Post
                        Sure, why not? Yellen can just print the "money" to buy more guv'ment debt.

                        The cost would be astronomical. Please read the attached research document.
                        Interesting. Thanks, Raz!

                        Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                          Re: Is the Ebola threat really as benign as the MSM has portrayed? (Warning: Graphic)

                          Originally posted by charliebrown View Post
                          I have not heard of other contacts of Thomas Duncan becoming Ill. However, I am still curious about the Texas nurses and the New York Doctor, Craig Spencer...
                          All (most?) of your questions answered here:

                          MMWR

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                            Re: Is the Ebola threat really as benign as the MSM has portrayed? (Warning: Graphic)

                            Originally posted by Raz View Post
                            Sure, why not? Yellen can just print the "money" to buy more guv'ment debt.

                            The cost would be astronomical. Please read the attached research document.

                            If printing money alone can buy the best healthcare, wouldn't America's healthcare system be the best in the developed world?

                            Having experienced the SARS period 11 years ago, it takes more than just money to contain a deadly virus outbreak.

                            Until today, I remembered watching the new footage of patients in China jumping out of hospital buildings, more than a couple to their deaths. Entire hospitals were quarantined with soldiers toting automatic weapons sealing up the entrances. If you got a fever, you risk being sent to one of those hospitals.

                            Those were the time before smartphones existed.

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                              Re: Is the Ebola threat really as benign as the MSM has portrayed? (Warning: Graphic)

                              Originally posted by touchring View Post
                              If printing money alone can buy the best healthcare, wouldn't America's healthcare system be the best in the developed world?
                              Well of course. But the question was "Can thousands of people get that same treatment?"

                              I don't believe our country can supply that level of care to the citizenry at an affordable cost, especially if we just open our borders to enough Ebola patients. And I believe we have the best facilities, physicians and medical research on this planet. It's the cost structure and availability that's the problem.


                              Originally posted by touchring View Post
                              Having experienced the SARS period 11 years ago, it takes more than just money to contain a deadly virus outbreak.
                              It takes a lot more than money, including common sense and political will. There's a drastic shortage of those two at present.

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