Putin's Pointless Move On Ukraine Leaves It A Vassal To China

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...russian-threat

[FrankL]

Re: Putin's Pointless Move On Ukraine Leaves It A Vassal To China

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...russian-threat

so in order to guard against the recent Russian assertiveness NATO needs to increase its presence in eastern Europe; Russia's assertiveness seems to mainly be reactionary, as their former influence sphere is crumbling with the western world under the lead of the US is expanding into neighbouring states...

Sounds like a catch22, doesn't it? How much of the cold war's military budget expansion (on either side) was based on the same mechanisms? Some people in the private defence sector is going to get rich off all of this...

[Shakespear]

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Some people in the private defence sector is going to get rich off all of this...

Plenty $ to go after.

[don]

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On September 10, 2001, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld held a press conference to disclose that over $2,000,000,000,000 in Pentagon funds could not be accounted for.

No problemo, now go back to sleep . . . .

[don]

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talk about doubling down . . .

As AP reports, it appears Syrian airstrikes are on their way, but there's a mind-blowing twist in US foreign policy: "In an effort to avoid unintentionally strengthening the Syrian government, the White House could seek to balance strikes against the Islamic State with attacks on Assad regime targets."

[don]

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David Stockton Weighs In . . .


America’s spanker-in-chief is at it again—threatening to bomb Syria owing to the uncivilized actions of its inhabitants. And when it comes to Syria, Washington avers that there are punishable malefactors virtually everywhere within its borders.

Exactly one year ago Obama proposed to take Bashir Assad to the woodshed because he had allegedly unleashed a vicious chemical attack on his own citizens. That was all pretext, of course, because even the CIA refused to sign-off on the flimsy case for Assad’s culpability at the time—-a reluctance corroborated since then by the considerable evidence that hundreds of Syrian civilians were murdered during a false flag operation staged by the rebels with help from Turkey. The aim of the rebels, of course, was to activate American tomahawk missiles and bombers in behalf of “regime change”, which was also the stated goal of the Obama Administration.

Now the White House is threatening to bomb Syria again, but this time its regime change objective has been expanded to include both sides! In 12 short months what had been the allegedly heroic Sunni opposition to the “brutal rule” of the Assad/Alawite minority has transmuted into the “greatest terrorist threat ever”, according to the Secretary of Defense. So Obama has already unleashed the drones and surveillance apparatus to identify targets of attack that will help bring down a regime in northern and eastern Syria—the Islamic State—which did not even exist a year ago.

Adding to the farce is the warning of Syria’s Foreign Affairs minister that Obama should please to request permission before he rains destruction from the sky on the Opposition—-that is, the opposition to the regime which the White House has vowed to change. Needless to say, the Washington apparatus is having nothing to do with aiding the enemy of its new enemy:

White House spokesman Josh Earnest on Monday tried to tamp down the notion that action against the Islamic State group could bolster Assad, saying, “We’re not interested in trying to help the Assad regime.” However, he acknowledged that “there are a lot of cross pressures

In fact, there is apparently an option emerging from the bowels of the war machine that calls for an odd/even day plan to bomb both sides, thereby making clear that Washington is an equal opportunity spanker. Apparently, whether you use a 12th century sword or 20th century attack helicopter as a means of rule, you will be bombed by the “indispensable nation”, as Obama put it, adding that “no other nation can do what we do”.

Well, that involves some “doing”. According to AP, it appears that Syrian airstrikes are imminent, but could be carried out under the odd/even day plan:

“In an effort to avoid unintentionally strengthening the Syrian government, the White House could seek to balance strikes against the Islamic State with attacks on Assad regime targets.”

Is any more evidence needed that Washington has gone stark raving mad than even the possibility that such an absurd option could be under consideration? There will be no permission from the Syrian government, neighboring countries, the Arab League, the US Congress, the United Nations nor any one else. Has not the imperial city on the Potomac become so inured to its pretensions of global hegemony and to instant resort to deployment of its war machine that any semblance of rationality and coherence has been dissolved?

The American Imperium has failed and the prospect of bombing both sides of an irrelevant non-country’s ancient tribal wars ought, at last, to make that much clear.

[gwynedd1]

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talk about doubling down . . .

As AP reports, it appears Syrian airstrikes are on their way, but there's a mind-blowing twist in US foreign policy: "In an effort to avoid unintentionally strengthening the Syrian government, the White House could seek to balance strikes against the Islamic State with attacks on Assad regime targets."

This was my first draft of Syrian diplomacy pseudo code :


if [ chemical weapons ]
then
bomb Syria
elsif [ radical rebels appear ]
then
bomb Syria
elsif [ Syria allied to Russia ]
then
bomb Syria
elsif [ Syia allied to Iran ]
then
bomb Syria
elsif [ Syria not friendly to politically active minority fringe and homosexual groups ]
bomb Syria
elsif [ Syria "communist" ]
then
bomb Syria
else #default
bomb syria && seek reason before exit();


This is the optimized version using a do while loop:

if [ Syria ]
do
bomb while [ Syria ]
excuse_generator()
exit

[don]

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They may be using the odd/even parking approach. Since most months have 31 days, the odd party gets a bonus bombing.

And what exactly is the status of the Russian port (Tartus) in Syria - odd or even?

[vinoveri]

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and don't forget the cue to the discredited economic profession, e.g., Krugman, "this alternative bombing campaign will more rapidly contribute to economic growth and likely to spike GDP to 5% through 2015, after all making and deploying weapons and cleaning up the aftermath takes a lot of resources and creates a lot of jobs."
Genius: bomb them to the stone age and then bring in the IMF to lend the money to the new puppet state to employ Haliburton et al to rebuild we americans can ride our defense contractor stocks to the moon .... what a great country

[don]

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not your MSM update (from Mike Shedlock)

Jane's Defense vs. Colonel Cassad Take II

In response to Jane's Defense vs. Colonel Cassad: Someone Seriously Wrong, a close friend wrote ...

Jane’s has been in business giving good advice for a century and could only do so by giving good advice. Everything I have read suggests that the rebels (who include a lot of Russian paramilitary) would have been about finished this past week, but for supplies coming in through Russian interference. The captured Russian soldiers two days ago day only make the interference look more like direct assault. Colonel Cassad, on the other hand, appears to be a complete whack job who idolizes Joseph Stalin and thinks Putin is to weak.

My Response

The political views of Colonel Cassad, whether you like him or despise him are irrelevant. His military analysis, denied by Kiev for the past two weeks, took precisely one more day to prove correct.

March to the Sea

For several days, I have been commenting on a rebel "march to the sea", and the meaning of that march. On Wednesday, mainstream news verified the accuracy of my reports.

For no other reason than Ukraine could no longer hide the truth, Ukraine finally admitted what it could have and should have admitted a week ago: Rebels extend fight against Kiev to Ukraine’s south coast

Pro-Russian rebels entered a new town in southeast Ukraine on Wednesday while Kiev accused Russia of sending more troops into its territory, dispelling hopes of political progress after talks between the two countries’ presidents.

Rebels entered Novoazovsk, a strategically important town on the Sea of Azov 10km from the Russian border, the town’s mayor announced. It is on the road linking Russia to Crimea, the peninsula Moscow annexed in March, and is some distance south of the existing rebel strongholds of Donetsk and Lugansk.

The fighting around Novoazovsk creates a de facto new front in the conflict, close to Mariupol. This coastal city has been used by Ukraine as a logistical base to support its campaign against the rebels further north in Donetsk and Lugansk.

It could also signal that Moscow is seeking to establish a direct land link under its control between Russia and the seized Crimean peninsula nearly 300km away.

“Our forces are currently engaged with Russian forces with tanks that are on the territory of Ukraine near . . . Novoazovsk,” said Oleksander Danylyuk, an adviser to Ukraine’s defence minister. “We are also increasingly facing genuine Russian soldiers in addition to mercenaries armed by Russia on the other fronts in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions.”

Genuine Russian Soldiers?

I am convinced this talk about direct military involvement by Russia is 90% hype if not more. A few soldiers captured and paraded about does not change that picture.

Is Russia looking the other way on military supplies? Of course. And if one understands Russia's fear of NATO, one should understand why.

Is it OK for the US to invade Iran, but Russia to not send supplies to Russian speaking neighbors right on its border?

Would the US allow missiles in Cuba? Should Russia allow them in Ukraine?

Hey, just asking.

Jane Caught With Pants Down

My contacts informed me of the counteroffensive before it started. How is it that I could know of this counteroffensive before military experts?

Simply put, Jane got caught with her pants down, parroting complete nonsense from Kiev.

Was that good advice? Good intelligence? For whom? By whom?

The excuse that the war would have been over without Russia is ridiculous. Shouldn't Jane have known of that support?

There are no excuses, Jane clearly got caught parroting the view of Kiev.

I found this sentence by Jane particularly humorous: "Ukrainian army and national guard units appear to be better trained and motivated than the units that first engaged the rebels in the early days of the crisis back in April."

And these paragraphs are quite ironic ...

What has surprised many observers is the reluctance of Russian president Vladimir Putin to intervene directly to prop up the self-proclaimed People's Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk. So far the Russian armed forces do not seem to have been sent to fight openly alongside the rebels, although NATO claims Moscow is regularly allowing resupply convoys to cross the border.

This might indicate the threat of Western economic sanctions is having some impact, but it is more likely Putin is concerned about public reaction to heavy casualties among conscript soldiers in regular army units.

Someone Seriously Wrong ... Again

Two days ago I questioned whether Jane was wrong or Colonel Cassad. We now have the answer.

Today, and in reference to Russian troops, I ask: "Is Jane's Defense right or Kiev?"

The Southern Front Catastrophe

Let's move on. I have a new map update and history suggests Jane better pay attention.

Please consider The Southern Front Catastrophe – August 27, 2014



Detail Mariupol



Detail Lugansk



Novorossiya Military Briefing – Novorossiya Shall Be!

Please consider Novorossiya Military Briefing – Novorossiya Shall Be! translated from Colonel Cassad Live Journal by Daniel Mikhailovich.

We are currently witnessing an epic and in its own way historic event. The Ukrainian regular army and the punitive battalions are suffering a catastrophic defeat to the south of Donetsk. Only a short time ago the Republics were in dire straits: the DPR was hanging only by a thin supply thread, which the Ukrainian army was attempting to sever near Shakhtersk and Krasnyi Luch; the summit of Saur-Mogila has been abandoned, and Bolotov’s counteroffensive had failed to bring decisive victories.

To many it seemed that the Militia forces were on the ropes and just about to break, which would have led to the collapse of Novorossiya and a military victory for the fascist Junta. ...

The Junta did not conceal its plans, and the preparations for the assaults on Shakhtersk and Lugansk were openly discussed. The bravura level of the Junta’s triumphant reports that came with each new breakthrough of its mechanized battle groups was off the charts.

It's a lengthy and worthwhile read. Here are some more snips towards the end.

This new frontline is a gaping hole for the Junta, which has nothing to plug it with. The remnants of its forces, including Battalion Azov, fled to Mariupol, in the process abandoning several settlements virtually without a shot. As a result, the Militia rolled directly into the suburbs of Novoazovsk and onto the approaches to Mariupol. On the Junta’s side, there is virtually no front from the area south of Starobeshevo and up to Novoazovsk. The Milita’s lack of sufficient troops is the only thing slowing down the looming catastrophe.

Overall, it still is not quite clear how the Junta intends to avoid a complete defeat here. It will clearly not be able to restore the previous frontline, and the only question is whether the surrounded troops will be able to break out (and as they will have to do so on their own, it is likely that they will have to make that decision as soon as possible), and where the Militia’s offensive will stop – they still have fairly limited forces and they are now routing a larger force with a smaller force.

In the meantime, the once-solid front, which stretched from Marinovka to Yelenovka has now broken up into separate pockets of resistance with intercepted supply lines. After this disaster it became absolutely clear that the Junta does not have the capacity to destroy Novorossiya. By squandering the most combat-capable brigades in systematic offensive operations, the Junta sustained enormous losses and at the same time suffered a crushing, purely military defeat. The southern front has collapsed. Novorossiya shall exist!

About the Counter-Offensive

Note: These snips came out ahead of the meeting between Putin and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko.

1. The situation has become precarious for the Junta in the area of Novoazovsk and Mariupol. The Militia forces that penetrated from the north, and also those that moved along the border with the Russian Federation, created an operational crisis in the area of Novoazovsk, which in itself implies a threat to Mariupol. The panic on the Junta-aligned websites is not without foundation. As we mentioned earlier, there are very few combat-capable units there – a hodgepodge of police, punitive troops, border guards and air defense personnel, clearly not the forces you can repel a serious Militia offensive with.

For now the Junta is saved by the fact that the Militia forces there are not so big and they are not achieving decisive results yet, although the threat has already become very serious.

[Mish: Let me interject here. Cassad does not offer a one-sided analysis. He was not a happy camper at the onset of the Kiev offensive, and he cautions repeatedly about over-euphoria. He notes that as of now, rebels have insufficient troops to take Mariupol, at least right now.]

Currently, the Junta faces a very unpleasant prospect – either it has to urgently find reserves for the new front that suddenly opened up, or else it risks losing Novoazovsk and may face a real threat of losing Mariupol. In general, this blow is very unpleasant for the Junta, and it is further complicated by the problems to the south of Donetsk.

2. The gap in the front to the south of Amvrosievka, which the Junta recklessly didn’t plug for a few days, led to a disaster as expected. Not only did the Militia use the gap to advance to Uspenka and Novoazovsk and to create a threat for Mariupol. Also, the Junta units that were drawn into the battle for Ilovaysk have spent their reserves, which resulted in a Militia advance onto those Junta battle groups’ communications and the threat of attacking Militia units taking Amvrosievka. An encirclement of a kind emerged, which is already the 3rd encirclement in the south. Although this one is more of a partial encirclement – the Militia intercepted a number of important roads to the south of the main forces of the Junta battle group, but there’s no talk yet about a complete encirclement across all paths, because the Militia are actually encircling a larger force with a smaller one. In the next few days the Junta will try to break out of this critical encirclement, but if they fail to do this, then the first two southern cauldrons will be chump change compared to this one.

3. The encirclement by Dyakovo is still not eliminated, the encircled forces were given standard terms – leave and be interned in Russia, handing over the vehicles and weapons – but their leadership refuses to accept those, for now. But overall, the elimination of that encirclement is just a matter of time and losses. Of course I would prefer for the Militia to get the vehicles.

The very nature of the events in the Donbass is changing and now the argument is starting to shift from “will Novorossiya survive?” to “what consequences will there be of the Junta’s defeat in Donbass?”; including the question of “what borders would be the starting point of negotiation?”. Perhaps the first diplomatic overtures will happen tomorrow in Minsk.

Ceasefire Proposal in Review

Wednesday's Ukraine announcement admitting rebel counteroffensive ties in quite nicely with questions I asked in Ukraine Seeks Ceasefire Following 'Very Tough and Complex" Talks With Putin.

What Changed?

• [*=left]Ukrainian resolve?
  [*=left]Ukraine is bankrupt and the IMF made it clear it won't fund wars?
  [*=left]Rebels are now winning?
  [*=left]Ukraine finally realizes war is a losing game?
  [*=left]Russian sanctions starting to bite harder than Ukraine admitted?

Advice for Jane

Pay less attention to Kiev proclamations and more attention to what Colonel Cassad says is happening.

By the way, it's safe to figure that whatever the losing side admits (in recent weeks, Kiev), the losses are way worse.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com

[vt]

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