Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Dont Cry for US, Argentina? markets send a mesg to Yellen

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Dont Cry for US, Argentina? markets send a mesg to Yellen

    31july - with the dow at 16660 or so.. looks like the summer fireworks season is just getting going

    Argentina's Markets Pull Back After Debt Default

    J.P. Morgan Could Buy Out Holdout Creditors; Argentina Mulls Legal Options

    Stocks and bonds in Argentina tumbled following the country's second default in 13 years, as doubts emerged about the prospects for a bank-engineered deal to resolve a standoff with hedge-fund creditors and government officials suggested they could take the fight to an international court.
    Aurelius Capital Management LP, one of Argentina's creditors, downplayed media reports that banks were preparing to purchase the so-called holdouts' bonds. Argentine media have reported that private-sector banks are attempting to arrange a deal to help Argentina pay off debt it owes the funds, who have sued for full payment on bonds the country defaulted on in 2001. J.P. Morgan Chase JPM -1.59% & Co. is in talks to buy bonds from a group of hedge funds demanding full payment from Argentina, a person familiar with the matter told The Wall Street Journal.
    "Aurelius has received no such proposal that we considered worthy of serious consideration," the hedge fund said in a statement.
    Argentina's benchmark Merval stock index was recently down 7.3%. Argentina's dollar-denominated bonds due in 2033, the ones whose interest payment was due Wednesday, fell to near 90 cents on the dollar, from a closing price of 96 cents late Wednesday, traders said. Bond yields rose to 9.7%, from 8.8%.
    Investors and analysts view a deal between banks and the holdout creditors as the best hope to pull Argentina out of default. A U.S. District Court has ruled that Argentina must pay the so-called holdout creditors when it pays holders of restructured bonds.
    On Wednesday, a 30-day grace period on an interest payment ran out and Standard & Poor's Ratings Services declared the country in default on some bonds.
    The International Swaps and Derivatives Association will on Friday rule on whether Argentina's failure to make certain bond payments will trigger a payout on insurance contracts linked to that debt.
    In Argentina, Cabinet Chief Jorge Capitanich said the country's situation raises questions about the "precariousness of the U.S. justice system," and said the government would take its battle to the International Court of Justice in The Hague. On Wednesday, government negotiators ended talks in New York with a U.S. court-appointed mediator and flew back to Buenos Aires.


    Argentina's dollar-denominated bonds due in 2033, the ones whose interest payment was due June 30, fell to near 90 cents on the dollar early Thursday, from a closing price of 96 cents late Wednesday, traders said. Bond yields rose to 9.7%, from 8.8%. Prices move in the opposite direction as yields. U.S.-traded shares of BBVA Banco Frances SA FRAN.BA -7.27% fell 10.5%, while shares of Grupo Financiero Galicia SA GGAL.BA -8.14% and Pampa Energia SA PAMP.BA -7.69% were both down 8.4%.
    Still, analysts said investors were reluctant to sell while there was prospect of a quick resolution.
    "The expectation of a bank deal is supporting bond prices," said Siobhan Morden, head of Latin America strategy at Jefferies LLC. "But it's difficult to trade these headlines when you're getting whiplashed" by sharp price moves in thin trading. "Most people have adopted their view, taken their positions, and waited to see what the final outcome will be," Ms. Morden said.
    Argentina's latest default can trace its roots back to the country's decision to repudiate about $100 billion in debt during a deep economic crisis in 2001. After years of confrontation with creditors, investors exchanged almost 93% of their defaulted bonds for new securities in heavily discounted restructurings in 2005 and 2010 that gave them just 33 cents on the dollar.
    But some investors refused to take the new bonds, with many suing in U.S. courts for full repayment. These included hedge funds led by Elliott Management Corp.'s NML Capital Ltd. and Aurelius Capital Management LP, which have won about $1.6 billion after years of litigation.
    In a statement early Thursday, NML said the mediator "proposed numerous creative solutions," but "Argentina refused to seriously consider any of them, and instead chose to default."
    U.S. courts had jurisdiction over these lawsuits because Argentina had agreed in some of its bond contracts to resolve any disputes under New York law.






    After Argentina denounced several U.S. court rulings awarding judgments to creditors and consistently refused to pay the holdouts, U.S. District Court Judge Thomas Griesa issued his unprecedented 2012 ruling that barred Argentina from paying its restructured bondholders unless it also pays the holdouts. That ruling was upheld by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals and the U.S. Supreme Court in June declined to hear Argentina's appeal.
    Judge Griesa will hold a hearing on Friday. A clerk for the judge said the hearing would discuss Argentina's default and "where the parties go from here."
    A prolonged default would pressure an economy already mired in recession, potentially leading to higher inflation and a weaker currency. The breakdown of negotiations complicates Argentine President Cristina Kirchner's efforts to stabilize the economy before she steps down in December 2015.
    Argentina deposited $539 million for the interest payment on restructured bonds with Bank of New York Mellon Corp. on June 26. On Thursday, BNY Mellon sent a letter to bondholders explaining why the interest payment was missed. "The nature and timing of any future court order regarding the funds are not yet known," the letter said.
    Mr. Capitanich, the Argentine cabinet chief, argued that the country isn't in default because it deposited the payments with the trustee on time. Investors should pressure the bond trustee to get their money, Mr. Capitanich said.
    "Many bondholders who participated in the restructurings don't have an aggressive judicial attitude as if the money wasn't important to them," he said. "What they ought to do is demand their payment."
    —Emily Glazer, Katy Burne and Ben Edwards contributed to this article.

  • #2
    Re: Dont Cry for US, Argentina? markets send a mesg to Yellen

    Do stock buy-backs with cheap debt have a limit? Are we close?

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: Dont Cry for US, Argentina? markets send a mesg to Yellen

      Here's my question: Why would anyone loan money - or anything else - to Argentina?

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: Dont Cry for US, Argentina? markets send a mesg to Yellen

        Originally posted by Raz View Post
        Here's my question: Why would anyone loan money - or anything else - to Argentina?
        Raz, you are not making any sense at all.
        You seem to be implying that large Wall Street players can be made to accept losing money when they make a bad investment.
        Investment losses are for the little people.

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: Dont Cry for US, Argentina? markets send a mesg to Yellen

          Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
          Raz, you are not making any sense at all.
          You seem to be implying that large Wall Street players can be made to accept losing money when they make a bad investment.
          Investment losses are for the little people.
          kinda like paying taxes...

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: Dont Cry for US, Argentina? markets send a mesg to Yellen

            Lek, I'm not surprised you got the reference to Leona Helmsley.
            But I'm pretty impressed you got her mug shot up so quickly.

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: Dont Cry for US, Argentina? markets send a mesg to Yellen

              Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
              .... pretty impressed you got her mug shot up so quickly.
              thanyou, thanyouvermush....

              but 'the queen of mean' is easy to find...

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: Dont Cry for US, Argentina? markets send a mesg to Yellen

                May I suggest:



                DEBT is the key . . . .

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: Dont Cry for US, Argentina? markets send a mesg to Yellen

                  Originally posted by Raz View Post
                  Here's my question: Why would anyone loan money - or anything else - to Argentina?
                  I bought Argentina bonds twice in the last 10 years. Resold them for some profit. Argentina economic fundamentals are better than many sovereigns out there commanding far smaller country risks. Last couple of years yields gaps, (Arg. vs. others) have shortened significantly.
                  Anyway demanding hedge funds are about to cash thousands% profits.
                  As the saying goes: muck is money

                  Comment

                  Working...
                  X