New Rules for News section

[EJ]

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With reluctance, I have to agree that some sort of "soft censorship" makes sense on an internet forum. There is just too much distraction
with poorly thought out stuff. The danger I see is that "censorhip bias" could creep in. I don't see any solution for that problem.

Zerohedge does have valuable information from time to time but the signal to noise ration is now too low to be usable.

iTulip News itself has I'm afraid succumbed to this. But the damage is reparable.

The solution is to engage the community in the decision to filter out the noise and decide what is noise and what is signal.

This will change over time so vigilance is needed.

[Slimprofits]

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I see Zerocrd's articles getting referenced in bigger and bigger blogging sites. His greatest "score" to date is some people on Market Watch are now referring to his tripe.

Bloomberg . com articles and Bloomberg . com /View opinion pieces as well.

[lakedaemonian]

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Zerohedge does have valuable information from time to time but the signal to noise ration is now too low to be usable.

iTulip News itself has I'm afraid succumbed to this. But the damage is reparable.

The solution is to engage the community in the decision to filter out the noise and decide what is noise and what is signal.

This will change over time so vigilance is needed.

Is it possible to use the "report post" function and the VBulletin reputation capability to burn the chaff and find the needles respectively?

[shiny!]

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Zerohedge does have valuable information from time to time but the signal to noise ration is now too low to be usable.

iTulip News itself has I'm afraid succumbed to this. But the damage is reparable.

The solution is to engage the community in the decision to filter out the noise and decide what is noise and what is signal.

This will change over time so vigilance is needed.

Most of Zerohedge's stories have links back to the original article. No reason (except laziness) why people can't follow the link to the source and post from that site if they think the article has value here.

[Slimprofits]

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Most of Zerohedge's stories have links back to the original article. No reason (except laziness) why people can't follow the link to the source and post from that site if they think the article has value here.

That is BY FAR the best part about ZH. Commenters respond to those blog entries with rants that celebrate ZH "scooping" the sources used to create the ZH blog entries.

[touchring]

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I'm not a fan of zerohedge but only started reading it because many mysterious things have been happening recently that MSM have missed out totally. MH370 disappearing over the Indian Ocean, HeartBleed exploit, ISIS, etc.

Perhaps this is a sign of an implending Ka.

[thriftyandboringinohio]

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Most of Zerohedge's stories have links back to the original article. No reason (except laziness) why people can't follow the link to the source and post from that site if they think the article has value here.

Shiny, I have done exactly that on several occasions.

[touchring]

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Just off my mind, two major world events that MSM failed to report:

First, the failure to report the actual conditions in Syria and Iraq that led to creation of ISIS. Most only knew about ISIS after they took over Mosul.

Second, the failure to report the severity of civil war in Ukraine that led to you know what.

Either one has the potential to lead to greater disaster in the future.

[Fox]

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Most of Zerohedge's stories have links back to the original article..

Oh really! Please post some links of ZH's articles that actually reference the source reports.

The primary reason I gave up on ZeroCred is not his hyperbole but because
A) He Does not post links to original reports
B) He cooks his data and charts because of A

Personally, I'm actually of the same frame of mind as ZeroCred. But there in lies the danger. It's easy to fall in line with what he says. However I use actually reported, or at least verified by multiple sources, data to keep a reality check on all the craziness going on.

ZeroCred provides great analysis without any facts which makes him just another ranting internet fool; albeit a well versed one

[thriftyandboringinohio]

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Oh really! Please post some links of ZH's articles that actually reference the source reports.

The primary reason I gave up on ZeroCred is not his hyperbole but because
A) He Does not post links to original reports
B) He cooks his data and charts because of A

Personally, I'm actually of the same frame of mind as ZeroCred. But there in lies the danger. It's easy to fall in line with what he says. However I use actually reported, or at least verified by multiple sources, data to keep a reality check on all the craziness going on.

ZeroCred provides great analysis without any facts which makes him just another ranting internet fool; albeit a well versed one

You are correct, Fox.
But ZH sometimes gives a nod of acknowledgement to the original source so you can find it.
Other times the topic and ideas can be found with a brief search.
That's how I find them.

Your other point, about ZH cooking, spinning, and twisting the original source is also true.
That's why I go to the source, and sometimes post that here.

[shiny!]

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Oh really! Please post some links of ZH's articles that actually reference the source reports.

I just went over to look. Of the fifteen stories on the front page, nine had links to the source. Three had none. Two had links for a portion of the story or the source was evident on the graphs. One took its analysis from a lot of Bloomberg stories and listed them, but without actual hyperlinks.

[lektrode]

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Bloomberg . com articles and Bloomberg . com /View opinion pieces as well.

so... there must be 'something' to/behind what he puts up on ZH, eh Slim?
and just like touchring and T&B allude to...
and i've mentioned a number of times: where theres smoke, theres usually a FIRE

[ASH]

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hallelujah!

And Amen!