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    How are Obama and the IRS Getting Away with a Blatant Cover-Up?


    By Kyle Smith
    June 21, 2014 | 11:33am






    This is pretty much how Lois Lerner has conducted herself throughout the investigation of the IRS scandal.

    To understand the latest outrage in the IRS scandal, mull over what might happen if regulators found significant evidence to implicate Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein in an insider trading scheme.

    Let’s say Blankfein asserted his Fifth Amendment right not to answer any questions. Say Goldman was subpoenaed to provide all of Blankfein’s emails. Goldman replied that, instead of complying with the subpoena, it was itself reviewing the emails in question and was considering which ones to release.


    Now imagine that, nearly a year later, Goldman admitted that it had not, in fact, reviewed the emails in question, because they had been lost in a computer crash two months before it claimed to be reviewing them. Imagine Goldman also said copies of the emails were lost, because while under subpoena, it had destroyed the “backup tapes” (whatever those are) that held them and that it had also thrown away Blankfein’s actual hard drive.


    The thing about dogs eating homework is, it could actually happen. This can’t.


    This is “The dog ate my hard drive, broke into another building, ate the backup of the hard drive, then broke into six other top officials’ offices and ate their hard drives also.”

    What we learned about the IRS this week is that there is an obvious criminal coverup that comes in addition to the possible underlying crimes. Prosecutions need to be brought against all of those involved.

    Why isn’t this happening already?


    Remember the O.J. Simpson trial, the one that consumed seemingly the entire mid-’90s? From crime to verdict, the whole thing took 16 months.
    The IRS scandal? It’s already been 13 months, and no one has even been charged. And no one will be charged. Congress has called the cops — the Justice Department — and the cops simply don’t care.
    It’s as if Goldman’s only regulator was an SEC that was being run by Blankfein’s poker buddies.





    Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein

    Yes, the IRS scandal differs from Watergate. In Watergate, the president appointed an independent-minded special prosecutor to investigate. It was considered a scandal when the president fired that special counsel, Archibald Cox, even though Cox was succeeded within less than two weeks by an equally ferocious prosecutor, Leon Jaworski.



    President Obama? He hasn’t even appointed a special prosecutor in the first place. That’s far worse.
    In Watergate, we were outraged that President Richard Nixon ordered the IRS to go after political foes — even though the IRS refused to do his bidding. A Nixon ally was forced to whine that the IRS was controlled by Democrats.

    There was evidently little or no evidence that IRS power was abused, because the second Article of Impeachment against Nixon charged merely that he “endeavored” to sic the IRS on enemies.


    In the Obama administration, on the other hand, we know that the IRS went after political foes. We don’t know whether the president was involved, but if Nixon’s IRS had targeted liberals because it believed it had an implicit go-ahead from the boss, wouldn’t that be fairly disturbing also? Would a breezy dismissal from Nixon make you feel better?


    Obama’s assertion that there was “not even a smidgeon of corruption” in the IRS’ attacks on right-wing groups does not reassure. Obama cannot have known there was no corruption given the mountain of evidence that has yet to be produced and now appears to have been destroyed. He could believe there was no corruption because he has faith in everyone who works under him, or he could know there was corruption and be lying about it, but he can’t know there was no corruption. It’s impossible.

    For all he knows, there’s a Lois Lerner email that says, “I want you to go after these Tea Party bastards with everything you got. Use every trick you can to keep them on the sidelines for this election cycle. Nuke those fascists.”





    IRS Commissioner John Koskinen is sworn in during a congressional
    hearing on the missing emails from the hard drive of former director Lois Lerner.



    Lerner wouldn’t have pleaded the Fifth unless she had reason to believe that there was potential illegality and it could be tied to her.



    A likely explanation for Obama’s bizarre “smidgeon” remark is that his well-known fondness for left-wing opinion writers led him to simply parrot their dismissal of the scandal: If it’s good enough for Jonathan Chait, our president thinks, it’s good enough for me!



    And here we come to a third major difference between the IRS’ apparent gross abuse of power and criminal cover-up and Watergate: Watergate was a much bigger deal simply because the press was relentless about following up on every detail.



    Today the media’s reasoning is roughly as follows: The IRS went after some conservative groups and is engaged in an illegal cover-up. We also don’t like these groups, also believe they deserve special scrutiny, and also think there’s something inherently shady about conservatives (but not liberals) who try to buy political influence. If White House staff says they weren’t involved, we’ll take their word for it.
    Pardon us if we’d rather cover something more relevant to American lives today. Like the 82-year-old name of the football team that plays in DC.



    http://nypost.com/2014/06/21/why-are...atant-coverup/

  • #2
    Re: Rule of Law? Or the Rule of Men.

    Originally posted by Raz View Post

    How are Obama and the IRS Getting Away with a Blatant Cover-Up?


    http://nypost.com/2014/06/21/why-are...atant-coverup/
    By Kyle Smith
    June 21, 2014 | 11:33am.....
    Lerner wouldn’t have pleaded the Fifth unless she had reason to believe that there was potential illegality and it could be tied to her.

    A likely explanation for Obama’s bizarre “smidgeon” remark is that his well-known fondness for left-wing opinion writers led him to simply parrot their dismissal of the scandal: If it’s good enough for Jonathan Chait, our president thinks, it’s good enough for me!

    And here we come to a third major difference between the IRS’ apparent gross abuse of power and criminal cover-up and Watergate: Watergate was a much bigger deal simply because the press was relentless about following up on every detail.

    Today the media’s reasoning is roughly as follows: The IRS went after some conservative groups and is engaged in an illegal cover-up. We also don’t like these groups, also believe they deserve special scrutiny, and also think there’s something inherently shady about conservatives (but not liberals) who try to buy political influence. If White House staff says they weren’t involved, we’ll take their word for it.
    Pardon us if we’d rather cover something more relevant to American lives today. Like the 82-year-old name of the football team that plays in DC.


    ha!
    or how about katie couric's wedding - out on the hamptons, no less - to a 'financier' - who doesnt seem to have a very high profile, media-wise - so, natch we dont learn much about HIM - other than having to dig a bit, to find out he's from - where?

    TA DA!!!

    chicago....

    meanwhile, we get BREATHLESS DRIVEL FROM THE CHATTERING CLASS fawning over every oh-so-relevant detail about ms couric (as IF we dont already know enuf about her...)

    but, interestingly (and typical) we DO get some interesting and quite relevant insight from the ole 'non-news network'

    Does a rogue, low-level email archiving company have backups of ‘lost’ IRS emails?

    By Doug Powers • June 22, 2014 10:54 AM
    **Written by Doug Powers


    This story failed the “smell test” quite a while ago, and now it just outright reeks.
    From the Daily Caller via Instapundit:
    The IRS signed a contract with Sonasoft, an email-archiving company based in San Jose, California, each year from 2005 to 2010. The company, which partners with Microsoft and counts The New York Times among its clients, claims in its company slogans that it provides “Email Archiving Done Right” and “Point-Click Recovery.” Sonasoft in 2009 tweeted, “If the IRS uses Sonasoft products to backup their servers why wouldn’t you choose them to protect your severs?”
    Sonasoft was providing “automatic data processing” services for the IRS throughout the January 2009 to April 2011 period in which Lerner sent her missing emails.
    But Sonasoft’s six-year business relationship with the IRS came to an abrupt end at the close of fiscal year 2011, as congressional investigators began looking into the IRS conservative targeting scandal and IRS employees’ computers started crashing left and right.

    The IRS is still on Sonasoft’s client list. Hopefully the company’s hard drives haven’t been “recycled” by the time the subpoena arrives.


    Disclaimer: There’s “not a smidgen of corruption” here and even if there is, it’s Fox News’ fault:







    and hey!
    even his detractors cant say that O'reilly hasnt been 'fair & balanced' with him....

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    • #3
      Re: Rule of Law? Or the Rule of Men.

      Originally posted by lektrode View Post
      ha!
      or how about katie couric's wedding - out on the hamptons, no less - to a 'financier' - who doesnt seem to have a very high profile, media-wise - so, natch we dont learn much about HIM - other than having to dig a bit, to find out he's from - where?

      TA DA!!!

      chicago....

      meanwhile, we get BREATHLESS DRIVEL FROM THE CHATTERING CLASS fawning over every oh-so-relevant detail about ms couric (as IF we dont already know enuf about her...)

      but, interestingly (and typical) we DO get some interesting and quite relevant insight from the ole 'non-news network'



      and hey!
      even his detractors cant say that O'reilly hasnt been 'fair & balanced' with him....
      I want you all to listen carefully.

      There are two elements of communication.

      1. Content (the information)
      2. Process (how the information is conveyed)

      A "real" President of the free world does not submit to interrogation by a journalist.

      This is insipid.

      The journalist is working for a for-profit corporation.

      The journalist's job is to sell the product.

      In the case of Bill O'Rielly the product is "President Obama and his policies suck."

      Obama is helping them sell the product.

      Incredible whether you agree with the product or not.

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      • #4
        Re: Rule of Law? Or the Rule of Men.

        All newspaper, TV, cable, radio and dot . com "news" revenue is generated by selling advertising space.

        I don't know if it's always been this way or if not, when the change occurred, but I do know that people seem to have fooled themselves into thinking they have some sort of a vague right of access to "good journalism".

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        • #5
          Re: Rule of Law? Or the Rule of Men.

          Originally posted by EJ View Post
          I want you all to listen carefully.

          There are two elements of communication.

          1. Content (the information)
          2. Process (how the information is conveyed)

          A "real" President of the free world does not submit to interrogation by a journalist.
          Whether I voted for a president or not and regardless of my feelings about the individual who becomes president, I want the president of my country treated respectfully. It was disturbing to me to hear O'Reilly interrupt the president repeatedly. Guess I'm old-fashioned that way.

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          • #6
            Re: Rule of Law? Or the Rule of Men.

            Originally posted by Verrocchio View Post
            Whether I voted for a president or not and regardless of my feelings about the individual who becomes president, I want the president of my country treated respectfully. It was disturbing to me to hear O'Reilly interrupt the president repeatedly. Guess I'm old-fashioned that way.
            I agree. But then O'Reilly is a well known jerk.

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            • #7
              Yes indeed: "Not a Smidgen of Corruption"



              June 25, 2014

              Not a Smidgen: IRS Pays $50,000 Settlement for Giving Conservative Tax Info to Political Opponent

              Katie Pavlich

              6/25/2014 8:45:00 AM - Katie Pavlich




              Isn't it weird when confidential tax information belonging to a conservative group, information that only the IRS has access to, is leaked and published on the website of a liberal political opponent?


              The IRS is paying out $50,000 in a settlement to the National Organization for Marriage after admitting the agency gave the group's tax information to the Human Rights Campaign, which used the information to attack the group publicly.
              The IRS has admitted wrongdoing and agreed to pay a $50,000 settlement to a conservative group after confidential information from the group’s tax returns about its donors was published on the website of a political opponent.

              A federal court ordered the U.S. government to pay the settlement to the National Organization for Marriage, a group that opposes same-sex marriage. The group sued the IRS last year after tax information from a 2008 form was leaked and ended up being published in 2012 by the Human Rights Campaign, which supports gay rights.

              The group’s chairman John Eastman said in a statement Tuesday that he is thankful that the IRS is being held accountable after a “long and arduous” process.

              “Thanks to a lot of hard work, we’ve forced the IRS to admit that they in fact were the ones to break the law and wrongfully released this confidential information,” he said.

              This is just another coincidence, I'm sure.

              Naturally, the Department of Justice, the same department that is supposed to be investigating the targeting of conservative groups, represented the IRS in this case.


              Since there was a clear admission of CRIMINAL wrongdoing I just know that any day now ole "Stonewall" Holder will be bringing criminal charges against the IRS employees who broke the law.

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              • #8
                Re: Rule of Law? Or the Rule of Men.

                Originally posted by Verrocchio View Post
                Whether I voted for a president or not and regardless of my feelings about the individual who becomes president, I want the president of my country treated respectfully. It was disturbing to me to hear O'Reilly interrupt the president repeatedly. Guess I'm old-fashioned that way.
                I thought I wanted that for a long time when this current President took office. But he keeps calling me and every other American a f***ing idiot--to our faces! Over and over and over and over again. We're long past the point of showing respect. O'Reilly is a terrible person and a perfect fit for the President in an interview.

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                • #9
                  Re: Rule of Law? Or the Rule of Men.

                  Originally posted by Slimprofits View Post
                  All newspaper, TV, cable, radio and dot . com "news" revenue is generated by selling advertising space.

                  I don't know if it's always been this way or if not, when the change occurred, but I do know that people seem to have fooled themselves into thinking they have some sort of a vague right of access to "good journalism".
                  Accountability commands respect in equal measure.

                  If the man does not command respect and submits to such unseemly interrogation it is because he does not feel that he deserves better, because he does not hold himself accountable.

                  And very likely he isn't.

                  He's working for someone and it ain't us.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Rule of Law? Or the Rule of Men.

                    From and old magazine man (In his 90's and quickly approaching the century mark)

                    If you are going to bombard the reader with advertisement, you have to reward the reader, otherwise they stop reading your paper.
                    The reward he was talking about was meaty, useful news content. It seems that the scales have tipped and the reader is now content
                    with flashy advertising that fills the hole in their materialist self and content is not as necessary to sell media.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Yes indeed: "Not a Smidgen of Corruption"

                      What about the June 30 2012 letter from Carl Levin to Douglas Schulman commissioner of the IRS where specific groups are called out for "examination"
                      Although the letter constructs a legal argument about what 501c4 orgs can and can't do, both the group naming and the timing of the letter seem slightly shady to me.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Rule of Law? Or the Rule of Men.

                        Originally posted by EJ View Post
                        He's working for someone and it ain't us.
                        They all are, with very few exceptions. It's a big puppet show with monied interests pulling their strings. Political theater is like professional wrestling, only not as classy.

                        Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Rule of Law? Or the Rule of Men.

                          Originally posted by Slimprofits View Post
                          All newspaper, TV, cable, radio and dot . com "news" revenue is generated by selling advertising space.

                          I don't know if it's always been this way or if not, when the change occurred, but I do know that people seem to have fooled themselves into thinking they have some sort of a vague right of access to "good journalism".
                          I think that's why I spend more time on subscription based magazines then electronic media. The electronic media has 0 marginal cost of production, so a subscription model does not work, hence it's a popularity game, not a quality game.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Rule of Law? Or the Rule of Men.

                            Originally posted by Slimprofits View Post
                            All newspaper, TV, cable, radio and dot . com "news" revenue is generated by selling advertising space.

                            I don't know if it's always been this way or if not, when the change occurred, but I do know that people seem to have fooled themselves into thinking they have some sort of a vague right of access to "good journalism".
                            The people didn't fool themselves; they were fooled.

                            Access to quality news, information and editorial content was promised to them by publishers, editors and the whole of the profession. I always understood it as the "quid" exchanged for the "quo" of the First Amendment and a recognition of the importance of the free press in a democratic republic. But the elite of the profession reneged on the promise in exchange for access to big money. Wall Street and the bankers made it possible and the politicians and ideologues cheered it on. Together they broke down the wall between advertising and editorial not realizing (or caring) it bore the load for the whole edifice. And we wonder why we are left with rubble?

                            Back in the days when "the printer" was an old ink stained dude who worked with plates and presses, no one had to tell this cub reporter there was a wall of separation between editorial and advertising. It was there and everyone respected it. The paper was run to deliver news and the advertising was there to support that work. The attitude at times was such that no one from advertising should ever darken the newsroom. And the idea of putting adverts on the front page above the fold was as welcome as a no-smoking sign in the newsroom.

                            Those days are gone, like the clatter of typewriter keys or the green glow of the Wang word processor. There was a time when the publisher respected the wall but understood it more as a picket fence delineating neighbors with common interests. The best editors and publishers took pains to maintain a balance between the demands of the business and the need for editorial independence. Recall that large, national news organizations only recently were expected to operate at a profit and subjected to the same demands of growth as any other widget company. Prior to that the big three and others would often run their news divisions at a loss, such was the sense of mission and civic responsibility to which was aspired.

                            "Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter."
                            Thos. Jefferson knew what he was talking about. And we've seen what happens to a country where there is government without [effective] newspapers. In our case, we devolved into an empire resembling a banana republic with nuclear weapons.

                            It's my opinion that EJ takes the wrong attitude when he says "a 'real' President of the free world does not submit to interrogation by a journalist." Respectfully, I can only wonder what is "real" or "free" about a president or a government that holds itself above the people by refusing to submit to journalistic interrogation? The only real thing in that arrangement is the free exercise of power by those in possession of it; everything else is illusion and sleight of hand as far as democracy and the consent of the governed is concerned. And the same goes for the notion that reporters must be "respectful" to presidents and politicians alike. Me, I think that's balloon juice, right up there with journalists counting themselves among the insiders whom they cover.

                            The relationship between the press and the state is either adversarial or supportive. When it ceases to be adversarial, it ceases to produce news and becomes an adjunct of government delivering public relations and perception management. That is what we have today.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Rule of Law? Or the Rule of Men.

                              +1
                              Well stated old chap!

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