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    With more than six million American children having received a diagnosis of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, concern has been rising that the condition is being significantly misdiagnosed and overtreated with prescription medications.

    Yet now some powerful figures in mental health are claiming to have identified a new disorder that could vastly expand the ranks of young people treated for attention problems. Called sluggish cognitive tempo, the condition is said to be characterized by lethargy, daydreaming and slow mental processing. By some researchers’ estimates, it is present in perhaps two million children.

    Experts pushing for more research into sluggish cognitive tempo say it is gaining momentum toward recognition as a legitimate disorder — and, as such, a candidate for pharmacological treatment. Some of the condition’s researchers have helped Eli Lilly investigate how its flagship A.D.H.D. drug might treat it.

    The Journal of Abnormal Child Psychology devoted 136 pages of its January issue to papers describing the illness, with the lead paper claiming that the question of its existence “seems to be laid to rest as of this issue.” The psychologist Russell Barkley of the Medical University of South Carolina, for 30 years one of A.D.H.D.’s most influential and visible proponents, has claimed in research papers and lectures that sluggish cognitive tempo “has become the new attention disorder.”

    “These children are not the ones giving adults much trouble, so they’re easy to miss. They’re the daydreamy ones, the ones with work that’s not turned in, leaving names off of papers or skipping questions, things like that, that impinge on grades or performance. So anything we can do to understand what’s going on with these kids is a good thing.”

    Some experts, including Dr. McBurnett and some members of the journal’s editorial board, say that there is no consensus on the new disorder’s specific symptoms, let alone scientific validity. They warn that the concept’s promotion without vastly more scientific rigor could expose children to unwarranted diagnoses and prescription medications — problems that A.D.H.D. already faces.

    “We’re seeing a fad in evolution: Just as A.D.H.D. has been the diagnosis du jour for 15 years or so, this is the beginning of another,” said Dr. Allen Frances, an emeritus professor of psychiatry at Duke University. “This is a public health experiment on millions of kids.”

    Dr. Barkley declined repeated requests for interviews about his work and statements regarding sluggish cognitive tempo. Several of the field’s other key researchers, Stephen P. Becker of Cincinnati Children’s Hospital Medical Center, Benjamin B. Lahey of the University of Chicago and Stephen A. Marshall of Ohio University, also declined to comment on their work.


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    Re: Apparently the ADHD Profit Curve Has Flattened

    Experts pushing for more research into sluggish cognitive tempo say it is gaining momentum toward recognition as a legitimate disorder — and, as such, a candidate for pharmacological treatment. Some of the condition’s researchers have helped Eli Lilly investigate how its flagship A.D.H.D. drug might treat it.
    Arrogant intervention, creating the drug and then inventing new diseases to treat it with.

    Also, the continuing attempt to remove volatility (Ironing Board Ben style) from human emotions, i.e. The Great Moderation.
    Last edited by Slimprofits; April 12, 2014, 11:46 AM. Reason: spelling mistakes

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      Re: Apparently the ADHD Profit Curve Has Flattened

      Originally posted by ny times
      Papers have proposed that a recognition of sluggish cognitive tempo could help resolve some longstanding confusion about A.D.H.D., which despite having hyperactivity in its name includes about two million children who are not hyperactive, merely inattentive. Some researchers propose that about half of those children would be better classified as having sluggish cognitive tempo, with perhaps one million additional children, who do not meet A.D.H.D.’s criteria now, having the new disorder, too.

      there is a diagnosis, attention deficit disorder, inattentive type, which does not require hyperactivity. it sounds like this group of kids might meet criteria for that, called ADD instead of ADHD for a reason.

      there are several problems raised here:

      as i tell medical students when i teach them, psychiatry has a 19th century diagnostic system [along with 20th century treatments, and some 21st century basic science]. what did chopin die of? CONSUMPTION. consumption was characterized by night sweats, fevers, weight loss, spitting up blood. it was a syndrome, not a disease: this is to say that it was a constellation of co-occurring symptoms, without understanding what the cause was, or even knowing whether that constellation included some degree of mere coincidence. we now know that most "consumption" was really tuberculosis, though some might have been brucellosis or some other diseases.


      this is what i mean by a 19th century diagnostic approach: it is diagnosis by checklist. every diagnosis is a syndrome, and we are not sure whether our diagnoses are really accurate categories of disease.


      by the way, don't think that this implies that treatments don't work. digitalis was discovered and used effectively long before we understood the mechanism of heart failure. so were salicylates in general, and aspirin in particular used long before we knew anything about prostaglandins. so our treatments are empirical, and we sometimes think [or hope] that the mechanisms of treatment shed light on the pathophysiology of the disease being treated. however, we must keep in mind that a strep throat is not the consequence of a penicillin deficiency.


      attention deficit disorder is a real phenomenon, although i think it's really a "final common pathway" for a diverse set of underlying conditions which are not well understood. i had a patient in his early 20's come to me after dropping out of his 3rd college, saying he thought something must be wrong with him, since he didn't seem able to succeed doing work that appeared to be within his understanding. i gave him a stimulant and he went back to school and got a degree in computer science. he said that before he was given meds, he only knew the nature of his own consciousness, and thought everyone must experience the world the way he did. he then said that, in retrospect, being OFF meds was like having two drinks, in terms of the difference in his ability to focus on a task.


      otoh, it is in the interest of pharmaceutical companies to create new diagnoses so that they can market their drugs more widely. my favorite
      example of this was eli lilly's creation of "pre-menstrual dysphoric disorder," i.e. really bad pms. it turns out that ssri's [drugs like prozac, zoloft, et al] help with pms moodiness and irritability. [interestingly, although these meds take a month to help with depression or anxiety disorders, they work the same day for pms.] so lilly financed studies on women with bad pms, and got an fda approval to market fluoxetine [prozac] for doctors to prescribe to women for pms. except they called it "sarafem" and colored it pink!
      Last edited by jk; April 12, 2014, 12:08 PM.

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        Re: Apparently the ADHD Profit Curve Has Flattened

        Its pretty obvious now that the pharmaceutical industry drives a lot of this new "diseases". If you don't have something they will find an illness for you. Recurring revenue is the name of the game. It has to be a drug that will require lifetime use. None of this take a pill and you are cured business. I am very skeptical and frankly they have corrupted the whole mainstream medical establishment by throwing so much money around even good doctors will find a way to rationalize playing along. It's all very dystopian in nature. How long before the mind control happy drugs hit the market?

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          Re: Apparently the ADHD Profit Curve Has Flattened

          Originally posted by flintlock View Post
          How long before the mind control happy drugs hit the market?
          i'm waiting for big pharma to get into genetically engineered marijuana.

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            Re: Apparently the ADHD Profit Curve Has Flattened

            Originally posted by flintlock View Post
            Its pretty obvious now that the pharmaceutical industry drives a lot of this new "diseases". If you don't have something they will find an illness for you. Recurring revenue is the name of the game. It has to be a drug that will require lifetime use. None of this take a pill and you are cured business. I am very skeptical and frankly they have corrupted the whole mainstream medical establishment by throwing so much money around even good doctors will find a way to rationalize playing along. It's all very dystopian in nature. How long before the mind control happy drugs hit the market?
            I wouldn't isolate Big Pharma and assume it is somehow unique in this change. I watched from the inside as Big Oil, which has to invest $Billions in reserves development projects that can take a decade to execute and several decades to produce out, increasingly came under the financialization (FIRE economy) disease, where quarterly results and "analysts' forecasts are paramount in the competition for capital.

            As FIRE financialized the world, Big Pharma responded to the same influences as Big Oil. New cures that take years to develop, test and secure approval become less and less desirable in a quarterly financial results world. Which do you think the Wall Street analysts and "the market" prefer...drugs that provide a cure for something undesired, or drugs that cater to a "need" that becomes desired?

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              Re: Apparently the ADHD Profit Curve Has Flattened

              Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
              I wouldn't isolate Big Pharma and assume it is somehow unique in this change. I watched from the inside as Big Oil, which has to invest $Billions in reserves development projects that can take a decade to execute and several decades to produce out, increasingly came under the financialization (FIRE economy) disease, where quarterly results and "analysts' forecasts are paramount in the competition for capital.

              As FIRE financialized the world, Big Pharma responded to the same influences as Big Oil. New cures that take years to develop, test and secure approval become less and less desirable in a quarterly financial results world. Which do you think the Wall Street analysts and "the market" prefer...drugs that provide a cure for something undesired, or drugs that cater to a "need" that becomes desired?
              this financialization may also explain why big pharma no longer does its own basic [early] research/drug development. instead big pharma just buys small companies which have developed something new.

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                Re: Apparently the ADHD Profit Curve Has Flattened

                Originally posted by jk View Post
                i'm waiting for big pharma to get into genetically engineered marijuana.
                I bet it will be a cannbis cocktail with some additive to enhance activity and/or minimize THC/CBD side effects, and which of course will be patented and promoted by the newly formed class of medical marijuana carpet baggers.

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                  Re: Apparently the ADHD Profit Curve Has Flattened

                  Do we know how many of these mass shootings, have some kind of mind altering drugs as a contributing factor?

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                    Re: Apparently the ADHD Profit Curve Has Flattened

                    Originally posted by charliebrown View Post
                    Do we know how many of these mass shootings, have some kind of mind altering drugs as a contributing factor?
                    I have no idea of the facts, but it's easy to speculate on a narrative theory and an analogy. The mind altering drugs are akin to Bernanke's Great Moderation. The emotional (and market) blow ups are fewer and farther between, but much larger and more explosive when they do happen. i.e. bottling up

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                      Re: Apparently the ADHD Profit Curve Has Flattened

                      in 2 cases- the guy who shot gabrielle giffords in az and the aurora colorado cinema shooter - the killers had UNTREATED psychiatric illnesses. they had both been on meds, the former for schizophrenia and the latter for bipolar disorder, but had stopped their meds some time before they went on their rampages.

                      so those incidents, at least, point away from illicit drug use as a cause, and towards the LACK of proper pharmaceutical use.

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                        Re: Apparently the ADHD Profit Curve Has Flattened

                        Originally posted by flintlock View Post
                        How long before the mind control happy drugs hit the market?
                        Mother's Little Helper, anyone?

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                          Re: Apparently the ADHD Profit Curve Has Flattened

                          Originally posted by Slimprofits View Post
                          Mother's Little Helper, anyone?
                          no need to wait for those; they've been around for a long time. i just did a search on it and the candidates were nembutal, miltown, valium and even quaaludes. i think nembutal was the first of that bunch of candidates, and goes back to the 1930's.

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                            Re: Apparently the ADHD Profit Curve Has Flattened

                            Originally posted by jk View Post
                            i'm waiting for big pharma to get into genetically engineered marijuana.
                            Marinol - their first (?) attempt?

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                              Re: Apparently the ADHD Profit Curve Has Flattened

                              Originally posted by Slimprofits View Post
                              Marinol - their first (?) attempt?
                              yes, you're right.
                              i guess i was thinking of the pharma and biotech companies maybe getting in bed with the cigarette manufacturers or liquor companies, which have the distribution in place, to produce recreational, non-pharmaceutical, non-prescription products of higher quality than anything that nature has provided to date.

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