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    Koch Group, Spending Freely, Hones Attack on Government

    By CARL HULSE and ASHLEY PARKER


    WASHINGTON — Americans for Prosperity — the group backed by David H. and Charles G. Koch that has been pouring millions of dollars into competitive Senate races to the rising alarm of Democrats — was also among the politically active groups on the ground in this month’s special House election on Florida’s Gulf Coast.

    But its agenda had little to do with the fate of David Jolly, the Republican candidate who won that race. The group’s ground troops — including those who knocked on doors, ran phone banks and reached out through social media to gauge ways to motivate voters — were part of a much greater project, with a prize much larger than a congressional seat.

    Americans for Prosperity turned the Florida contest into its personal electoral laboratory to fine-tune get-out-the-vote tools and messaging for future elections as it pursues its overarching goal of convincing Americans that big government is bad government.

    “We’re focused on optimizing our efforts,” said James Davis of Freedom Partners, a Koch-influenced trade association that distributes hundreds of millions of dollars to Americans for Prosperity and other conservative groups. “Being in the field and testing during the slower periods, and in smaller areas, allows you to refine strategy and tactics so that you can make the larger investments with confidence.”

    “Too often our side will gear up for an individual issue battle or in some cases an election, but we don’t have a permanent infrastructure,” Mr. Phillips said. “What we took from studying it was that we have to have a bigger, more permanent infrastructure on the ground in these states, and this takes time.”


    Koch Industries

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Koch Industries, Inc. /ˈkk/ is an American multinational corporation based in Wichita, Kansas, United States, with subsidiaries involved in manufacturing, trading and investments. Koch also owns Invista, Georgia-Pacific, Flint Hills Resources, Koch Pipeline, Koch Fertilizer, Koch Minerals and Matador Cattle Company. Koch companies are involved in core industries such as the manufacturing, refining and distribution[1] of petroleum, chemicals, energy, fiber, intermediates and polymers, minerals, fertilizers, pulp and paper, chemical technology equipment, ranching,[3] finance,[citation needed] commodities trading, as well as other ventures and investments. The firm employs 50,000 people in the United States and another 20,000 in 59 other countries.[4]

    In 2013, Forbes called it the second largest privately held company in the United States (after Cargill), with an annual revenue of $115 billion,[5][6][7] down from the largest in 2006. If Koch Industries were a public company in 2013, it would have ranked 17 in the Fortune 500.[8]

    Fred C. Koch, after whom Koch Industries, Inc. is named, co-founded the company in 1940 and developed an innovative crude oil refining process.[9] His sons, Charles Koch, chairman of the board and chief executive officer, and David H. Koch, executive vice president, are principal owners of the company after they bought out their brothers, Frederick and William "Bill" Koch, for $1.1 billion in 1983.[10] Charles and David H. Koch each own 42% of Koch Industries, and Charles has stated that the company will publicly offer shares "literally over my dead body".[5]

    are there any 'tulipers that think the Koch Bros are the beneficiaries of Big Government?



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    Re: Smaller Government Now! (Guess Who)

    Originally posted by don View Post
    Koch Group, Spending Freely, Hones Attack on Government

    ....

    are there any 'tulipers that think the Koch Bros are the beneficiaries of Big Government?


    is there anybody in the 'big' category that ISNT ?

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      Re: Smaller Government Now! (Guess Who)

      Originally posted by lektrode View Post
      is there anybody in the 'big' category that ISNT ?
      I doubt it. So the Koch boyz must mean for someone else when they want a "smaller government".

      Who could that be . . . .

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        Re: Smaller Government Now! (Guess Who)

        It might be a long term play...the Koch Industries are family owned, family run...they have milked the government cow for all it was worth, but look at what they make/do/provide:

        Asphalt, chemicals,commodities trading,energy,fibers, fertilizers, finance,minerals, natural gas,plastics, petroleum, pulp and paper, ranching

        You cannot provide a lot of the above if no one is able to buy it due to a permanently stalled economy, and a government run by a bunch of nudging progressives, because the progressives will nudge the economy over onto it's turtle backed shell.

        Not to mention that our progressives have had the same nasty effect on the entire globe's economy...not just the USA.

        Besides, the government has given pretty much all it can away already...the Koch brothers need some of their old poker buddies back in the seats of power to prepare for what is to come in 15 years...it will take that long to set it up.

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          Re: Smaller Government Now! (Guess Who)

          What is to come in 15 years?

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            Re: Smaller Government Now! (Guess Who)

            Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
            What is to come in 15 years?
            World wide Demographics change...a lot of older people will die in the West and Western Asia, and many younger than before with lesser medical care, increasingly bad cheap food (poisonous and without nutrients), and the stressor of major societal and technical change.

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              Re: Smaller Government Now! (Guess Who)

              By Michael Kreiger

              One of the primary topics on this website since it was launched has been the extremely destructive and explosive rise of crony capitalism throughout the USA. It is crony capitalism, as opposed to free markets, that has led to the gross inequality in American society we have today. Cronyism for the super wealthy starts at the very top with the Federal Reserve System, which consists of topdown economic central planners who manipulate the money supply and hence interest rates for the benefit of the financial oligarch class. It then trickles down through lobbyist money into the halls of Washington D.C.,and ultimately filters down to local governments and then the average person on the street gaming welfare or disability.

              As such, we now live in a culture of corruption and theft that is pervasive throughout society. One thing that bothers me to no end is when fake Republicans focus their criticism on struggling people who need welfare or food stamps to survive. They have this absurd notion that the whole welfare system doesn’t start with the multinational corporations and Central Banks at the top. In reality, it is at the top where the cancer starts, and that’s where we should focus in order to achieve real change.

              That’s where a new report from Open the Books on corporate welfare comes in. In a preview of the publication, the organization notes:

              If Republicans are going to get truly serious about cutting government spending, they are going to have to snip the umbilical cord from the Treasury to corporate America. You can’t reform welfare programs for the poor until you’ve gotten Daddy Warbucks off the dole. Voters will insist on that — as well they should.

              So why hasn’t it happened? Why hasn’t the GOP pledged to end corporate welfare as we know it?

              Part of the explanation is that too many have gotten confused about the difference between free-market capitalism and crony capitalism.



              And part of the problem is corporate welfare that is so well hidden from public view in the budget that no one has really measured how big this mountain of giveaway cash to the Fortune 500 really is. Finding out is like trying to break into the CIA.

              Until now. Open the Books, an Illinois-based watchdog group, has been scrupulously monitoring all federal grants, loans, direct payments and insurance subsidies flowing to individuals and companies.

              It’s an attempt to force federal agencies to release information on where the $4 trillion budget is really spent — and Open the Books will release a new report on corporate welfare payments to the Fortune 100 companies from 2000 to 2012.

              Over that period, the 100 received $1.2 trillion in payments from the federal government.

              That number does not include the hundreds of billions of dollars in housing, bank and auto company bailouts in 2008 and 2009, because those payments and where they went are kept mostly invisible in the federal agency books.

              As suspected, the biggest welfare queens in the U.S. are the super wealthy themselves, but they’d rather you focus on some single mother on welfare simply trying to survive.
              I have been trying to track down the full report with no luck as of yet. If I am able to, I will update this post.

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                Re: Smaller Government Now! (Guess Who)

                Now if we can only get this enlightening activity by Open the Books converted into an exciting bare knuckles game or a thrilling TV reality show.... < crickets chirping > Oh well. Come on everyone. Huddle round the FIRE.
                "I love a dog, he does nothing for political reasons." --Will Rogers

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