Re: Does A More Equal Marriage Mean Less Sex
Why must I defend my actions when I was the one personally attacked first? My immediate goal is to understand this.
Which was why its ludicrous to launch a personal attack on someone without defining what is so inherently abstract. If I had said I don't believe in all that not robbing people crap then perhaps there is no need, and I have confessed to moral depravity already. I could go into how they have indirectly admitted their guilt. One had to qualify what was meant by equality while the other kept saying what I said was true but that there was something deeply sinister. But its beating a dead horse. It is however very instructive of group think and how it works. Just stop insulting me with out provocation is all I ask. I claimed to be insulted first so go ahead and refute it. If not then why am I defending myself? If something sounds deserving of harsh treatment then be sure to clear up any ambiguity.
Now understand I am not emotionally hurt by this. I am intellectually offended at the thought process. Its not sound thinking.
Advancement occurs by the number of attempts, but a mono culture will have little of that and be forced to use our ability to invent, which quite frankly sucks. I don't like monocultures in nature either as I explained with bananas.
The principle is the same. We will not discover better bananas when they are a monoculture. We will be forced to invent one. Yet so far the best alternatives are to turn to other "wild bananas".
Originally posted by jk
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i think in this discussion people were assuming different definitions of "equality." some people took it to mean identical in every way, as in mathematical equality. others took it to mean something more abstract, such as "equal before the law," i.e. equal in rights but not in properties [and when i say "properties" i don't mean real estate, i mean it in the way someone might say that a mathematical object has certain properties, say transitivity or commutivity. or the way we might say that someone is more skilled or able to perform some specified task].
Now understand I am not emotionally hurt by this. I am intellectually offended at the thought process. Its not sound thinking.
you are packing together a lot of ideas here, and the connections among them are not completely obvious to me. i don't know what it means to say that people think they are masters of invention. certainly there are things we call inventions and even things recognized as "inventions" by being patented. you seem to mean something both broader and more profound, but i'm not sure what you have in mind.
your observations about the biology of food preparation, and those about the dangers of monocultures certainly make sense to me. you then jump to "social inventions" without making clear what that encompasses, though i suppose you are talking about the concept of "equality." i think i could guess how you think this kind of concept would "suppress and destroy dissent and opportunities for discovery," but my guesses may or may not be a description of what you have in mind. also it is not clear to me in what manner we are "consuming the source of discovery." so you might want to unpack those conclusions if you want to be fully understood.
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