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  • #31
    Re: Four banker suicides within a week - A sign, or mere coincidence?

    rumors tie it to a Comex price-fixing scandal . . .

    12 MARCH 2014

    Ted Butler: Why Not Just Close the COMEX

    This column tonight from Ted Butler at Butler Research set me back a bit. It would be like one of the most die hard economist Fed watchers, after forty years in the business, coming out and saying that the Fed has gone so far off the rails that we ought to just shut it down.

    It is a subscription only site, and so I cannot do justice to his reasoning which was far more extensive and complete than what I excerpt here.

    Rather than closing the COMEX, engaging in some substantial reform and bringing it back to its original purposes would be preferable. But in the current climate of financial corruption and regulatory weakness it is not practically achievable, at least not yet.

    Here is just a snippet of what Ted had to say.


    "Not to be delusional, I have little expectation that the COMEX will be closed; but I think the idea has merit and should be considered. In fact, the vast majority of market participants and society as a whole would benefit from a closing of the COMEX for the simple reason that all the commodities traded there have been manipulated in price. The simplest way of ending these manipulations is to shut down the mechanism of manipulation...

    Since it can be demonstrated and proven thru CFTC data that prices are set on the COMEX with no input from the real world producers or consumers, society as a whole would benefit if the COMEX didn’t exist. This is a private club that has no legitimacy in dictating to the world what prices should be.

    The COMEX has undermined and replaced the free market law of supply and demand with a phony price-setting mechanism never intended when Congress authorized regulated futures trading. The COMEX is not functioning as intended and it’s hard to see what might change that. As such, it should be shut down."





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    • #32
      Re: Four banker suicides within a week - A sign, or mere coincidence?

      For a market that is flirting with all time highs on a daily basis, the recent banker and trader suicide epidemic seems oddly out of place. And yet, it continues to claim even more victims, with the latest casuality being Edmund Reilly, 47, a trader at Midtown's Vertical Group, who as the Post reported, jumped in front of an LIRR train station yesterday at 6 am near the Syosset train station and was pronounced dead at the scene.

      A Manhattan trader was killed Tuesday morning by a speeding Long Island Rail Road commuter train, marking at least the seventh suicide of a financial professional this year.

      Edmund (Eddie) Reilly, 47, a trader at Midtown’s Vertical Group, jumped in front of an LIRR train at 6 a.m. near the Syosset train station. He was declared dead at the scene.

      Reilly’s identity was confirmed by Salvatore Arena, an LIRR spokesperson, who said an investigation into the incident was continuing.

      Passengers on the west-bound express train told MTA investigators they saw a man standing by the tracks before he jumped in front of the train, Arena said.

      “Eddie was a great guy,” Rob Schaffer, a managing director at Vertical, told The Post in an email. “We are very upset and he will be deeply missed.”

      The divorced father of three had rented a house around the corner from his ex-wife, Michelle Reilly, in East Norwich, NY.

      One family friend, who said he spoke to the trader on Sunday, told The Post that Reilly “didn’t look good.”



      This latest death brings the recent banker death tally to 10:

      1 - William Broeksmit, 58-year-old former senior executive at Deutsche Bank AG, was found dead in his home after an apparent suicide in South Kensington in central London, on January 26th.
      2 - Karl Slym, 51 year old Tata Motors managing director Karl Slym, was found dead on the fourth floor of the Shangri-La hotel in Bangkok on January 27th.
      3 - Gabriel Magee, a 39-year-old JP Morgan employee, died after falling from the roof of the JP Morgan European headquarters in London on January 27th.
      4 - Mike Dueker, 50-year-old chief economist of a US investment bank was found dead close to the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in Washington State.
      5 - Richard Talley, the 57 year old founder of American Title Services in Centennial, Colorado, was found dead earlier this month after apparently shooting himself with a nail gun.
      6 - Tim Dickenson, a U.K.-based communications director at Swiss Re AG, also died last month, however the circumstances surrounding his death are still unknown.
      7 - Ryan Henry Crane, a 37 year old executive at JP Morgan died in an alleged suicide just a few weeks ago. No details have been released about his death aside from this small obituary announcement at the Stamford Daily Voice.
      8 - Li Junjie, 33-year-old banker in Hong Kong jumped from the JP Morgan HQ in Hong Kong this week.
      9 - James Stuart Jr, Former National Bank of Commerce CEO, found dead in Scottsdale, Ariz., the morning of Feb. 19. A family spokesman did not say whatcaused the death
      10 - Edmund (Eddie) Reilly, 47, a trader at Midtown’s Vertical Group, commited suicide by jumping in front of LIRR train

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      • #33
        Re: Four banker suicides within a week - A sign, or mere coincidence?

        Is no one else even considering the other possibility mentioned in the thread's title, that this is a series of mere coincidences? We're looking back at a time series of data. There exists the possibility that it's random noise that these deaths happened within close time proximity. And I think it's clear that the proximity is what feeds our mind's appetite to create a narrative around the data points. Looking at the actual list, the narrative, IMO falls apart: James Stuart Jr., hasn't been with National Bank since 2000 when he left to start his own investment office. http://www.omaha.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...NEWS/140229237 Karl Slym - Tata Motors is an Indian auto manufacturing company, not a bank. Eddie Reilly - The Vertical Group is a Venture Capital firm, not a bank. Tim Dickensen - Swiss RE is a Reinsurance Company, not a bank. Richard Talley - American Title Services, is, you guessed it, a Title Insurance company, not a bank. Mike Duecker, okay he worked for a bank, but as an economist, not a trader, in the "risk management" department or as an executive.
        Last edited by Slimprofits; March 13, 2014, 08:39 AM.

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        • #34
          Re: Four banker suicides within a week - A sign, or mere coincidence?

          The problem is no one cares. So far no scandal is too big, everyone is focused on living their life, playing on facebook or whatever to care much of what is going on in the financial markets. And the financial market participants have too much at stake to speak out against the banks who perpetuate the schemes.

          I always like to repeat one of the first things told to me when I first entered finance "don't worry about anyone else, make your money and get out"

          That is all anyone cares about.

          Manipulation? Who cares, what are the regulators going to do about it?

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          • #35
            Re: Four banker suicides within a week - A sign, or mere coincidence?

            Originally posted by ProdigyofZen View Post
            The problem is no one cares. So far no scandal is too big, everyone is focused on living their life, playing on facebook or whatever to care much of what is going on in the financial markets. And the financial market participants have too much at stake to speak out against the banks who perpetuate the schemes.

            I always like to repeat one of the first things told to me when I first entered finance "don't worry about anyone else, make your money and get out"

            That is all anyone cares about.

            Manipulation? Who cares, what are the regulators going to do about it?
            Funny, someone said that same thing in another context just a moment ago:

            Originally posted by Woodsman View Post
            And few give a damn, certainly no one with the ability to do anything about it. It's the way things are and no single one of us no matter our wealth or authority can do a thing to stop it. And no institution seems up to the task, least of all the ones charged with looking after such things.

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            • #36
              Re: Four banker suicides within a week - A sign, or mere coincidence?

              The banker suicide saga has just reached a new level as a top level JPMorgan attorney has been exterminated in a hit & run incident involving a minivan.

              JPM attorney Joseph Giampapa was killed over the weekend when he was struck by a minivan in a hit and run incident. Giampapa was reportedly hit and thrown 150 ft and was pronounced dead at the scene. No charges have been filed.

              It gets better: Giampapa was JPMorgan’s top commercial bankruptcy lawyer (SVP).

              Somehow we suspect the incident was not inflicted by a soccer mom.

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              • #37
                Re: Four banker suicides within a week - A sign, or mere coincidence?

                Originally posted by don View Post
                The banker suicide saga has just reached a new level as a top level JPMorgan attorney has been exterminated in a hit & run incident involving a minivan.

                JPM attorney Joseph Giampapa was killed over the weekend when he was struck by a minivan in a hit and run incident. Giampapa was reportedly hit and thrown 150 ft and was pronounced dead at the scene. No charges have been filed.

                It gets better: Giampapa was JPMorgan’s top commercial bankruptcy lawyer (SVP).

                Somehow we suspect the incident was not inflicted by a soccer mom.
                ChaCHING!

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                • #38
                  Re: Four banker suicides within a week - A sign, or mere coincidence?

                  Will JPM's (multiple) life insurance policies on Giampapa be made public . . .

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                  • #39
                    Re: Four banker suicides within a week - A sign, or mere coincidence?

                    Saga? Sigh.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Four banker suicides within a week - A sign, or mere coincidence?

                      Originally posted by don View Post
                      Will JPM's (multiple) life insurance policies on Giampapa be made public . . .
                      BOLI BOLI The beast begins to feed on itself.

                      Suggestion for new sign at entrance to JPMorgan's lobby:

                      "All hope abandon, ye who enter here"
                      "I love a dog, he does nothing for political reasons." --Will Rogers

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                      • #41
                        Re: Four banker suicides within a week - A sign, or mere coincidence?

                        ABN Amro Ex-CEO Found Dead


                        04/05/2014 - 18:17



                        A mere two weeks since former JPMorgan banker, Kenneth Bellando jumped to his death, Bloomberg reports that the former CEO of Dutch Bank ABN Amro (and his wife and daughter) were found dead at their home after a possible "family tragedy." This expands the dismal list of senior financial services executive deaths to 12 in the last few months. The 57-year-old Jan Peter Schmittmann, was reportedly discovered by his other daughter when she arrived home that morning.Police declined to comment on the cirumstances of his (and his wife and daughter's) death.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Four banker suicides within a week - A sign, or mere coincidence?

                          Originally posted by don View Post
                          ABN Amro Ex-CEO Found Dead


                          04/05/2014 - 18:17



                          A mere two weeks since former JPMorgan banker, Kenneth Bellando jumped to his death, Bloomberg reports that the former CEO of Dutch Bank ABN Amro (and his wife and daughter) were found dead at their home after a possible "family tragedy." This expands the dismal list of senior financial services executive deaths to 12 in the last few months. The 57-year-old Jan Peter Schmittmann, was reportedly discovered by his other daughter when she arrived home that morning.Police declined to comment on the cirumstances of his (and his wife and daughter's) death.
                          And another. How many coincidences do we need before we can call it something else?

                          A Liechtenstein banker was shot dead after a feud involving an investment fund, and police said they believe the alleged killer later committed suicide. The 48-year-old man was shot in the underground garage of a financial institution in Balzers at 7:30 a.m. local time, the police said on its website today. Neither the victim nor the institution were identified in the statement. The deceased was Juergen Frick, CEO of Bank Frick & Co. AG, according to Switzerland’s Radio 1, which cited employees of his bank.

                          http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-07/liechtenstein-police-says-48-year-old-man-killed-in-bank-garage.html

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                          • #43
                            Re: Four banker suicides within a week - A sign, or mere coincidence?

                            Like what, Woodsman, a narrative pieced together using possibly random, unrelated events? Edit: I've previously pointed out that half of the people on the list weren't bankers. Now I see that suicides and murders are being grouped together into one grand narrative.
                            Last edited by Slimprofits; April 07, 2014, 01:29 PM.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Four banker suicides within a week - A sign, or mere coincidence?

                              CEO Of Liechtenstein Bank Frick Murdered In Broad Daylight



                              Over the weekend the world was gripped by the drama surrounding the mysterious murder-homicide of the former CEO of Dutch bank ABN Amro and members of his family, and whether there is more foul play than meets the eye. However, that is nothing compared to what just happened in the tiny, and all too quiet Principality of Lichtenstein, where moments ago the CEO of local financial institution Bank Frick & Co. AG, Juergen Frick, was shot dead in the underground garage of the bank located in the city of Balzers.


                              changing the narratives?

                              Up until now it was mostly banker suicides. With the first open bank CEO murder, one wonders if there will be a change in the pattern.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Four banker suicides within a week - A sign, or mere coincidence?

                                Murdered Liechtenstein Bank Chief Had Sued Suspect for Extortion http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...extortion.html

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