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    Dr. Peter Morici: An Emergency Interest Rate Cut? and The Week Ahead: Forecasts for the Weeks of November 26 and December 3 (preliminary)

    On Nov. 20, stock markets were lifted on speculation that Ben Bernanke will call an emergency meeting at the Federal Reserve to further cut interest rates. This would be a remarkable turnaround for Chairman Bernanke.

    On October 31, the Fed cut the federal funds rate a quarter point to 4.50% but essentially said that it would not likely cut rates further. The Open Market Committee stated: The Committee judges that, after this action, the upside risks to inflation roughly balance the downside risks to growth.

    Since that time, virtually all the economic news has been bad. Wall Street firms are taking mega write downs on subprime debt, the stock market has tanked, retail and housing sales are in the sink, commercial real estate values are falling, and industrial production is contracting.

    It seems the Fed is under pressure every few weeks to change course on policy. After telling us the subprime crisis was under control, both Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson gave speeches on October 15 and 16, explaining why exceptional action would now be required to rework adjustable rate mortgages, reestablish mortgage markets, and ensure general liquidity for the conduct of business.

    Which is it Ben: Are we in trouble or aren't we?

    We are!

    The economy is delicately walking along a precipice between much slower growth and a tough recession. If the housing adjustment turns into a rout, it will be too late for the Fed to cut interest rates enough to save the economy from a bad episode of stagflation -- rising unemployment caused by evaporating household wealth and oil driven inflation.

    Yet, the Fed seems at sixes and sevens on all this for four reasons:

    First, the Fed has failed to grasp how the damage in the subprime market to the balance sheets of Citigroup, Merrill Lynch and others have damaged fundamental confidence in Washington's economic management and undermined the resiliency of the U.S. economy.

    We have been suffering a crisis of confidence for many weeks, and the Fed doesn't get it. If it did, the Fed would not have precluded further action in its October 31 statement.

    Second, unlike the European Central Bank, Fed policymaking primarily focuses on short-term interest rates and not money supply management. In large measure, the U.S. dollar's international status as the reserve currency -- other central banks use dollar holdings to back up their currencies -- makes both the supply of U.S. money and its impact on inflation unstable and difficult to manage.

    The practical problem is that money is liquidity, and important segments of the U.S. economy are suffering from a liquidity crisis.

    Third, the Treasury and Fed have failed to come to terms with the impact of China on U.S. monetary policy. China's policy of undervaluing the yuan and buying massive amounts of dollars and securities, to keep down the prices of yuan and its exports on U.S. store shelves, has significantly unhinged U.S. short-term interest rates from U.S. mortgage and other long-term rates.

    Fourth, the Treasury and Fed have failed to come to terms with the corrosive consequences on bond, mortgage and wider credit markets of self dealing at Standard and Poor's and other bond rating agencies. No one is going to buy many private U.S. securities as long as rating agencies are paid by Wall Street bankers who appear able to manipulate the process.


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    Re: Dr. Peter Morici: An Emergency Interest Rate Cut?

    I don't know Peter Morici but:

    Originally posted by Peter Morici
    If the housing adjustment turns into a rout, it will be too late for the Fed to cut interest rates enough to save the economy from a bad episode of stagflation -- rising unemployment caused by evaporating household wealth and oil driven inflation.
    Great so if the real estate bubble is about to burst we have to print more money to create another bubble. It seems he does not know the problem from the solution.

    Originally posted by Peter Morici
    First, the Fed has failed to grasp how the damage in the subprime market to the balance sheets of Citigroup, Merrill Lynch and others have damaged fundamental confidence in Washington's economic management and undermined the resiliency of the U.S. economy.
    Sorry but baloney. Washington's economic management?
    Who exactly lowered interest rates? Who refused to investigate the excesses in mortgage lending?

    Not damage in confidence in Washington's economic management but damage in confidence in banks, for it was banks and other financial institutions that supposedly miscalculated, intentionally or not, the risk profiles of CDO's. No, damage in confidence in Washington's economic management will only come when holders of CDO's get shortchanged due to protective policies.

    Originally posted by Peter Morici
    China's policy of undervaluing the yuan and buying massive amounts of dollars and securities, to keep down the prices of yuan and its exports on U.S. store shelves, has significantly unhinged U.S. short-term interest rates from U.S. mortgage and other long-term rates.
    What on earth is he talking about?

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      Re: Dr. Peter Morici: An Emergency Interest Rate Cut?

      Tulpen -

      I think there are two camps or schools of thought regarding any attempt to prop up all the rotting credit instruments.

      School #1 takes a purist view (lots of Libertarians in this group) thinking that government applying what's essentially public money (or it's sad contemporary equivalent, which is the debasement of public money) to prop up tons of bad bets in structured finance is applying more of the same poison which caused the problems in the first place.

      School # 2 take the approach which is perhaps overly dignified by the name 'pragmatist' which says 'hey look, even if doing nothing and letting all bad bets fail and be liquidated in a process of mark to market is the correct course in ideal terms, if you take that course you are actually being quite risky and experimental as to the eventual outcome'. Their rationale is that you can't take a purist approach to a runaway process. You have to keep a wary eye on events snowballing, and to employ an 'ethics' approach is foolhardy government because you are laying yourself open to get suckerpunched by Great Depression #2, which serves absolutely no good purpose.

      The school #2 have a bad rep, because they are proposing 'intervention' and the more widely percieved wisdom (in communities such as this one - because the general public apparently doesn't even care about the principles of the issue) is that you can't cure the problem with more liquidity. However if you don't apply the firehoses you are essentially saying 'let's let Rome burn and see how we like it later', which is the antithesis of what any form of responsible government should do.

      It's a paradox, because government is called upon to design pragmatic solutions to minimize harm from past mistakes. You can only take choices which avoid plunging off a cliff immediately, while you look for further avenues out of the predicament. That is to say, 'buying time' in an emergency is an entirely legitimate tactic.

      FWIW, and I'm one of the least qualified here to venture an opinion on matters of structured finance, I'm with the pragmatists, rather than the purists. Intervention is necessary at this time.
      Last edited by Contemptuous; December 01, 2007, 03:12 PM.

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        Re: Dr. Peter Morici: An Emergency Interest Rate Cut?

        Originally posted by Lukester
        because government is called upon to design pragmatic solutions to minimize harm from past mistakes
        Lukester,

        Watch out, you're betraying idealist roots with this statement.

        My own views are more along the lines of Ambrose Bierce's "Devil's Dictionary"


        POLITICS, n.
        A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage.
        POLITICIAN, n.
        An eel in the fundamental mud upon which the superstructure of organized society is reared. When we wriggles he mistakes the agitation of his tail for the trembling of the edifice. As compared with the statesman, he suffers the disadvantage of being alive.
        I'm all for helping certain of the disadvantaged!

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          Re: Dr. Peter Morici: An Emergency Interest Rate Cut?

          C1ue -

          When the schoolbus with "USA citizenry" stencilled on the side is careening off the road shoulder within inches of taking a flyer right off the cliff, one is not placing one's faith for any kind of future upon Ambrose Bierce's admittedly admirable subtleties.

          One is either looking for the emergency brake, looking for a parachute, or looking for the exit door, because subtle distinctions or not, we happen to be locked inside the same bus as the "eels in the mud" that are about to get their just deserts.

          You, I, and all those worthwhile citizens (the great majority) who had no part of all the spendthrift foolery, are locked in that bus too, and will do a face-plant with all the "eels" when we all land - and land hard together we certainly would.

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          • #6
            Re: Dr. Peter Morici: An Emergency Interest Rate Cut?

            Lukester, you make it appear as if the fed is able to either solve or soften the problem of bad debts. How do you reason that will happen by lowering interest rates.

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              Re: Dr. Peter Morici: An Emergency Interest Rate Cut?

              Tulpen -

              That is not actually what I suggested . What I limited myself to observing was that although we may have no idea if FED interest rate moves will succeed to soften the blow, it's of doubtful wisdom to suggest the FED should not at least try as best they can.

              Here is a clear reference on the rationale for intervention to soften the impact of this credit crunch, describing the distinction between purist and pragmatic viewpoints in the present predicament :

              http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...1332#post21332
              Last edited by Contemptuous; December 02, 2007, 03:12 PM.

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              • #8
                Re: Dr. Peter Morici: An Emergency Interest Rate Cut?

                Originally posted by Lukester
                You, I, and all those worthwhile citizens (the great majority) who had no part of all the spendthrift foolery, are locked in that bus too, and will do a face-plant with all the "eels" when we all land - and land hard together we certainly would.
                Lukester,

                Who's this we?

                I've spent my last 4 years shifting into 'global citizen' mode including quitting my salaried job 1 year ago.

                I live in the US by choice and habit, but I am 100% liquid and can shift (have shifted) assets out in 3 days.

                My main hard assets I'd probably have to leave behind are my 2 Audis.

                My first 6 years as a naive believer in the American way, I bought the line.

                Then I got introduced into the real world of corporate gamesmanship, and from there extrapolated the government/financial gamesmanship.

                I honestly don't want the bus to flip off the cliff - most of my family and friends are in the US after all - but I strongly believe that this is going to happen anyway.

                So if the event occurs, I'm already at the exit with my parachute on.

                If not, I'll fall back on the businesses I've created/am creating.

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                  Re: Dr. Peter Morici: An Emergency Interest Rate Cut?

                  C1ue -

                  "We ecompasses those you are willing (or able) to consider with the same regard and concern you reserve for yourself. For some people "we" is a narrow state of one, with possible exceptions for immediate family and one or two closest friends. For other people "we" may be extended to a general concern for perhaps a modestly larger subsection of people, or even one's country.

                  You are enumerating a lot of "I" factors, all of which are grounds certainly for congratulating yourself on your foresight, although the range of concern expressed for the country you grew up in and which provided you with a education may seem a little narrow.

                  Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                  Who's this we?

                  I've spent my last 4 years shifting into 'global citizen' mode including quitting my salaried job 1 year ago. - I honestly don't want the bus to flip off the cliff - most of my family and friends are in the US after all - but I strongly believe that this is going to happen anyway. - So if the event occurs, I'm already at the exit with my parachute on. - If not, I'll fall back on the businesses I've created/am creating.
                  Last edited by Contemptuous; December 02, 2007, 10:31 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Dr. Peter Morici: An Emergency Interest Rate Cut?

                    Originally posted by Lukester
                    You are enumerating a lot of "I" factors, all of which are grounds certainly for congratulating yourself on your foresight, although the range of concern expressed for the country you grew up in and which provided you with a education may seem a little narrow.
                    Give me the power, and I'll fix all the problems ;)

                    Seriously, I don't see why I need to do a 'Picken's charge' on an A bomb into the ground in order to show my gratitude to my country.

                    I've done all I can do informing (and continuing to inform) ALL those around me on my opinions on what is going to happen - and what these opinions are based on.

                    Despite my spotless track record starting with the banks in 1990, through to the 1987 crash, on to Y2K, and now on real estate - most continue to think I'm a negativist survivalist-to-be.

                    Fortunately I could give a crap.

                    I continue to ring the bell, while simultaneously ensuring that the stupidity, greed, and state of denial of others won't affect what I personally can control - and ultimately that's me!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Dr. Peter Morici: An Emergency Interest Rate Cut?

                      cut, cut, cut.
                      Given Bernanke's rep I thought he would have cut much more already.


                      http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...1000#post21000

                      http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...0592#post20592

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