Comments on Livionex Dental Gel (Toothpaste)

[Rajiv]

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Tanks for the update. I hope that you dentist and hygienist have signed on to our website and asked for professional access.

[Rajiv]

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Thanks for the kind words Shiny!

[Rajiv]

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Astonas, if you go to the Livionex Library, and click on the Studies section, you will see Study 3 on remineralization.

Any time you eat, the acids in the food will demineralize the teeth. The amount of edathamil we have in a single generous size brushing has the chelation capacity of 1/5th that of a can of coke, 1/20th that of a 10 oz glass of lemonade. This is the reason that saliva is super saturated with calcium phosphate. They help remineralize the teeth after every acid challenge, and these occur every time that we eat or drink.

The formation constants of edathamil are easily available on the web. It is a very commonly used chelator, and is used widely in the food industry.

[Rajiv]

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I have had marketing extend the life of the "ITULIP10" discount code till the 15th of the month. Use the coupon code to get a 10% discount

[shiny!]

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I have had marketing extend the life of the "ITULIP10" discount code till the 15th of the month. Use the coupon code to get a 10% discount

Thanks, Rajiv! Perfect timing. I noticed last night that I need to place another order soon.

[pianodoctor]

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I'm now getting close to running out of the multi-tube supply of Livionex I had bought. I was pretty rigorous about my hygiene before trying Livionex. I am almost 60 and my hygienist said I "have the gums of a 14 year old", possibly the best compliment ever, LOL. Therefore I really can't judge the product in terms of effectiveness since I was doing pretty well to begin with, but I take the scientific explanation on faith.

But I will comment on two negatives. The first is price. I don't think that requires a lot of elaboration. I'll just say I'm a blue collar person, and the price is very, very high to me. The second is the packaging. Unpredictably, sometimes the gel comes out in an uncontrolled fashion and it's like watching dollars going down the drain because it's so expensive and there's so little product in a big tube.

[aaron]

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I bought a whole bunch at once. It says to use a pea size, and that is 1/3 what I would use with "normal" toothpaste. In a way, it works out to about the same price as the good Colgate tube. But, I get you... I saw my kid spraying dollars all over the bathroom sink; right after I said to use a pea size and do not squeeze too hard.

My trip to the dentist went like others have commented on. Good results.
You know when they do that gum test to see how deep the pocket/gap... I went from 3s & 4s to 1s and 2s. I seriously think they were disappointed ---> you can get the insurance companies to cough up cash when the gum pockets get deep.

[lektrode]

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..... ---> you can get the insurance companies to cough up cash when the gum pockets get deep.

which kind - med or dent ?

[flintlock]

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Then you're missing out. This stuff is absolutely amazing. It has made a huge improvement in my dental health. It actually dissolves built up tartar without using any harmful chemicals. A little goes a long way so a tube lasts a good long while.

I was just half joking, but actually it may be Livionex that is missing out. People use reviews and the convenience of Amazon to buy lots of ordinary household items these days. If its as good as it sounds seems selling the product on a massive scale through Amazon could be very profitable. No offense, but some people are wary of buying online from random websites. I understand this may be a marketing decision on their part to sell direct.

[shiny!]

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I was just half joking, but actually it may be Livionex that is missing out. People use reviews and the convenience of Amazon to buy lots of ordinary household items these days. If its as good as it sounds seems selling the product on a massive scale through Amazon could be very profitable. No offense, but some people are wary of buying online from random websites. I understand this may be a marketing decision on their part to sell direct.

I hear what you're saying. If you're comfortable using a CC thru Paypal they do accept that.

[Verrocchio]

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I can add to the positive comments about Livionex, specifically praise from my dental hygienist and dentist at checkup. However, I like to have a mug or two of coffee or tea, usually tea, each morning, and within a few weeks of my appointment with the dental hygienist, my teeth became stained. Switching back to Colgate whitened my teeth, but I was no longer getting the Livionex effect. I'm now thinking of alternating between Livionex and Colgate. Anyone else have a similar experience?

[Chomsky]

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I can add to the positive comments about Livionex, specifically praise from my dental hygienist and dentist at checkup. However, I like to have a mug or two of coffee or tea, usually tea, each morning, and within a few weeks of my appointment with the dental hygienist, my teeth became stained. Switching back to Colgate whitened my teeth, but I was no longer getting the Livionex effect. I'm now thinking of alternating between Livionex and Colgate. Anyone else have a similar experience?

Yes. I deal with it this way:

I brush twice daily. Every other day, I substitute a "regular" toothpaste for Livionex for one brushing. So, three out of every four times I brush, I do so with Livionex, and the other time with Colgate or another brand. I sometimes even do a half-Livionex, half-Colgate mix for that one brushing. Result: no stains!

[Rajiv]

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This happens in a small proportion of users. This is because we remove the dental plaque, which is a biofilm, and not the pellicle, which is a protein layer that is deposited from the Saliva. This layer is generally considered to be protective to teeth. However, the pellicle tends to stain much more readily than does dental plaque. The pellicle can be removed by using a normal toothpaste that contains abrasives, or by any other mild abrasive.

I am working on some modification to the gel, without the addition of any abrasives, that I hope will take care of the issue.

[Verrocchio]

Re: Comments on Livionex Dental Gel (Toothpaste)

This happens in a small proportion of users. This is because we remove the dental plaque, which is a biofilm, and not the pellicle, which is a protein layer that is deposited from the Saliva. This layer is generally considered to be protective to teeth. However, the pellicle tends to stain much more readily than does dental plaque. The pellicle can be removed by using a normal toothpaste that contains abrasives, or by any other mild abrasive.

I am working on some modification to the gel, without the addition of any abrasives, that I hope will take care of the issue.

Thanks for the update, Rajiv. Hope your modification is effective, and keep us posted on how well it works. To add to my story, I had anticipated that my hygienist would be interested and brought with me a tube of L, nearly used up. She was quite pleased and called the dentist over to have a look.

[astonas]

Re: Comments on Livionex Dental Gel (Toothpaste)

Astonas, if you go to the Livionex Library, and click on the Studies section, you will see Study 3 on remineralization.

Any time you eat, the acids in the food will demineralize the teeth. The amount of edathamil we have in a single generous size brushing has the chelation capacity of 1/5th that of a can of coke, 1/20th that of a 10 oz glass of lemonade. This is the reason that saliva is super saturated with calcium phosphate. They help remineralize the teeth after every acid challenge, and these occur every time that we eat or drink.

The formation constants of edathamil are easily available on the web. It is a very commonly used chelator, and is used widely in the food industry.

Thanks, Rajiv, but the above doesn't appear to relate to my concerns. I understand that Livionex is great for one's teeth, and is generally fine if swallowed in small doses. I was referring to cumulative toxicity on the rest of the body if edathamil or its salts are absorbed into the bloodstream through the mouth's mucus membranes. Are you aware of any long-term animal model studies at low doses?

To be clear: I fully understand that you are not creating exposures comparable to those causing renal damage in the journal article I linked. I was wondering specifically about very long term, cumulative effects due to repeated exposure at very low doses.