F.a.o :- ej

[Mega]

Eric:-
http://green.autoblog.com/2013/11/26...track-w-video/
Mike

[EJ]

Re: F.a.o :- ej

Eric:-
http://green.autoblog.com/2013/11/26...track-w-video/
Mike

Nice toy for the kids.

The adults are riding these 0-60 3.3 second, 106 ft-pound torque, 150+ mile range electrics.

The private equity investor who bet on Richard Walker to run Zero is going to make money for investors.

It's all about management.

For Yamaha the CEO has to run a massive business of which motorcycles are a small division. Kudos for at least recognizing electric motorcycles as competition. Too little, too late, however to compete.

The time to market buy vs build decision will be a buy for Yamaha and a half dozen others and this will make Zero's investors a great deal of money and even more if the company goes public.

[Mega]

Re: F.a.o :- ej

Good evening Eric
You are wrong!.............
Its not often I can say that to you but I feel very strongly you miss-understand what is happening here.

Companies like Tessla & this start up might look sexy but the nano-second they create an large enough market they are toast, dust, history.

Mainstream manufactures are not blind to electric power, they are spending MEGA money on it. They will hire the best brains, no cost worries at all…the start up (Up Starts) will be crushed…..Yamaha will spend more pencils for the office a year than they can afford on R+D.

I say 3-5 years & they be gone……….
Mike

[EJ]

Re: F.a.o :- ej

Good evening Eric
You are wrong!.............
Its not often I can say that to you but I feel very strongly you miss-understand what is happening here.

Companies like Tessla & this start up might look sexy but the nano-second they create an large enough market they are toast, dust, history.

Mainstream manufactures are not blind to electric power, they are spending MEGA money on it. They will hire the best brains, no cost worries at all…the start up (Up Starts) will be crushed…..Yamaha will spend more pencils for the office a year than they can afford on R+D.

I say 3-5 years & they be gone……….
Mike

If that were true then Google, Apple, Microsoft, Cisco, etc., could have developed all of the technology they ever needed without ever acquiring start-up companies.

That fallacy is that large companies because they are large have unlimited resources. Not so. Large companies have 100% of resources tied up in projects to compete with other large companies and have virtually no resources to spare to experiment with new concepts especially when the resulting new products will replace existing ones at a lower price, lower volumes, lower margins, or all three.

Yamaha is 100% occupied competing with Honda and other direct ICE competitors. They have the resources to build concept electrics but commercialization is another matter. It's harder than it looks.

It has taken Zero with considerable financial resources and laser focus for eight years to develop the technology to this level and there were many bumps along the way. In distant second place is Brammo and that's the whole field of production pure electric motorcycles.

Zero will either be acquired or go public, or go public and then be acquired.

[BK]

Re: F.a.o :- ej

Eric,
I think many folks don't get how R&D budgets pof giant companies generally produce little in new technology, the innovation happens at a big company when they acquire small companies like zero - who have proved commercialization of a new technology and figured out the biggest problems.
regards.

[lektrode]

Re: F.a.o :- ej

Eric,
I think many folks don't get how R&D budgets pof giant companies generally produce little in new technology, the innovation happens at a big company when they acquire small companies like zero - who have proved commercialization of a new technology and figured out the biggest problems.
regards.

precisely.
this seems lost on most of the 'free trade' discussion as well.

[Mega]

Re: F.a.o :- ej

Hey, Ok its your Ass EJ..............
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/mo...ray-sports-car

[Polish_Silver]

Re: F.a.o :- ej

If that were true then Google, Apple, Microsoft, Cisco, etc., could have developed all of the technology they ever needed without ever acquiring start-up companies.

That fallacy is that large companies because they are large have unlimited resources. Not so. Large companies have 100% of resources tied up in projects to compete with other large companies and have virtually no resources to spare to experiment with new concepts especially when the resulting new products will replace existing ones at a lower price, lower volumes, lower margins, or all three.

Yamaha is 100% occupied competing with Honda and other direct ICE competitors. They have the resources to build concept electrics but commercialization is another matter. It's harder than it looks.

It has taken Zero with considerable financial resources and laser focus for eight years to develop the technology to this level and there were many bumps along the way. In distant second place is Brammo and that's the whole field of production pure electric motorcycles.

Zero will either be acquired or go public, or go public and then be acquired.

I agree, but I think "bureaucratic inertia" is also a major factor preventing big companies from innovating--and this is what makes small companies work.

[Polish_Silver]

Goliath paying David big $$

Good evening Eric
You are wrong!.............
Its not often I can say that to you but I feel very strongly you miss-understand what is happening here.

Companies like Tessla & this start up might look sexy but the nano-second they create an large enough market they are toast, dust, history.

Mainstream manufactures are not blind to electric power, they are spending MEGA money on it. They will hire the best brains, no cost worries at all…the start up (Up Starts) will be crushed…..Yamaha will spend more pencils for the office a year than they can afford on R+D.

I say 3-5 years & they be gone……….
Mike

It all depends on the situation. I worked at a small Si valley company that had developed a very good DDS technology. HP called up and said they wanted to license it. They said they could develop it, but it would take two years, and they did not want to wait because competitors would get too much market share. So they reached an agreement and HP was paying royalties to this 50 person company to get technology.

[vt]

Re: Goliath paying David big $$

http://www.wsj.com/articles/electric...kes-1467903039