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    Signs and Wonders: How To Tell When Hard Times Are Here

    Why a signpost for hard times?

    Throughout history, the inclination of all leaders everywhere is not to tell you the bad news. You know how it is: the folks who guaranteed you of a chicken in every pot, a war to end all wars, a land of plenty, a war to make democracy safe, a global war on terror, a thousand points of light, no child left behind, a kinder gentler nation, family values, compassionate conservatism, a new prosperity, a new American Empire, or an old stinky empire… these gentlemen do not like it when the facts fail to line up with the rhetoric. Or, to be more accurate, they do not like it when, due to the importune intrusion of reality, those who rent life by their labor start to notice the difference between promise and propaganda.

    Bad news leads to bad views, and bad views lead to a surliness in the general population that eventually undermines the legitimacy of the status quo. Leaders do not like that.

    So whether it’s global climate chaos, peak oil, the meltdown of a nuclear power reactor core, currency collapse or the fact that the Titanic Ship of State has struck an iceberg and is sinking, the economy and steerage class passengers will always be the last to be told. This, then, is your guidebook to the Signs and Wonders that will confirm what you suspect when everyone denies it.

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    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie."
    -- Joseph Goebbels



    We're sure not in Kansas anymore, Toto... ;)

    I firmly believe that there is nothing in human history to compare with the next 5-10 years, and there are more than a few bright spots too.
    http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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    • #3
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      Bart -

      Tell us what you see coming. Please just sketch it out. I think a lot of us would have a good deal of interest to get a glimpse of your synthesis, as informed by all the hard data you compile.

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        Re: Signs and Wonders: How To Tell When Hard Times Are Here

        Originally posted by Lukester View Post
        Bart -
        Tell us what you see coming. Please just sketch it out. I think a lot of us would have a good deal of interest to get a glimpse of your synthesis, as informed by all the hard data you compile.
        It's actually pretty close to what EJ and Fred have talked about, although some of the (possible or probable) darker aspects are things I prefer not to talk about. If you know much about what the Mormons do as a "just in case" practice, that covers a key issue. The ideas and plans and hopes of folk like Ron Paul are also very key.

        Ka-poom and the F.I.R.E economy live... just like Frodo... ;) ... and it has been foolish to bet against humanity and human progress over the centuries, even though there have been some *very* poor showings.
        My biggest concern is the general 1984 scenario... and frankly the "jury" is still out in my opinion - it's still a plausible scenario, given the current view into my cloudy longer term crystal ball.

        Before the current hard asset cycle is over, I expect $3500+ gold, $125+ silver, a 3000 CPI+lies adjusted Dow and some major social "issues", world wide.

        The S will unquestionably HTF over the next 5-10 years, and *way* more than once too... and by far the most important asset to have is good friends and family and neighbors.
        http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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          Fitting lyrics methinks that describe this era, the certainty we're leaving, and the unknown future:

          I'm gonna make you bend and break
          (It sends you to me without wait)
          Say a prayer but let the good times roll

          Incase God doesn't show
          (Let the good times roll, let the good times roll)
          And I want these words to make things right
          But it's the wrongs that make the words come to life
          "Who does he think he is?"
          If that's the worst you got
          Better put your fingers back to the keys

          Been looking forward to the future
          But my eyesight is going bad
          And this crystal ball
          It's always cloudy except for
          When you look into the past (look into the past)
          One night stand (one night stand off)


          One night and one more time
          Thanks for the memories
          Even though they weren't so great...

          -"Thanks for the Memories" by Fall Out Boy

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            Bart -

            << If you know much about what the Mormons do as a "just in case" practice, that covers a key issue. >>

            I have no idea what this means, but it sounds macabre. That bad, huh?

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              Re: Signs and Wonders: How To Tell When Hard Times Are Here

              Originally posted by Lukester View Post
              Bart -

              << If you know much about what the Mormons do as a "just in case" practice, that covers a key issue. >>

              I have no idea what this means, but it sounds macabre. That bad, huh?
              Sorry - thought it was well known.

              Most Mormons have a policy of having a years worth of supplies and food on hand, in case of unexpected events.

              I don't think it's macabre - many California folk have earthquake supplies to tide them over as a prudent move, and the Mormons had a *very* tough time in the 1800s.
              http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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                Originally posted by bart View Post
                Sorry - thought it was well known.

                Most Mormons have a policy of having a years worth of supplies and food on hand, in case of unexpected events.

                I don't think it's macabre - many California folk have earthquake supplies to tide them over as a prudent move, and the Mormons had a *very* tough time in the 1800s.
                Well, the way you phrased it made it sound more like they had an armed militia or something

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                  Originally posted by rj1 View Post
                  Well, the way you phrased it made it sound more like they had an armed militia or something
                  I actually don't know, but I suspect as a group that Mormons own guns more frequently than most other groups.
                  http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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                    Stocking up on grub, huh? ... Somehow I'm sitting here mesmerized by the gilded vision of $3500 gold. Somebody slap me, I'm sitting here in a slack-jawed, vacant eyed stupor ... ( forget the grub, jeez, did he really say $3500 gold?? :eek: ) Who needs to eat???

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                    • #11
                      Re: Signs and Wonders: How To Tell When Hard Times Are Here

                      Originally posted by Lukester View Post

                      Stocking up on grub, huh? ... Somehow I'm sitting here mesmerized by the gilded vision of $3500 gold. Somebody slap me, I'm sitting here in a slack-jawed, vacant eyed stupor ... ( forget the grub, jeez, did he really say $3500 gold?? :eek: ) Who needs to eat???
                      I've always had extra grub on hand. I don't have to shop as often and I'm not big on shopping, plus the variety is great, etc. No worries, I don't have a warehouse full of MRE's. ;)

                      On $3500 gold though, don't ask what an oil change or dinner, etc. will cost... and do recall what happened from 1982-2000 to the Nasdaq, etc. too.
                      http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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                        Re: Signs and Wonders: How To Tell When Hard Times Are Here

                        Bart -

                        Lest I be misunderstood: I was doing a send-up of the greed obsessed American who does not give a shit if the entire municipality is going straight to hell as long as he gets his $3500 gold.

                        Gold = $3500.00

                        Starbucks coffee sans whipped cream = $25.00 USD paper (20% discount if you got coins)

                        Meal for two at a suave restaurant (no wine) = $1,500 USD paper

                        Medical care = Put your arm on this block so we can saw it off.

                        Medical care = Put your leg on this block so we can saw it off too.

                        Travel plans = Forget it.

                        Rent = Tighten your belt, 'cause you ain't gonna be eatin' much.

                        Home owners = Shunned at public gatherings

                        Bank account = Rusty tin box buried in a damp hole in one's garden at midnight

                        Passport = Ankle bracelet from HS with e-tag and exploding bolt in case it's improperly unlocked

                        Prospects = Something to euthanize with a jug of cheap wine on a Friday night

                        Tears = Sentimental indulgences for people who have assured their survival

                        Fourth of July = Government Sponsored


                        etc.
                        Last edited by Contemptuous; November 26, 2007, 09:28 PM.

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                          Re: Signs and Wonders: How To Tell When Hard Times Are Here

                          Originally posted by Lukester View Post
                          Bart -

                          Lest I be misunderstood: I was doing a send-up of the greed obsessed American who does not give a shit if the entire municipality is going straight to hell as long as he gets his $3500 gold.
                          Yep, I was almost certain you were but wanted to make sure that others reading my comments would have the context.

                          I don't think it'll get as bad as your figures... and it wouldn't surprise me if SBUX wasn't around in 10 years or so either.
                          http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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                            Re: Signs and Wonders: How To Tell When Hard Times Are Here

                            Originally posted by bart View Post
                            Sorry - thought it was well known.

                            Most Mormons have a policy of having a years worth of supplies and food on hand, in case of unexpected events.

                            I don't think it's macabre - many California folk have earthquake supplies to tide them over as a prudent move, and the Mormons had a *very* tough time in the 1800s.

                            http://www.nitro-pak.com/index.php?cPath=147

                            For anyone out there in the apocalypse soon cohort... :eek:

                            (Gotta looove those freeze dried ice cream bars. What could be better than watching the-world-as-we-know-it come to an end while munching on chocolate wafers with vanilla filling? )

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