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    In late August a patent was published that covered a “personal aircraft.” This would be unremarkable except for one thing: one of the drawings showed the aircraft parked in what could be a grocery store parking lot, in a space between two cars.

    The patent — which we are first to report — among others, is assigned to Zee.Aero, a stealth company in Mountain View, and the drawings show this is no ordinary personal craft. This is a flying car.

    There have been stabs at a Jetson-mobile before, but two designs in the Zee.Aero patent put this one on the outer cutting edge: It would be battery powered. But in addition, it is designed to lift straight up like a helicopter — so no need for a runway. Then, as the patent notes, the collection of rotors on top work with two facing backward to allow it to hover for a bit before cruising off to that grocery store.

    We are also hearing from sources that Google is involved, but in what capacity is unclear. However, Zee.Aero’s offices are near Shoreline Lake in Mountain View, according to the job postings. The company operates a barebones website — just three brief pages and there’s no address, phone number, e-mail or contact form.

    But as you may have guessed, near Shoreline Lake is also where you’ll find the sprawling Googleplex — and not far from there, Google X, the super-secret facility that gave rise to self driving cars, Internet balloons and Google Glass. Sebastian Thrun, who helped start Google X and led the driverless car effort, has said he sees the majority of people using flying cars by 2040 — though those sorts of starry predictions are a dime a dozen.

    Zee.Aero’s jobs postings list 11 open positions with notably lavish benefits, all in mechanical and aeronautical engineering. A search of LinkedIn for those listing Zee.Aero as their employer reveals 52 people, only three of whom aren’t in technical positions. Zee.Aero was founded in 2010, according to Delaware corporation records, and Ilan Kroo, a noted professor of aeronautics, has been on partial leave from Stanford since 2011 to run the company. He holds the aforementioned patent, among others, and has worked for NASA. (I’ve also reached out to him via Stanford.)

    The reason I point out all the engineering and technical staff is that there’s really no way to build a stealth hardware company this large without some eye toward sales and marketing — unless you have a generous (and gigantic) financial backer that lets you focus on research and not worry about revenue.

    Do keep in mind that patent drawings rarely look exactly like the final product and Zee.Aero has filed a handful over the past couple years. To get a sense of what’s cooking, we should probably take the average of all the drawings, and mix in a little more imagination.

    A side question for now is where Zee.Aero might get that sort of battery power. Electric car maker Tesla certainly has made waves recently with its willingness to license its technology.

    Either way, another bit of the future is apparently closer to taking flight out of Mountain View.
    [Update: I received the following email from Dr Kroo at 3:32 PM PST]

    Thanks for your interest and note this morning. As you gathered, I am working on some interesting transportation ideas at an early stage start-up company in Mt. View (near Google and other tech companies, but not affiliated with them). The company is in its early stages — still in stealth mode — and we have not been talking to people about our plans quite yet. I’ll look forward to talking with you when things are a bit further along.

    I followed up by asking, since the wording wasn’t quite clear “Does that mean Zee.Aero is not affiliated with Google or you yourself are not affiliated with Google, or neither you nor Zee.Aero have an affiliation with Google?” and will let you know when I hear back. This is the unfortunate part of statements over email.





    http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/201...ro/#18174101=0

  • #2
    Re: At Last - A Flying Car

    At last?

    I saw one of these being flight and road demonstrated at EAA Oshkosh this past summer...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeQL-dUjlOg

    http://www.terrafugia.com/

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    • #3
      Re: At Last - A Flying Car

      Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
      At last?

      I saw one of these being flight and road demonstrated at EAA Oshkosh this past summer...
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeQL-dUjlOg

      http://www.terrafugia.com/

      Was Canada denied the Jetsons?

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      • #4
        Re: At Last - A Flying Car

        Originally posted by don View Post
        Was Canada denied the Jetsons?


        Yes. Our Safety Nazis thought it was a bad public influence for George and the family to be seen jetting around without wearing seat belts...

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        • #5
          Re: At Last - A Flying Car

          Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
          Yes. Our Safety Nazis thought it was a bad public influence for George and the family to be seen jetting around without wearing seat belts...

          the roots of Ford's Revenge . . .

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          • #6
            Re: At Last - A Flying Car

            I have always loved and admired the smaller forms of show business and entertainment that seem to be timeless, staying with us down through the generations.
            Things like

            jugglers and acrobats
            traveling carnivals
            roadside attractions (Snakes as big as your arm!!!)
            ...and of course, flying cars

            During my lifetime, the undisputed world champion of flying cars is the Moller Skycar; always plausible, and always just out of reach.


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            • #7
              Re: At Last - A Flying Car

              No, this really has to stop.
              I mean, even if we could technically build flying cars that everyone can buy, should we?
              Pilot texting while flying
              Another one
              Pilot texting a factor in deadly copter crash
              Think about the average driver and give him/her a flying car, while i start digging my bunker

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              • #8
                Re: At Last - A Flying Car

                Originally posted by sgominator View Post
                No, this really has to stop.
                I mean, even if we could technically build flying cars that everyone can buy, should we?
                Pilot texting while flying
                Another one
                Pilot texting a factor in deadly copter crash
                Think about the average driver and give him/her a flying car, while i start digging my bunker

                Another famous flying car was the Taylor Aerocar of the 1940s.
                It did actually fly; a handful were built and I think one still flies today.

                Fanboys claim that the FAA killed it for the reason you mention -that the general public could not be trusted to fly aircraft every day.







                The Taylor was a high powered, very small car that backed into an aircraft shell.
                The aviation parts folded into a trailer that the car could drag behind on the streets.
                You could leave the aviation parts at the airfield if you wanted and drive a pretty good road car.

                The concepts from Moller and Zee.aero seem more like road-capable aircraft than flyable cars -highly compromised as land vehicles, only barely able to drive around on the streets.

                The whole idea of flying cars seems to be the solution to a problem that does not exist.
                Airplanes are great, and cars are great.
                Why would anyone need a single machine that transforms from one into the other?
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                Last edited by thriftyandboringinohio; November 21, 2013, 06:59 PM.

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                • #9
                  Re: At Last - A Flying Car

                  Sooner or later, little Johnny is going to want to stick his fingers into the path of those blades to see if they tickle or throw the family cat into it to see if it will shave off the moggy's hair, or maybe drop his action-man figurine into it and have it flung out at high velocity destroying the prop and impaling the little old lady coming out of the supermarket.
                  In all seriousness, more power to them if they can get it to work. It certainly would open up the back country without a bunch of roads.

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                  • #10
                    Re: At Last - A Flying Car

                    If you had a practical flying car, and an off grid power supply, you could live almost anywhere you wanted to; goodbye nosy neighbors, zoning laws, and HOA's. But it would have to be capable of autonomous flight to be approved, and not only autonomous but programmed to intervene when the pilot went stupid. As an autonomous flying taxi I could see a viable market for it. Expensive at first, but worth it for some people, and then expanding the market as the price dropped.

                    I don't think actually driving on a road is important; the key is that it be VTOL, and safe to land anywhere and remain small enough to park.
                    "I love a dog, he does nothing for political reasons." --Will Rogers

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                    • #11
                      Re: At Last - A Flying Car

                      Originally posted by photon555 View Post
                      If you had a practical flying car, and an off grid power supply, you could live almost anywhere you wanted ....


                      Why not just buy one of these...






                      ...and carry these two things inside it?

                      Last edited by thriftyandboringinohio; November 22, 2013, 03:05 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Re: At Last - A Flying Car

                        I think Thrifty is on to it.

                        The Moller Skycar is the world's biggest joke in both sports aviation as well as investment scams.

                        That DH Beaver is one awesome classic plane.....like a Land Rover with wings

                        Down here we have the Martin Jet Pack.........actually had their prototype at a couple of events a company I own set up and ran a few years ago.

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                        • #13
                          Re: At Last - A Flying Car

                          Call me when I can get one of these



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