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    It's the reason for the collapse of democratic choice. It's the source of our growing disillusionment with politics. It's the great unmentionable. Corporate power. The media will scarcely whisper its name. It is howlingly absent from parliamentary debates. Until we name it and confront it, politics is a waste of time.

    The political role of business corporations is generally interpreted as that of lobbyists, seeking to influence government policy. In reality they belong on the inside. They are part of the nexus of power that creates policy. They face no significant resistance, from either government or opposition, as their interests have now been woven into the fabric of all three main political parties in Britain.

    Most of the scandals that leave people in despair about politics arise from this source. On Monday, for instance, the Guardian revealed that the government's subsidy system for gas-burning power stations is being designed by an executive from the Dublin-based company ESB International, who has been seconded into the Department of Energy. What does ESB do? Oh, it builds gas-burning power stations.

    On the same day we learned that a government minister, Nick Boles, has privately assured the gambling company Ladbrokes that it needn't worry about attempts by local authorities to stop the spread of betting shops. His new law will prevent councils from taking action.

    Last week we discovered that G4S's contract to run immigration removal centres will be expanded, even though all further business with the state was supposed to be frozen while allegations of fraud were investigated.

    Every week we learn that systemic failures on the part of government contractors are no barrier to obtaining further work, that the promise of efficiency, improvements and value for money delivered by outsourcing and privatisation have failed to materialise.

    The monitoring which was meant to keep these companies honest is haphazard, the penalties almost nonexistent, the rewards can be stupendous, dizzying, corrupting. Yet none of this deters the government. Since 2008, the outsourcing of public services has doubled, to £20bn. It is due to rise to £100bn by 2015.

    This policy becomes explicable only when you recognise where power really lies. The role of the self-hating state is to deliver itself to big business. In doing so it creates a tollbooth economy: a system of corporate turnpikes, operated by companies with effective monopolies.

    It's hardly surprising that the lobbying bill – now stalled by the House of Lords – offered almost no checks on the power of corporate lobbyists, while hog-tying the charities who criticise them. But it's not just that ministers are not discouraged from hobnobbing with corporate executives: they are now obliged to do so.

    Thanks to an initiative by Lord Green, large companies have ministerial "buddies", who have to meet them when the companies request it. There were 698 of these meetings during the first 18 months of the scheme, called by corporations these ministers are supposed be regulating. Lord Green, by the way, is currently a government trade minister. Before that he was chairman of HSBC, presiding over the bank while it laundered vast amounts of money stashed by Mexican drugs barons. Ministers, lobbyists – can you tell them apart?

    ….http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...rate-interests

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    Re: It's business that really rules us now

    America is not a country, it's a business

    from Killing Them Softly

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    • #3
      Re: It's business that really rules us now

      Originally posted by Thailandnotes View Post
      It's the reason for the collapse of democratic choice. It's the source of our growing disillusionment with politics. It's the great unmentionable. Corporate power. The media will scarcely whisper its name. It is howlingly absent from parliamentary debates. Until we name it and confront it, politics is a waste of time.
      . . .
      I was sure the article was about USA !.

      If some countries avoid this problem, how do they do so?

      My 2nd biggest complaint about obama care is that it strengthens the role of the insurance companies, which are at the heart of the perverse incentive structure that keeps health care so damned expensive in this country.

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      • #4
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        this is another reason why those who believe that big government is the answer are deluding themselves. perhaps if gov was fair and just and truly run in the interest of people and commonwealth then I would be right their with my leftie friends faith in big government, but the truth throughout history (sometimes to a greater or less degree but ALWAYS) is that power of governments are co-opted and used to facilitate the interests of a minority. Common sense is that no one can be trusted absolutely, everyone has a price, and most can be convinced of the "righteousness" of their corruption with enough sycophantic support (and God knows our narcissistic society has no shortage).

        we're talking bandaids and salve solutions for a corrupt system that must inevitability collapse under its own corrupt self-serving obesity

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          Originally posted by vinoveri View Post
          this is another reason why those who believe that big government is the answer are deluding themselves. perhaps if gov was fair and just and truly run in the interest of people and commonwealth then I would be right their with my leftie friends faith in big government, but the truth throughout history (sometimes to a greater or less degree but ALWAYS) is that power of governments are co-opted and used to facilitate the interests of a minority. Common sense is that no one can be trusted absolutely, everyone has a price, and most can be convinced of the "righteousness" of their corruption with enough sycophantic support (and God knows our narcissistic society has no shortage).

          we're talking bandaids and salve solutions for a corrupt system that must inevitability collapse under its own corrupt self-serving obesity
          I agree with that, and it seems to mean that you want a society with a diverse small power centers, rather than concentrations of wealth, income and political power in a few individuals or organizations.

          I miss the frontier. But there's no more land to be siezed from disadvantaged hunter gatherers.

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            Originally posted by Polish_Silver View Post
            I was sure the article was about USA !.

            If some countries avoid this problem, how do they do so?
            it sure started off sounding like it...
            and a BIG +1
            on that same question - altho i suspect that they DONT really avoid it and either just dont see it or are somehow bamboozled into believing its NOT happnin 'to their country' - same as some here in The US seem to think all sorts of malfeasances arent happnin 'in their state' - again, with the blue/dem-run states at the top of most of them - else they'd be SCREAMING for 'change we can believe in' - which is clearly NOT happnin in most/all the blue states - and hows that ole hall n oates song go ?

            ....Because the strong give up and move on
            While the weak, weak give up and stay
            ...

            My 2nd biggest complaint about obama care is that it strengthens the role of the insurance companies, which are at the heart of the perverse incentive structure that keeps health care so damned expensive in this country.
            and an even bigger +1
            to that one, esp - and being merely just another indication - to me - that most of em - along with most of TBTF,Inc are in fact dem-run operations. (right along with the auto/municipal-unions, also 'getting the goldmine' in 09, while main st got the shaft)

            else things might've been different 2008-10 (using my example of 'big oil' and the treatment they get from the lamestream media, vs the how the fin/ins-industrial complex is soft-gloved, leading to increased ad-revenues to support the lib-dominated editorial depts...)

            i also happen to have an answer to the fin/ins-industrial complex stranglehold on medical services

            hows that? (and only a few have even commented on this - either because the rest think i'm a moron or they AGREE with me ;)

            simple: by using the power (repurposing/reorienting some) of the.... TADA!!!

            .mil industrial complex
            to do an end-run around the bastards and setup 'FREE' WALKIN CLINICS,
            managed/run by the existing .mil framework, staffed by .mil enlisted personel - vs .gov unions (with their seniority-based buracratic deadweight-overhead sucking up likely near as much re$ource$ as being sucked-up by the med-ins-legal-drug mob - purportedly in the range of 400 BILLION/year - that not one GD dime of gets spent healing/treating We, The People - unless you want to say that their profits are 'treating' some of us, but then we'll get all ideological, or maybe that'd be idiotlogical ;)

            Originally posted by Polish_Silver View Post
            I agree with that, and it seems to mean that you want a society with a diverse small power centers, rather than concentrations of wealth, income and political power in a few individuals or organizations.

            I miss the frontier. But there's no more land to be siezed from disadvantaged hunter gatherers.
            hey - i have an answer to that too!

            ;)

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              Re: It's business that really rules us now

              VT, did you read the part where it said:

              "It's the reason for the collapse of democratic choice. It's the source of our growing disillusionment with politics. It's the great unmentionable. Corporate power. The media will scarcely whisper its name. It is howlingly absent from parliamentary debates. Until we name it and confront it, politics is a waste of time."

              How can government be run for fairly and with justice when the very concept of democratic choice has been closed out; if the choices are framed by the corporate power that owns the government? We get the government we create by our participation in it. How can it ever be responsive to the people if the people have no meaningful voice?

              And do you really believe people on the center left don't know about human nature, trust, corruption and how it occurs in and out of government? Come on, now.

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                Re: It's business that really rules us now

                10 Corporations Control Almost Everything You Buy — This Chart Shows How








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                http://www.policymic.com/articles/71255/10-corporations-control-almost-everything-you-buy-this-chart-shows-how


                The infographics understate the real truth by showing only retail goods and entertainment.
                For example, just two corporations own and operate 1/3 of the kidney dialysis centers in the US.

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                • #9
                  Re: It's business that really rules us now

                  Here's a cool little web tool, that maps connections between companies and their executives.

                  http://www.theyrule.net/

                  It's in the spirit of Mucketymap, which if you have never used it, is here http://news.muckety.com/

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                  • #10
                    media concentration

                    Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
                    10 Corporations Control Almost Everything You Buy — This Chart Shows How








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                    http://www.policymic.com/articles/71255/10-corporations-control-almost-everything-you-buy-this-chart-shows-how


                    The infographics understate the real truth by showing only retail goods and entertainment.
                    For example, just two corporations own and operate 1/3 of the kidney dialysis centers in the US.

                    I'd say the media concentration is much more alarming than anything going on at the grocery store.
                    Clear channel and one other company own almost all the radio stations. Could the FCC reverse this trend?

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                    • #11
                      Re: media concentration

                      Originally posted by Polish_Silver View Post
                      I'd say the media concentration is much more alarming than anything going on at the grocery store.
                      Clear channel and one other company own almost all the radio stations. Could the FCC reverse this trend?
                      They have the legal authority to reverse the trend, but big money seems to always get what it wants.
                      In general, I would love to see a revival of the Sherman Anti Trust Act to break up overly concentrated companies.
                      That law is still on the books; we have just chosen to ignore it.

                      Our iTuliper Flintlock's avatar is a character from the dystopian movie Idiocracy (Flintlock's avatar is future US president Comacho)
                      In that dystopia corporate consolidation has run full course, with Costco one of the megacorps that run everything from retail to universities.
                      Here's a super-fan summary that gives you the flavor of the movie. http://www.11points.com/Movies/11_Hi...s_in_Idiocracy

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                        Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
                        They have the legal authority to reverse the trend, but big money seems to always get what it wants.
                        In general, I would love to see a revival of the Sherman Anti Trust Act to break up overly concentrated companies.
                        That law is still on the books; we have just chosen to ignore it.

                        Our iTuliper Flintlock's avatar is a character from the dystopian movie Idiocracy (Flintlock's avatar is future US president Comacho)
                        In that dystopia corporate consolidation has run full course, with Costco one of the megacorps that run everything from retail to universities.
                        Here's a super-fan summary that gives you the flavor of the movie. http://www.11points.com/Movies/11_Hi...s_in_Idiocracy
                        "Welcome to Costco, I love you". Nothing in that movie made me laugh more than that one line. Anyone who has ever been met by a unenthused "greeter" at places like Walmart will get it.

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                          Originally posted by flintlock View Post
                          "Welcome to Costco, I love you". Nothing in that movie made me laugh more than that one line. Anyone who has ever been met by a unenthused "greeter" at places like Walmart will get it.
                          "The human population are morbidly stupid, speak a degenerate form of English and are profoundly anti-intellectual."

                          Never saw it, but the future sounds like a neocon dreamland. Or South Carolina as of 5 minutes ago.

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                          • #14
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                            Don't read my post, because it is so far afield from what people are able to see that it might as well be an undecodeable message.

                            It's business that really rules us now

                            It's the reason for the collapse of democratic choice
                            . It's the source of our growing disillusionment with politics. It's the great unmentionable. Corporate power. The media will scarcely whisper its name. It is howlingly absent from parliamentary debates. Until we name it and confront it, politics is a waste of time.
                            Business is just a tool. It's not the source, it is merely the current means.

                            Ultimately, all major institutions will dissolve. We're moving into a non-hierarchical society where human + technology form a system of circular feedback which creates its own predictable behaviors and limits. In an ironic twist, it will be humanity's own social interactions that drive the system and facilitate its control. But thhe tech driven system will operate at speeds and possess the necessary dexterity such that common man will never be in a position to lead change, and humanity will exhaust itself in any effort to keep pace.

                            Ludwig Wittgenstein tells us in his Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus ("Logical-Philosophical Treatise") that we never see beyond our seeing: that is, what we see is what we see, not necessarily what is; and that what is behind what we see we cannot know.

                            Anyway, all of the gov't "stupidity" is either real and deliberate, or falsified by the media in order to destablize public confidence in the existing system so that its dismantling is supported. Politicians are dinosaurs, and the mob will be the primary tool for policy. Not much different than what we've been living in already, just with all the layers of show business removed.
                            Last edited by reggie; November 15, 2013, 11:49 PM.
                            The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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                              Zombie Politics and Casino Capitalism

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