NRA joins ACLU lawsuit, claims NSA starting 'gun registry'

[Woodsman]

I've been wondering when the GOP would make the gambit of offering itself as the "privacy" party. It's absurd, really, but remember that we're talking electoral politics here.

I had thought the gun rights issue would offer itself as a logical template on how to approach this without triggering gales of incredulous laughter. Lo an behold, the NRA is joining with ACLU in a lawsuit attempting to end the government's massive phone record collection program.

Next up, GOP candidates beholding to NRA line up in support.

NRA joins ACLU lawsuit, claims NSA starting 'gun registry'

By Brendan Sasso - 09/04/13 06:23 PM ET

The National Rifle Association joined the American Civil Liberties Union's lawsuit on Wednesday to end the government's massive phone record collection program.
In a brief filed in federal court, the NRA argues that the National Security Agency's database of phone records amounts to a "national gun registry."

"It would be absurd to think that the Congress would adopt and maintain a web of statutes intended to protect against the creation of a national gun registry, while simultaneously authorizing the FBI and the NSA to gather records that could effectively create just such a registry," the group writes.

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...a-gun-database

[vinoveri]

Re: NRA joins ACLU lawsuit, claims NSA starting 'gun registry'

you can't fool all the people all the time .... turnkey tyranny makes strange bedfellows - recall Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul teaming up against TARP, bailouts etc

[Woodsman]

Re: NRA joins ACLU lawsuit, claims NSA starting 'gun registry'

"you can't fool all the people all the time"

Sure you can. Most of them, anyway. "Fool 'em" is the governing principle of our political economy. Our most important currency isn't the USD or gold, it's the lie. Almost every act of state (and its favored enterprises) is founded on deception. But I digress.

I have zero expectations any of this will make the slightest bit of difference to the outcome. It's just a hoot to see "liberals" howling for war and "conservatives" gunning for peace.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...conservatives/

[c1ue]

Re: NRA joins ACLU lawsuit, claims NSA starting 'gun registry'

Well, there is this theory that have to be started by Democrats - because they're perceived as being peace mongers.

Under this view, privacy protection by Republicans isn't such a stretch. Democrats are the party of 'big government', after all.

[Forrest]

Re: NRA joins ACLU lawsuit, claims NSA starting 'gun registry'

Well, there is this theory that have to be started by Democrats - because they're perceived as being peace mongers.

Under this view, privacy protection by Republicans isn't such a stretch. Democrats are the party of 'big government', after all.

Actually, it is more a Libertarian view to limit the reach of government. Republicans are just as happy to run other people's lives as Democrats are...they are just not vocal about it. Just think of all the morality laws Republican's have pushed for in the past. And Democrats were the ones who pushed for Abortion rights under Privacy Laws, so they are being a tad hypocritical under their Nanny State ideal.

Fortunately, there are fiscal conservatives in all parties who simply don't want to waste the money on more government, as it interferes with business, just as there are gun-toting Democrats, and the odd against-all-weapons Republican (although they are rare). Not being in a party, I would vote in this common sensable way.

Unfortunately, the non-fiscally conservative people are in charge, and are happy to have the NSA protect us to death. Which means they want to fingerprint us when we buy bullets so that they will know what guns we have, the better to confiscate them. California already has this bill waiting for the Governor's signature as we speak, and we don't know if he's really wacko enough to sign it...yet.

So get your ammunition with cash while you can...limitations will continue under the current regime, and once laws are passed, they are damnably hard to un-pass.

[c1ue]

Re: NRA joins ACLU lawsuit, claims NSA starting 'gun registry'

Actually, it is more a Libertarian view to limit the reach of government.

Under the above theory - it isn't what any given party is known to be for.

It is that the party that is known to be against would be the one that can politically get away with a particular form of unpopular action. Hence Democrats and war.